Euro Cult Movie Forum => Exploitation, Sexploitation, War & Espionage, Dodgy Rip-Offs => Topic started by: Jonny on 04 Dec 2007 - 20:26

Title: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 04 Dec 2007 - 20:26
Does anyone, apart from Gialloboy have any VHS original tapes of this film?

I know that Gialloboy has three official VHS copies of this film. A couple of German releases and a Spanish release...

Love this film, not read much about it though and promotional materials are hard to find..

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f22/lovelockandload/SeducersPhotoNovel.jpg)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f22/lovelockandload/SeducersPhotoNovel2.jpg)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f22/lovelockandload/SeducersPhotoNovel3.jpg)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f22/lovelockandload/SeducersPhotoNovel4.jpg)

I spent a tonne of money to snag this poster... Never seen one before, infact never seen a poster for this film at all ever!  Had to have it.

(http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/9716/theseducersoz7.jpg)
Title: Re: Top Sensation/The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 04 Dec 2007 - 20:40
I'll scan and post better pictures of the American poster in due course. Anyone got any info on any European releases?
Title: Re: Top Sensation/The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 04 Dec 2007 - 20:42
Anyone know Gialloboys web address? I'm sure I've seen his website, where he displays cover shots of his collection...
Title: Re: Top Sensation/The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: R-T-C Tim on 07 Dec 2007 - 18:30
Sorry, don't know anything about it - but from seeing the stills, I want to see this film more than any other.... ever!
Title: Re: Top Sensation/The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Kevin Coed on 07 Dec 2007 - 19:02
Anyone know Gialloboys web address? I'm sure I've seen his website, where he displays cover shots of his collection...

Has he got a website? The only place I've seen him display photos of his collection is on some German(?) forum. There's a link to it in a thread somewhere on the pre-cert forum. I'd find it there for you but.......
Title: Re: Top Sensation/The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 07 Dec 2007 - 19:13
Yeah, it's a forum now you mention it. I'll have a look over at pre-cert and find it.
Title: Re: Top Sensation/The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: magnus on 07 Dec 2007 - 19:20
here you are;
http://www.skrackfilm.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7548&highlight= (http://www.skrackfilm.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7548&highlight=)
this is insane and quite beautiful.
Title: Re: Top Sensation/The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Kevin Coed on 07 Dec 2007 - 19:22
You'd think he'd at least iron his sheets before taking the pictures.
Title: Re: Top Sensation/The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 07 Dec 2007 - 19:31
Thanks for the link magnus  :P

I couldn't find it over at pre-cert, the one he used to use has seemingly shut down.

Here's his 3 VHS releases of 'Top Sensation'. I'd love to know what the picture quality is like on these tapes...

(http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/8010/topsensatioql1.jpg)
Title: Re: Top Sensation/The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: JoseADiego on 08 Dec 2007 - 16:21

Hi Jonny....

Their desires are completed   ;)....Some captures of one of my copies,......I have it in Spanish and the other one not you in that language has it...

(http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/9826/dibujo4fl8.jpg)

(http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/8813/dibujorb6.jpg)

(http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/5170/dibujo2ae5.jpg)

(http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/5500/dibujo3rc3.jpg)

(http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/3231/dibujo5rg0.jpg)


WEB

http://psychotronickultvideo.blogspot.com/

SALE VIDEOS

http://videoguia.spaces.live.com/
Title: Re: Top Sensation/The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 08 Dec 2007 - 16:23
I love this forum  8)

Those grabs look great Jose! Much more colourful than the version I have.

You have a PM sir!
Title: Re: Top Sensation/The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Johan Melle on 08 Dec 2007 - 16:57
Wow! That looks great! certainly a huge improvement on the washed-out, colorless print most of us are used to seeing!
Title: Re: Top Sensation/The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 08 Dec 2007 - 17:48
Quick comparison between the Spanish VHS version and the release available in English from various sources in the USA...

Spanish
(http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/8813/dibujorb6.jpg)

USA/English dub
(http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9748/pdvd001ve2.png)


Spanish
(http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/5500/dibujo3rc3.jpg)

USA/English dub
(http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/2512/pdvd000ud2.png)

Is it just me or does the USA/English dubbed version look a bit squished when compared to the Spanish VHS grabs?
Title: Re: Top Sensation/The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: JoseADiego on 09 Dec 2007 - 07:22
Buffff !!!!!!!!!!....The differences are overwhelming !!!!!!!!!!!!!!   ???


The other version that I have is in English " The Seducers " ....I suppose that it will be his Jonny...

I have checked the duration

THE SEDUCERS ( 1:23,11)
TOP SENSATION (Spanish)  (1:28,37)

But in the Spanish version this censored that of the goat   :-[  !!!!!!!!!

 ::)


WEB

http://psychotronickultvideo.blogspot.com/

SALE VIDEOS

http://videoguia.spaces.live.com/
Title: Re: Top Sensation/The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: vigilanteforce on 09 Dec 2007 - 10:48
There was a composite print made by somebody on another forum. I just can't remember more details about it, sorry...
Title: Re: Top Sensation/The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 11 Dec 2007 - 10:42
Spanish VHS sleeve (thanks Jose!)

(http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/8711/topsentationrv7.jpg)
Title: Re: Top Sensation/The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Stephen Grimes on 07 Mar 2008 - 15:56

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frQfSfCQwLI
Title: Re: Top Sensation/The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 07 Mar 2008 - 16:19
Those clips look similar in quality to the Spanish VHS, can't really say for sure due to the YouTube compression. The first clip is missing the shots of Edwige topless though which probably means all the nudity is missing from that version.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Luca Canali on 15 Apr 2008 - 00:14
I've been playing around with an MPEG editing suite recently and for my first project I thought I'd attempt my own composite uncut 'Top Sensation' using the English 'Seducers' print and the Spanish and Italian versions.

Basically the crunch is, doing a decent composite of this is almost impossible as I have discovered that 'The Seducers' and 'Top Sensation' have totally different scenes shot for them. Like when the Spanish would shoot alternate clothed scenes, it's the same case here.
The Spanish & Italian versions show Rosalba Neri in a red shiny g-string when her and Edwige are teasing the peeing tom - wheres the 'Seducers' print shows Rosalba Neri naked throughout the whole scene. The infamous Goat Scene is only in the dub but then the Spanish print has loads of additional dialogue scenes that the 'Seducers' print doesn't have.

Don't get me started on the 3 way lesbian scene! This has been reshot with stronger footage for 'The Seducers' print but the Spanish actually shows some nice sensual shots missing from all the others. (By the way the soundtrack is superb in the English version throughout this scene but in the Spanish some horrible cod-desert island-reggae beat is used..).

In summary the Italian print is worthless with all nudity removed (though it is a very good print), the Spanish print has the best colors and is the longest print but is a 'softer' version nudity wise. 'The Seducers' is the 'hard' version but is missing dialogue scenes and some alternate nude shots that the Spanish print has.

If this does ever get a release, the way forward would definitely have to be a 2 disc edition with the longer clothed edit and harder 'Seducers' print on the second disc.

Because of the difference in quality of the prints, the scenes that I've edited in look a bit crap and the effect is fairly jarring. I've used the Spanish as the master and plan to sub it (with the 'harder' scenes spliced in in English), so if anyone wants a copy of my cobbled together mish mash, then do let me know!!
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Stephen Grimes on 15 Apr 2008 - 00:23
In summary the Italian print is worthless with all nudity removed (though it is a very good print)
Is this from the Italian tv broadcast on Rete 4 Luca?Was due to get a copy of this soon but might not bother now.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Luca Canali on 15 Apr 2008 - 08:17
Hi Stephen,

I'll check when I get back home tonight mate. From what I remember, the Italian print I have has no on screen logo but I'll double check and get back to you. I was hoping to use the Italian print to splice some scenes back in but it's missing at least 10 minutes, clocking in at a paltry 81 minutes! The only advantage of having the Italian print is for the scenes inside the boat which are quite dark on the other prints - on the Italian the scenes are lighter in contrast with more natural colours. What I'd really like to know is how complete the German print is?
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Luca Canali on 15 Apr 2008 - 18:09
Quick update. The Italian print I have doesn't bear any on screen TV channel logo and is of average/good quality.
Here's a screen shot:
(http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/2262/pdvd015aw6.jpg)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Stephen Grimes on 15 Apr 2008 - 18:19
Thanks Luca,i'll take a chance and get a copy of the Rete 4 broadcast just incase it is any different.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 15 Apr 2008 - 18:33
Cheers for the detailed info Luca! I had a feeling that editing together a definitive version would be a nightmare.

Like you mentioned it'd be great to know what the German VHS print consists of. Someone should give Gialloboy a nudge and see if he can shed any light on it.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Luca Canali on 15 Apr 2008 - 19:37
No problem guys.
I'd hazard a guess that the German version would be the 'nude' print but I'm sure it would be missing a few scenes here and there too. Ideally, I'd love to see an Italian print without the sex scenes edited out, so Stephen if you do manage to get hold of the Rete 4 print, please do let me know of the runing time. Cheers!
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Stephen Grimes on 15 Apr 2008 - 19:43
Ideally, I'd love to see an Italian print without the sex scenes edited out, so Stephen if you do manage to get hold of the Rete 4 print, please do let me know of the runing time. Cheers!
No problem,should have it in 2/3 weeks and i'll post some details about it here.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 02 May 2008 - 19:39
So how much do you reckon this will end up going for?

[ebay]250243206706[/ebay]

It's already up to 152 Euros and it's got 3 more days on it.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Luca Canali on 02 May 2008 - 22:04
Well...I never thought I'd ever see that Spanish tape on eBay...shame it's cut eh?!  ???
I'd even consider throwing my hat in the ring if I had a little extra cash...
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: mondomedia on 10 May 2008 - 11:05
Hi.

I just found about this GREAT forum, so I thought about shedding some light on the German release of TOP SENSATION:

In 1971 TOP SENSATION was released to German cinemas by FAVORIT-FILM as SKLAVIN IHRER TRIEBE with a length of 2717m. The both Video releases (I actually owned both of them) both featured the same cut of the old German cinema release - everything´s there including the infamous goat-scene. Here are some lobbies of my archive (please not the misspelling of the title: "Sklaven" instead of "Sklavin"):

(http://www.mondomedia.at/pics/auctions/diverses/sklaven01.jpg)

The interesting thing about the German release is the fact, that they recut the movie and added some new scenes (with completely different actors) to further enhance the "crime-aspect" of the film. Here are two lobbies that actually feature two scenes of the added material:

(http://www.mondomedia.at/pics/auctions/diverses/sklaven02.jpg)

If you need any further information. I´ll gladly help you out.


mondomedia
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 10 May 2008 - 11:16
Wow! I love those lobby cards!  8)

Thanks for finally shedding some light on the German version, looks like the German VHS releases are the ones to track down.

Welcome to the forum mondomedia! Great to have you on the forum! I think I bought a set of 'Live Like A Cop, Die Like A Man' lobby cards off you a while back on eBay...  :P
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Luca Canali on 12 May 2008 - 23:03
Fantastic lobbys MondoMedia!

Another quick question re: the German tape. In the German print, are the sex scenes "clothed" like the Spanish and Italian prints or does it feature full nudity as per the Seducers English dub print?
If it does feature all the nudity, this would be great to use as the main master for a Top Sensation 'project' and it could be dubbed with the english track (which features superior music to the Spanish & Italian prints). The problem is...I've never seen the German tape for sale anywhere!
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: mondomedia on 17 May 2008 - 14:36
well, as far as I can remember, it´s the full-nudity-print - but I gotta confess that it´s more than 15 years since the last time I watched this tape and as I´ve already sold both German tapes I owned, I can´t check  for 100% proof!

anyway, I can confirm that the German tapes are VERY hard to find - it took me years to finally get them and have never seen one on ebay!

mondomedia
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: drmiaow on 27 Jul 2008 - 10:47
I watched a composite of this last night for the first time. I don't know who put it together, but maybe it's the version that was mentioned earlier in this thread. I enjoyed it a lot but can anyone tell me what the son is saying in Italian over and over at the very end of the film? And what is the - it looks like - Biblical quotation that closes the film?
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 27 Jul 2008 - 11:36
I watched a composite of this last night for the first time. I don't know who put it together, but maybe it's the version that was mentioned earlier in this thread.

I'm pretty sure it was Luca Canali who did the composite.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Luca Canali on 27 Jul 2008 - 22:09
Yes, that sounds as if that's my shoddy little composite that you have there DrMiaow!  :D
I was actually playing around with some editing software for the first time so it's not a great job and has an extremely patchwork feel, but what it is good for is to see the many differences existing in the various prints.
I tacked on the Italian scene at the end which wasn't present in any of the other prints. It fits really well in my opinion. He is saying "I hate them, I hate them".
Can't see how they'd get around a DVD release of this seeing as there are so many different edits and completely re-shot scenes. I think if I had the choice, I'd rather have the shorter Seducers print as it contains nudity, goat scene and a much better soundtrack than the other prints.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 28 Jul 2008 - 00:07

([url]http://www.mondomedia.at/pics/auctions/diverses/sklaven02.jpg[/url])

whose that?

Jesus?  ;)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: mondomedia on 28 Jul 2008 - 07:24
these two lobbies show 2 of the scenes (unknown German actors), the German release-company added...

mondomedia
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: MarcMorris on 28 Jul 2008 - 09:23
I wonder which sales company handles the rights for this one?
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: drmiaow on 28 Jul 2008 - 09:28

Quote
Yes, that sounds as if that's my shoddy little composite that you have there DrMiaow!


You're too modest Luca. I think you did a great job with what you had to work with :-)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 28 Jul 2008 - 09:35
I wonder which sales company handles the rights for this one?

The original Italian distributor was CINERIZ, if that's any help at all.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Luca Canali on 28 Jul 2008 - 12:04

Quote
Yes, that sounds as if that's my shoddy little composite that you have there DrMiaow!


You're too modest Luca. I think you did a great job with what you had to work with :-)

That's very kind mate, thank you.  :P
I just wish there wasn't such a difference in quality between those prints, otherwise, it would have fit together quite smoothly.
But yeah, it goes withoput saying that someone needs to track down the rights to the Seducers print and sort out a release for this - every other Edwige film has one!.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: MarcMorris on 28 Jul 2008 - 12:38
Quote
The original Italian distributor was CINERIZ, if that's any help at all.

Sadly  not - the Cineriz titles are now all over the place as far as sales companies go. I can't find Top Sensation listed with any sales company in Italy.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 07 Nov 2008 - 11:17
3 more fotobuste arrived this morning, that makes 5 altogether now...

Just added them to the gallery (http://www.lovelockandload.net/forum/index.php?action=gallery).

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f22/lovelockandload/Top%20Sensation/1_07_11_08_1_06_27.jpg)
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f22/lovelockandload/Top%20Sensation/1_07_11_08_1_07_49.jpg)
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f22/lovelockandload/Top%20Sensation/1_07_11_08_1_08_45.jpg)
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f22/lovelockandload/Top%20Sensation/TopSensation.jpg)
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f22/lovelockandload/Top%20Sensation/TopSensation2.jpg)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Stephen Grimes on 07 Nov 2008 - 11:56
Very nice,won't be long before you have a full set.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Canisius on 26 Nov 2008 - 19:02
Just discovered this thread and thought about sharing a pic of my copy (the box looks a bit shabby):

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d199/KillingAddiction/DSCF0315.jpg)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: MarcMorris on 26 Nov 2008 - 22:02
I hoped you'd have it - any chance of a DVD-R?   ::)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 27 Nov 2008 - 09:14
Amazing!  ;)

What's the print like on this VHS release?
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Canisius on 27 Nov 2008 - 16:47
Glad that you guys dig it :'(

The picture quality is ok (no drop-outs, just one small streak at the top of the picture) considering the fact that the tape is definitely in its mid-twenties, my only complaint >:( is the sound which is in fact very quiet, so you have to turn up the volume big time!
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Canisius on 27 Nov 2008 - 16:57
I hoped you'd have it - any chance of a DVD-R?   ::)

Check your PM
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: JoseADiego on 28 Nov 2008 - 12:48
Just discovered this thread and thought about sharing a pic of my copy (the box looks a bit shabby):

([url]http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d199/KillingAddiction/DSCF0315.jpg[/url])


 OHHHH Canisius !!!!!!!!!!!!......Beautiful edition  ;)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 08 Dec 2008 - 09:49
Time for a screen grab comparison of the 3 versions available on VHS - The Something Weird (USA), Spanish and German...

On quick inspection the USA version is the only version so far to feature all the nudity, Rosalba is wearing bikini bottoms in the Spanish and German versions but is without them in the USA one. Also a shot of the two girls rubbing sun lotion onto each other and touching breasts is presented in a cropped close up shot in the European versions...

German and USA version have the full goat scene, the Spanish tape cuts the scene short.

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f22/lovelockandload/Top%20Sensation/USA1.jpg)
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f22/lovelockandload/Top%20Sensation/German1.jpg)
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f22/lovelockandload/Top%20Sensation/Spanish1.jpg)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f22/lovelockandload/Top%20Sensation/USA2.jpg)
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f22/lovelockandload/Top%20Sensation/German2.jpg)
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f22/lovelockandload/Top%20Sensation/Spanish2.jpg)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f22/lovelockandload/Top%20Sensation/USA3.jpg)
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f22/lovelockandload/Top%20Sensation/German3.jpg)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: JoseADiego on 08 Dec 2008 - 10:09


Beautiful work Jonny  ;)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: MarcMorris on 08 Dec 2008 - 11:34
Does anybody have an original VHS of the Something Weird tape?
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Funktion on 08 Dec 2008 - 15:14
It depresses me everytime I check this topic, it just reminds me how we are yet to have a dvd release of this film.
If there's a film that deserves a remastered Blu-Ray release right away is this one. Just for the eye candy...  ;D

On a side note, looking at the last screencaps posted, it's clear even with the added bikini Rosalba was smoking hot!  8)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Canisius on 08 Dec 2008 - 17:36
Nice shots Jonny... :)

But the versions seem to differ a lot comparing the duration of the three:

THE SEDUCERS ( 1:23,11) NTSC
TOP SENSATION (Spanish)  (1:28,37) PAL?
SKLAVEN IHRER TRIEBE (about 1: 16 PAL, too lazy to check it)

I expect more nudity/sleaze in the spanish one of course! :-*
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Bogan The Wanderer on 10 Dec 2008 - 04:20
Someone should do a composite print, using the Spanish edition where possible for print quality, the nudity from the USA copy as inserts, English dub over the top, and 'clothed' Spanish shots (still hot) as bonus footage.  Just a thought!   :'(
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: MarcMorris on 10 Dec 2008 - 10:09
I emailed Something Weird the other day and asked them why they deleted it - the guy said he didn't know. I was hoping he'd say "because the rights owner asked us to remove it from sale". At least then i'd have a lead as to who owns it!
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 10 Dec 2008 - 10:22
I notice that on the SWV trailer compilation TWISTED SEX vol. 15 (http://www.somethingweird.com/cart.php?target=product&product_id=23208&substring=the+seducers) there's a trailer for THE SEDUCERS.

Does anyone have this compilation and can tell us whether it's the Ottavio Alessi film or the 1962 American film of the same name directed by Graeme Ferguson?
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: MarcMorris on 10 Dec 2008 - 10:25
I've got it - sadly it's directed by Graeme Ferguson, 1962.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: sadistik1 on 11 Dec 2008 - 16:31
I remember seeing The Seducers in the Something Weird catalogue back in 91-92, it had a picture of a woman holding a phone on the cover with a big blog saying how she had been kidnapped and abused and was desperately ringing for help. Nice, but I think SWV created it. 
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: MarcMorris on 11 Dec 2008 - 17:17
I've got just about all their catalogues here. It was #4809 in their "under construction 2000" catalogue.


Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Luca Canali on 13 Dec 2008 - 21:38
Someone should do a composite print, using the Spanish edition where possible for print quality, the nudity from the USA copy as inserts, English dub over the top, and 'clothed' Spanish shots (still hot) as bonus footage.  Just a thought!   :'(

I did actually do this a while back. I used the Spanish and spliced in the nudity from the US tape, plus a brief scene at the end only present in the Italian print. I did initially intend to subtitle it with the help of a Spanish speaking friend but to be honest it would work better with the US dub with just the extra Spanish dialogue scenes subbed. The US version also features a superior soundtrack over the other prints. I think I sent a copy of my dodgy composite to one or two people on this forum a long time back, so if anyone feels like dubbing it, please be my guest.  :P
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: ecc on 13 Dec 2008 - 22:13
One of those shady DVD outfits called Synergy put out a disc called THE SEDUCERS.  The cover looks like the Alessi film (the JPEG file is small so I can't read the credits but I think it says "Jerry Gross presents".
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51PUIkZ09OL._SS500_.jpg)

On the other hand, the credits at Amazon suggest its a retitling of DEATH GAME with Sandra Locke so I'm not sure which is correct.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 14 Dec 2008 - 11:11
One of those shady DVD outfits called Synergy put out a disc called THE SEDUCERS.  The cover looks like the Alessi film (the JPEG file is small so I can't read the credits but I think it says "Jerry Gross presents".
([url]http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51PUIkZ09OL._SS500_.jpg[/url])

On the other hand, the credits at Amazon suggest its a retitling of DEATH GAME with Sandra Locke so I'm not sure which is correct.


Yeah, that's the US one sheet for the Alessi film, I posted a larger image of it at the start of this thread...

(http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/9716/theseducersoz7.jpg)

I bought it off eBay last December and it still hasn't turned up.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: vigilanteforce on 14 Dec 2008 - 16:01
So its finally out on DVD? I am not expecting great quality but at least hoping its uncut.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Kevin Coed on 14 Dec 2008 - 16:38


I bought it off eBay last December and it still hasn't turned up.

What is the status of that now?
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 14 Dec 2008 - 17:57
So its finally out on DVD? I am not expecting great quality but at least hoping its uncut.
No mate it's a bootleg of the something weird vhs.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: MarcMorris on 14 Dec 2008 - 18:02
Does anybody have the DVD? Judging by the credits it may well be the 1976 Peter S. Traynor film (aka Death Game).
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Luca Canali on 15 Dec 2008 - 09:41
It's possible that Amazon may have used the poster image in error. I've seen them (and IMDB) make that mistake a load of times. It's more likely to be Death Game but with the Seducers image...I hope I'm wrong though!
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: vigilanteforce on 15 Dec 2008 - 09:44
This film needs the Severin treatment. I am sure they have made their efforts already.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 15 Dec 2008 - 09:47
Just to clear something up about the Synergy 'DVD'...

Mike Malloy posted about one of their releases in another thread - LINK HERE (http://www.lovelockandload.net/forum/index.php?topic=1216.msg41177#msg41177)

Apparently their discs are DVD-R's so I'd steer well clear.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 15 Dec 2008 - 12:00


I bought it off eBay last December and it still hasn't turned up.

What is the status of that now?

Still waiting for the USPS to process my claim.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: vigilanteforce on 15 Dec 2008 - 12:06
How could Amazon sell DVD-Rs? That's weird.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: MarcMorris on 15 Dec 2008 - 16:38
Anybody can set up an Amazon Advantage (http://advantage.amazon.com/gp/vendor/public/join-advantage-video) account and sell direct through amazon.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: sadistik1 on 19 Dec 2008 - 04:06
I've got just about all their catalogues here. It was #4809 in their "under construction 2000" catalogue.

If 2000 indicates the date of the catalogue then it is'nt the same one.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: ecc on 19 Dec 2008 - 04:51
I've got just about all their catalogues here. It was #4809 in their "under construction 2000" catalogue.

If 2000 indicates the date of the catalogue then it is'nt the same one.

I think you're describing a newspaper ad for the film.  There were a couple with different women from the film mentioning something about what happens to them in the film but that the title of the film is so unusual, the reader is directed to call their local theater (there is a blank spot for the telephone number) for the title.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 19 Dec 2008 - 09:53
Two Italian soggettone arrived this morning  :'(

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f22/lovelockandload/Top%20Sensation/TOPSOG1.jpg)
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f22/lovelockandload/Top%20Sensation/TOPSOG2.jpg)

Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Stephen Grimes on 19 Dec 2008 - 10:31
Superb,bet there's not many of these around now.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Mart85 on 19 Dec 2008 - 17:34
Nice find there Jonny!  :'(
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: sadistik1 on 20 Dec 2008 - 06:43
I've got just about all their catalogues here. It was #4809 in their "under construction 2000" catalogue.



If 2000 indicates the date of the catalogue then it is'nt the same one.

I think you're describing a newspaper ad for the film.  There were a couple with different women from the film mentioning something about what happens to them in the film but that the title of the film is so unusual, the reader is directed to call their local theater (there is a blank spot for the telephone number) for the title.
I think you're right about that and I think SWV used it for the cover because they could'nt find any original cinema artwork.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Luca Canali on 20 Dec 2008 - 09:42
Fantastic looking posters there Jonny - great find. The bottom one is superb!
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: ecc on 23 Dec 2008 - 01:19
This thread has gotten too long for me to go back and read at the moment so I don't know if it's been mentioned before but has anyone noticed that the Italian version credits Rosalba Neri as assistant director?  Was this considered a vehicle for her?  Although the opening credits list the actors in alphabetical order, Neri is the only one who gets a card to herself while the other cast members are paired on cards.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 24 Dec 2008 - 09:34
I never noticed this before Eric, good spot!

Looking in the Gremese Dizionario it does indeed list Rosalba as ass. re (assistente regista).

One can only wonder which scenes, if any, she helped direct!
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Canisius on 30 Dec 2008 - 21:26
Congrats Jonny! Awesome posters you got there! ;)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Gary B. on 19 Mar 2009 - 20:33
Original Italian locandina (Larger view in the gallery, and a bigger view on my blog):
(http://www.lovelockandload.net/forum/gallery/10_19_03_09_10_28_25.jpg)
 :-X
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 20 Mar 2009 - 07:51
Original Italian locandina (Larger view in the gallery, and a bigger view on my blog):
([url]http://www.lovelockandload.net/forum/gallery/10_19_03_09_10_28_25.jpg[/url])
 :-X



That's superb Gary! If you see another one please let me know  :P
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Canisius on 21 Mar 2009 - 16:05
And another "Top Sensation" locandina... ::) You know what: I wholeheartedly envy you guys!!! :D
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: babybreese on 23 Mar 2009 - 12:56
Super score and thanks for sharing the wealth.
The only thing better than these publicity materials would be the film itself on DVD!
Of all the films to be lost in legal limbo~
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: cocisse on 18 Mar 2010 - 14:03
Hi to everybody...Top sensation is a great movie one's of the first exploitation with sexy girls,but the usa version is not on the web?Is impossible to find...I want to see edwige and the goat...
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Luca Canali on 19 Mar 2010 - 06:42
Hi to everybody...Top sensation is a great movie one's of the first exploitation with sexy girls,but the usa version is not on the web?Is impossible to find...I want to see edwige and the goat...

A lot of people have this version to trade...or you could sign up to CG where there are a couple of versions.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: cocisse on 19 Mar 2010 - 12:57
ok thanks luca..
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: babybreese on 19 Mar 2010 - 20:31
(http://imgur.com/yYF6r.jpg)

Some goats have all the luck!
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: cocisse on 19 Mar 2010 - 20:53
mmmmmmmmmmhhhhhh  lucky goat but the usa movie is impossible to find...please....
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 19 Mar 2010 - 20:58
mmmmmmmmmmhhhhhh  lucky goat but the usa movie is impossible to find...please....

Who have you asked?

It's also available to buy from Luminous...
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: cocisse on 19 Mar 2010 - 23:01
luminous?and down on web?thanks..
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Luca Canali on 23 Mar 2010 - 17:49
luminous?and down on web?thanks..

Sent you a PM Cocisse.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: quidtum on 23 Mar 2010 - 21:03
I'd like to add that the soundtrack on vinyl was issued as the first side of a double bill

Sante Maria Romitelli - "Top sensation" OST CAM SAG 9013 (1969)

(http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/1102/topsensationcamsag9013xo4.gif)

Tracklist

1 Tema di sensation (titoli di testa)  2:43
2 Tema di Beba                             3:49
3 Aldo e Ulla                                 2:22
4 Paola e Mudy                             2:24
5 Beat del panfilo                          1:46
6 Incontro con Beba                      4:06
7 Sul ponte dello yacht                  1:51
8 Tony e Mudy                             3:29

the second side being the following one:

Giuseppe De Luca and Sante Maria Romitelli - "L'altra faccia del peccato" OST CAM SAG 9013 (1969)

(http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/9492/sagfacciagv9.gif)

So my question is: which is the relationship between these two movies?
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 24 Mar 2010 - 08:00
I'd like to add that the soundtrack on vinyl was issued as the first side of a double bill

Sante Maria Romitelli - "Top sensation" OST CAM SAG 9013 (1969)

([url]http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/1102/topsensationcamsag9013xo4.gif[/url])

Tracklist

1 Tema di sensation (titoli di testa)  2:43
2 Tema di Beba                             3:49
3 Aldo e Ulla                                 2:22
4 Paola e Mudy                             2:24
5 Beat del panfilo                          1:46
6 Incontro con Beba                      4:06
7 Sul ponte dello yacht                  1:51
8 Tony e Mudy                             3:29

the second side being the following one:

Giuseppe De Luca and Sante Maria Romitelli - "L'altra faccia del peccato" OST CAM SAG 9013 (1969)

([url]http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/9492/sagfacciagv9.gif[/url])

So my question is: which is the relationship between these two movies?


I don't suppose you know where I could get mp3's of this soundtrack do you quidtum?
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Stephen Grimes on 24 Mar 2010 - 09:54
So my question is: which is the relationship between these two movies?
Could it be Luciano Martino?
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: quidtum on 24 Mar 2010 - 12:08
Could it be Luciano Martino?
As a producer? He was much luckier than that infamous goat btw  :-\
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Stephen Grimes on 06 Jun 2010 - 21:28
Just recently missed out on this Italian cinema brochure which sold on Ebay for the grand sum of €20. ???

(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/2181/bq6hkpwkkgrhquokikeubes.jpg)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 07 Jun 2010 - 07:49
Just recently missed out on this Italian cinema brochure which sold on Ebay for the grand sum of €20. ???

([url]http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/2181/bq6hkpwkkgrhquokikeubes.jpg[/url])



That's nice! Would love one of those.  8)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: pricey on 16 Jul 2010 - 08:28
Anyone here reckon the makers of 'Donkey Punch' saw Top Sensation. It has a very similar plot - All set on a yacht, the murder is very similar etc etc.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Stephen Grimes on 16 Jul 2010 - 19:57
A few screenshots from the Italian edition shown on the Iris channel last year.Runtime is 1h 21m.

(http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/3047/8788803453.png) (http://img444.imageshack.us/i/8788803453.png/)

(http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/9069/8788803456.png) (http://img535.imageshack.us/i/8788803456.png/)

(http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/6546/top2vk.png) (http://img706.imageshack.us/i/top2vk.png/)

(http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/7049/87888034510.png) (http://img535.imageshack.us/i/87888034510.png/)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 17 Jul 2010 - 08:18
A few screenshots from the Italian edition shown on the Iris channel last year.Runtime is 1h 21m.

Looks nice doesn't it!
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: R-T-C Tim on 18 Jul 2010 - 08:09
No matter how much time I spend away from this forum, this thread is always at the top of its page.

Is it the most eagerly awaited film not to have a DVD release? Obviously there is a good looking print out there, someone must put this out at some point in the near future.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Funktion on 18 Jul 2010 - 18:40
Is it the most eagerly awaited film not to have a DVD release? Obviously there is a good looking print out there, someone must put this out at some point in the near future.
Forget DVD. This film MUST have a BD release! Is there anything more worthy of a High Definition transfer than Edwige and Rosalba sunbathing naked?  :-\
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Michael Blanton on 19 Jul 2010 - 15:17
Is it the most eagerly awaited film not to have a DVD release? Obviously there is a good looking print out there, someone must put this out at some point in the near future.
Forget DVD. This film MUST have a BD release! Is there anything more worthy of a High Definition transfer than Edwige and Rosalba sunbathing naked?  :-\

a 3D HD release.  8)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 19 Feb 2011 - 10:50
Aarron just pointed this out to me  :'(

REJECTED by the BBFC - Top Sensation 13/4/1970 (http://www.bbfc.co.uk/AFF060503)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Funktion on 19 Feb 2011 - 12:14
Aarron just pointed this out to me  :'(

REJECTED by the BBFC - Top Sensation 13/4/1970 ([url]http://www.bbfc.co.uk/AFF060503[/url])

It's official: Edwige and Rosalba are too hot for the BBFC...  ;D
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 03 May 2011 - 14:34
(http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/3774/seducers1969poster01.jpg)

HI-RES Click HERE (http://twitpic.com/4stoam)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: CameraObscura on 13 Apr 2012 - 15:02
We are proud to announce that we will release this rarest of the rarest tiles this year in a 2-disc special edition! More information soon at this spot.

(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/540090_354509041251349_113532752015647_878245_27227071_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 13 Apr 2012 - 15:05
We are proud to announce that we will release this rarest of the rarest tiles this year in a 2-disc special edition! More information soon at this spot.

([url]http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/540090_354509041251349_113532752015647_878245_27227071_n.jpg[/url])


Fantastic news!  :P
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: gaz1 on 13 Apr 2012 - 15:09
2 disc special as well  ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: bdc on 13 Apr 2012 - 15:21
Wow!  ;)  ::)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Ben Cobb on 13 Apr 2012 - 15:22
Incredible news!
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 13 Apr 2012 - 15:25
I've wanted to see this for ages, never got around to getting a DVD-R from anybody.

Really looking forward to this one.  ::)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: gnorthcott on 13 Apr 2012 - 15:37
Sweet,and we can all wear our tshirts while watching it   >:(
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Kevin Coed on 13 Apr 2012 - 15:56
Well stap me vitals. I didn't expect THAT.  ::)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: JoseADiego on 13 Apr 2012 - 15:58
CameraObscura  ;) ;) ;) :P :P :P
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Filmbar70 on 13 Apr 2012 - 16:02
Quite simply the best news I've heard, well, ever...
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Funktion on 13 Apr 2012 - 16:17
C'mon, Blu-Ray or bust.  ;D

I want to see Edwige and Rosalba making out in HD!
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Zarith on 13 Apr 2012 - 17:02
VIVA Camera Obscura !

I've never seen it, I was waiting for an official version. Thanks for working in it  ::)
Title: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Paul on 13 Apr 2012 - 17:38
Really great news. Wonderful!
Title: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: demented_uk on 13 Apr 2012 - 22:29
Awesome news. The best Euro-Cult DVD label without doubt.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: fenriz on 14 Apr 2012 - 12:57
That's just what i was thinking!!  :P

Camera = best label in the world!! and by far!  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Luca Canali on 14 Apr 2012 - 14:11
Most anticipated Euro DVD release ever?  And a 2 disc-er!

I'm guessing (and hoping) that disc one will be the uncut English language version and the second disc will be the alternate German version with the re-shot scenes with German actors?

Anyway...I'm all over this. BTW - Excellent cover art too guys.  ;)

Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Bogan The Wanderer on 14 Apr 2012 - 14:12
Absolutely brilliant news!   ::)  ::)  :P  ;)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jamie on 17 Apr 2012 - 07:15
Excellent cover art too guys.  ;)
Yeah, I love the cover. This is awesome news! You guys are to be commended for doing this.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: DjangoLi on 18 Apr 2012 - 15:39
Most anticipated Euro DVD release ever?  And a 2 disc-er!

I'm guessing (and hoping) that disc one will be the uncut English language version and the second disc will be the alternate German version with the re-shot scenes with German actors?

Anyway...I'm all over this. BTW - Excellent cover art too guys.  ;)

I was just reading about this on the Gentedirispetto forums:

From what I understood it's a 2 disc set - The first disc will contain the Italian version, remastered from the original negative, and the second disc will contain some sort of 'composite' from all the different releases of the export version...

However, according to Quidtum (edit: the Nocturno forums!) the Italian version had already passed through the censors hands at least three times before it was approved for release...  So there are two very distinct versions of 'Top Sensation', namely, the Italian version and the 'Export' version so there isn't really 'one' definitive version. It will be interesting to see how quality of the composite print fares, but there's no mention of it being remastered from the negative...

Either way, it's still going to be a million times better than all the copies that are floating around now...

I must confess I've always avoided this one simply because the only copies I've seen look like the original print had been thrown around in a sand storm and then placed back on the reels.

 ::)


(note to self: Reading the previous nine pages before posting might have been a good idea...)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: quidtum on 18 Apr 2012 - 16:47
To be honest and to give the proper credits, these info about the movie were actually gathered by A.N. and Alessio di Rocco, who had both probably access to the censorship documents
http://forum.nocturno.it/index.php?topic=214.msg6138#msg6138 (http://forum.nocturno.it/index.php?topic=214.msg6138#msg6138)
Moreover, at the end of that Nocturno thread, you can read that the Italian TV broadcasts, aired on our ex prime minister's TV channels, have more cuts than the print which was screened at the movie theathers in Italy.
http://forum.nocturno.it/index.php?topic=214.msg523192#msg523192 (http://forum.nocturno.it/index.php?topic=214.msg523192#msg523192)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: DjangoLi on 18 Apr 2012 - 18:03
Thanks Quidtum, I missed that link....

Wow! What can I say? Reading through that thread it gets even more confusing...

The story so far...

1) Film is made and submitted to Italian censors > Censors don't approve and it's cut.

2) This second version is the one that is released - So, I'm 'assuming' that's the version Camera Obscura are releasing...

3) The Spanish version is, from what I could gather, the 'first' version but with the 'goat scene' removed.

4) Mediaset in Italy screen an even more censored version on one of the Italian TV channels - but it includes footage at the end that neither of the two prints above have.

5) The 'export' version - alternate scenes, etc... Released on VHS by 'Something Weird' - incredibly worn master... I turned it off after five minutes.

6) Another 'export' version released in Germany - I could be wrong but I don't think it's identical to the 'Something Weird' tape... Luca mentioned something about this to me a while ago.

Erm...

Thoughts?

 ::)
Title: Re: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 18 Apr 2012 - 18:42
Thanks Quidtum, I missed that link....

Wow! What can I say? Reading through that thread it gets even more confusing...

The story so far...

1) Film is made and submitted to Italian censors > Censors don't like and it's cut.

2) This second version is the one that is released - So, I'm 'assuming' that's the version Camera Obscura are releasing...

3) The Spanish version is, from what I could gather, the 'first' version (i.e. it's uncut)

4) Mediaset in Italy screen an even more censored version on one of the Italian TV channels... This is the 'third' censored version. Hopefully we won't see that one again!

5) The 'export' version - alternate scenes, etc... Released on VHS by 'Something Weird' - incredibly worn master... I turned it off after five minutes.

6) Another 'export' version released in Germany - I could be wrong but I don't think it's identical to the 'Something Weird' tape... Luca mentioned something about this to me a while ago.

Erm...

Thoughts?

 ::)

I ran through the 'basic' differences between the US, German and Spanish versions earlier in the thread! I'm sure Sef can go into more detail as he put a composite together ages ago.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: DjangoLi on 18 Apr 2012 - 19:45
Cheers Jonny, I found Luca's post at the bottom of page 2... 

Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: quidtum on 18 Apr 2012 - 21:09
3) The Spanish version is, from what I could gather, the 'first' version (i.e. it's uncut)

Not exactly, the Malibu video Spanish release includes the twenty-one censored cuts from the Italian print but it's missing the goat scene and the final scene of the Italian TV print.
http://www.nocturno.it/news/eros-e-misteri-di-top-sensation (http://www.nocturno.it/news/eros-e-misteri-di-top-sensation)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: CameraObscura on 19 Apr 2012 - 07:35
Well, our plan right now is this: we will make a brand-new transfer from the original Italian negative. We can't tell as of now what scenes it will contain, but probably, if any cuts were made, this footage might also be still in the lab (which was the case with SO SWEET, SO DEAD). We will check this out and try to make the most complete cut out of what's there in terms of original elements. This will go on the first disc. The second disc will contain what we call the "Frankenstein Version" and will be bastard cut of all the scenes that can't be found in the Italian version with the Italian version as the basis since it will have the best quality, of course.

So far we could only locate VHS tapes of various other cuts. We would prefer to transfer 16 or 35mm prints of the other cuts but so far we couldn't dig up ANY. Not even the German version with the crazy additional footage filmed only for that release.

So if you are or know collectors, please help us out with any information you can provide. We try to make the best version possible out of what's more or less a lost film. It's our biggest endeavor so far, and we can use all the help we can get. This is a true fan project, and we already got a lot of help behind the scenes, especially from members of this forum. Thanks so much, guys!
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: CameraObscura on 19 Apr 2012 - 07:37
Oh, before I forget, the additional scenes can not only be viewed in the Frankenstein cut, but also separately in a deleted scenes section. So you won't have to see the movie all over again to watch that footage.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: CameraObscura on 19 Apr 2012 - 07:56
The first finished extra for THE SEDUCERS (TOP SENSATION) is an animated photo novel just like the one on our SO SWEET, SO DEAD disc.

(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/560731_359446187424301_113532752015647_887390_1371112303_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: quidtum on 19 Apr 2012 - 08:17
Sexually lovely extra  8)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 19 Apr 2012 - 09:23
The first finished extra for THE SEDUCERS (TOP SENSATION) is an animated photo novel just like the one on our SO SWEET, SO DEAD disc.

([url]http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/560731_359446187424301_113532752015647_887390_1371112303_n.jpg[/url])
::)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: DjangoLi on 19 Apr 2012 - 17:29
I could probably translate all the text in the photo novel if you want... shoot me a pm if you're interested. i doubt it would take very long and it looks like it would be quite easy to replace the text and make it look exactly the same.

As always, it's looking like a great release!
Title: Re: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 19 Apr 2012 - 17:50
I could probably translate all the text in the photo novel if you want... shoot me a pm if you're interested. i doubt it would take very long and it looks like it would be quite easy to replace the text and make it look exactly the same.


That's an awesome idea!
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: CameraObscura on 19 Apr 2012 - 20:57
Thanks so much for the offer, but it's already translated! Funny thing is, there are as many subtitles for the novel as there are for the average feature film.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Luca Canali on 29 Apr 2012 - 16:12
Well, our plan right now is this: we will make a brand-new transfer from the original Italian negative. We can't tell as of now what scenes it will contain, but probably, if any cuts were made, this footage might also be still in the lab. We will check this out and try to make the most complete cut out of what's there in terms of original elements. This will go on the first disc.

The Italian print is pretty much a "clothed" version of the film (same as the Spanish). One of the many differences between the Italian & Spanish versions compared to the stronger English dubbed version is that Edwige & Rosalba are wearing shiny red & black panties while sunbathing on the yacht. In the English dub, they are completely naked.
Just my opinion but I think that the majority of fans will want to see the 'harder' version of the film i.e. the stronger English export version retitled The Seducers (which of course also has the goat scene fully intact).
I should also note that the music in the English version during the 3-way lesbian scene is brilliant and is much more effective than the music in the Italian & Spanish versions. If there was any way that the English audio/soundtrack could be included (and resynched) this would be amazing.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: babybreese on 29 Apr 2012 - 16:44
The photo novel is a brillaint idea and very enticing.
Meanwhile, I am going to take up some religeon and start praying that cut trims are found in the lab ala SO SWEET....
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: ciavazzaro on 02 May 2012 - 19:04
The german version seems so rare to found ! what a pity !
But im sure it will be a great release,and i keep my finger crossed maybe for some interviews in the extras who knows ?
Title: Re: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 02 May 2012 - 19:29
The german version seems so rare to found ! what a pity !
But im sure it will be a great release,and i keep my finger crossed maybe for some interviews in the extras who knows ?

They have the German version!
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: ciavazzaro on 03 May 2012 - 13:27
Sorry but i don't understand so camera obscura actually have the alternate german version with new footage ?
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 03 May 2012 - 13:36
Sorry but i don't understand so camera obscura actually have the alternate german version with new footage ?

Yes, they have the German version. Plus the Spanish version and the Jerry Gross (US version) All of varying quality but they have them non the less.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: ciavazzaro on 03 May 2012 - 13:43
Oh thank you very much,this is absolutely a great news !!
OT my secret dream is one day camera obscura releasing una lucertola con la pelle di donna by fulci the italian uncut version ! (if interestend try to ask mediaset which do have in his archives the uncut version of the movie,from which they take the cut version that they show in television).
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: cocisse on 07 May 2012 - 22:43
Yeahhhhhhhhhh  thankkkksss so much..for this finally camera obscura release!
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: CameraObscura on 31 May 2012 - 09:03
The quiz for the next title will take place this Friday (tomorrow, that is) at 4 p.m. (CET) at our Facebook page...!
http://www.facebook.com/CameraObscuraFilmdistribution?ref=ts (http://www.facebook.com/CameraObscuraFilmdistribution?ref=ts)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: fenechguida on 31 May 2012 - 18:19
Hi, does anyone have contact info for camera obscura ? I have lots of posters, stills and the spanish VHS and one of the two VHS german releases. I have been collecting anything on this title for years. And about 15 different bootlegs from various sources.Please let me know.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Kevin Coed on 31 May 2012 - 18:21
They post here regularly, so I'm sure they'll see your post here. Either that or contact them via Facebook.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Gary B. on 31 May 2012 - 23:39
wow, great news!!!  I'm just now reading this over a month later...  I have the original Italian locandina for Top Sensation if any artwork is needed for the DVD.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: fenechguida on 01 Jun 2012 - 03:19
Hi camera Obscura. Please contact me, i have lots of print material - posters lobby card sets, stills etc that I would love to share on this movie to help with your dvd. and two VHS and 10 different bootleg versions that you will probably not need ! Bob ( bbettendorf@nyc.rr.com )
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: CameraObscura on 01 Jun 2012 - 10:14
@fenechguida: You got mail, sir!

@Gary B.: Thanks so much for your help, but we already have the locandina!

I really have to say, you guys absolutely rock. Thanks for all your help and support, it would be so much harder to do a release without you!

Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: cocisse on 16 Jun 2012 - 19:59
Anyway camera obscura when i will see  top sensation on your dvd?
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: CameraObscura on 22 Jun 2012 - 11:41
Our brand-new transfer is almost done, and we're waiting for it to arrive any day now.
Title: Re: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 22 Jun 2012 - 18:01
Our brand-new transfer is almost done, and we're waiting for it to arrive any day now.

Amazing! Can't wait to see some screen grabs!
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: cocisse on 27 Jun 2012 - 17:45
Pleaseeeeeeeeeeee camera obscura scannnnnn pleaseeeeeee i want to see alba and edwige nakeeeed!
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: CameraObscura on 10 Jul 2012 - 10:52
Well, it's tought than expected. More work has to be done on the transfer. Be patient, even though it's hard! :)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Paul on 10 Jul 2012 - 12:14
Well, it's tought than expected. More work has to be done on the transfer. Be patient, even though it's hard! :)

Ooh, Matron!

I can't wait for this release, either. Happy to wait for something good though  :-X
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 14 Aug 2012 - 07:43
Some caps from the Camera Obscura transfer just in... (only low res ones at the moment)


(http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/2368/sequence04.jpg)


(http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/1508/sequence10.jpg)


(http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/5535/sequence26.jpg)


(http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/193/sequence19.jpg)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: CameraObscura on 14 Aug 2012 - 08:02
There are many more, and some more explicit ones, in our Facebook album for the movie:

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.413483325353920.82259.113532752015647&type=3 (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.413483325353920.82259.113532752015647&type=3)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: bdc on 14 Aug 2012 - 19:24
I need this!  ::)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Luca Canali on 14 Aug 2012 - 20:04
Beautiful...  ;)

@ Camera Obscura - Are you able to confirm at this stage whether the goat scene is intact?
And forgive me if this has been asked 100 times elsewhere, but will you be including a lower quality "unclothed" version of the film i.e. the same content-wise as the US release?
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: CameraObscura on 15 Aug 2012 - 08:02
Yes, the goat scene is intact. We found it inside a small can in the lab and transferred it as well. It will be reinserted into the Italian cut.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: cocisse on 15 Aug 2012 - 16:28
Thanks a lot camera obscura this cap is so wonderful  as the c.o, release thankssssss!
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Funktion on 15 Aug 2012 - 16:56
Seeing how lovely these caps look is making me seriously depressed the film won't get a BD release...  :o

Isn't there any chance you may consider doing one, in case there's enough demand?
You could even try out, for example, a pre-order program of sorts for a possible BD release, like what was done with The Opening of Misty Beethoven, in which it would go into production if "x" amount is achieved.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: JAMIOUSE on 15 Aug 2012 - 18:14
How 'nasty' is the goat scene? I don't know much about Top Sensation.
Title: Re: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 15 Aug 2012 - 18:39
How 'nasty' is the goat scene? I don't know much about Top Sensation.

Not nasty at all. Edwige is having photos taken with a baby goat and at one point it goes between her legs and she starts giggling... It's all off camera and you make your own mind up as to what's going on.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Funktion on 15 Aug 2012 - 18:43
How 'nasty' is the goat scene? I don't know much about Top Sensation.
Pretty tame, really.
Oh, and if you're thinking it's a scene of violence against a poor goat, it is not. In fact, it's the opposite, since it was probably the luckiest goat to ever live: Edwige Fenech decides to use the lucky creature as a play mate...  ;D
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: JAMIOUSE on 15 Aug 2012 - 19:20
Ahh I see, I got the impression from IMDB and other sites it was another animal violence scene. Top Sensation is back on my list now!
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Luca Canali on 15 Aug 2012 - 21:33
Yes, the goat scene is intact. We found it inside a small can in the lab and transferred it as well. It will be reinserted into the Italian cut.

Brilliant - Thanks for confirming. Shaping up to be the release of the year!
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: CameraObscura on 16 Aug 2012 - 07:51
Right now, no Blu-ray release is planned. The market is just still too small for this extremely niche film. We will see what the future holds. One day a Blu-ray will come, I guess, but not in the near future. We still have to figure out how to incorporate Blu-rays into the IGCC without pissing off people who like their collection neat and pretty on their shelves (the way it should be  :-\).
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: djvaso on 16 Aug 2012 - 09:53
Right now, no Blu-ray release is planned. The market is just still too small for this extremely niche film. We will see what the future holds. One day a Blu-ray will come, I guess, but not in the near future. We still have to figure out how to incorporate Blu-rays into the IGCC without pissing off people who like their collection neat and pretty on their shelves (the way it should be  :-\).
I suppose that your transfers from film stock are in HD-D5 or similar future-proof format so that you can easily switch to Blu-ray. Also, I assume a Blu-ray disc could be housed in DVD digipack case with small logo such as StudioCanal for Vintage Classics or Raro Video use.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: CameraObscura on 17 Aug 2012 - 15:28
Yes, it's an HD-transfer. How the packaging might look like... well, I guess it should look exactly like the normal IGCC packaging. the question is if to release single blu-ray and DVD releases... No idea yet. It's a tough financial decision.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: bdc on 17 Aug 2012 - 19:33
I can imagine a bd being very expensive seeing that the dvd's already cost me 30 Euro (including shipping) so I'm content with a dvd personally.  :D
Title: Re: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 17 Aug 2012 - 20:09
I can imagine a bd being very expensive seeing that the dvd's already cost me 30 Euro (including shipping) so I'm content with a dvd personally.  :D

Same here, I'm very, very happy with a DVD of this. Never thought I'd see a DVD of this to be honest, let alone a special edition like this!
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Loukol on 24 Aug 2012 - 17:21
Where can the DVD be ordered?
Title: Re: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 24 Aug 2012 - 17:31
Where can the DVD be ordered?

It's not up for pre order just yet mate.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Loukol on 25 Aug 2012 - 00:32
Cheers!
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: babybreese on 09 Sep 2012 - 13:33
Pre Orders are up, with a Nov 30 street date.  This has turned into a heck of a year for releases, but this one has been a holy grail...cannot wait.
http://www.kultvideo.com/articles/ArticleSheet.aspx/aid13437aid-DVD-Top-Sensation-Special-Edition-2-DVD-30-11-From-30-November-2012?__langG=en-GB (http://www.kultvideo.com/articles/ArticleSheet.aspx/aid13437aid-DVD-Top-Sensation-Special-Edition-2-DVD-30-11-From-30-November-2012?__langG=en-GB)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Luca Canali on 09 Sep 2012 - 16:08
Pre Orders are up, with a Nov 30 street date.  This has turned into a heck of a year for releases, but this one has been a holy grail...cannot wait.
[url]http://www.kultvideo.com/articles/ArticleSheet.aspx/aid13437aid-DVD-Top-Sensation-Special-Edition-2-DVD-30-11-From-30-November-2012?__langG=en-GB[/url] ([url]http://www.kultvideo.com/articles/ArticleSheet.aspx/aid13437aid-DVD-Top-Sensation-Special-Edition-2-DVD-30-11-From-30-November-2012?__langG=en-GB[/url])


Cheers for the heads up! I was browsing the Kult Video site earlier today but missed this.

Agree - been a cracking year for releases so far with this, Un Bianco Vestito Per Mariale and Shoot First Die Later all still to come  ::)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: CameraObscura on 14 Sep 2012 - 08:41
The wonderful Rosalba Neri has given us an interview on TOP SENSATION!

(http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/c167.0.403.403/p403x403/527335_422688864433366_1739244365_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: CameraObscura on 14 Sep 2012 - 09:20
And now the uncropped version:

(http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/527335_422688864433366_1739244365_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: bdc on 14 Sep 2012 - 09:20
 ;) ::)
Title: Re: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 14 Sep 2012 - 10:12
The wonderful Rosalba Neri has given us an interview on TOP SENSATION!

([url]http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/c167.0.403.403/p403x403/527335_422688864433366_1739244365_n.jpg[/url])


Amazing news!
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: ciavazzaro on 14 Sep 2012 - 13:37
WOW my dear rosalba !!!
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: cocisse on 14 Sep 2012 - 19:19
Camera obscura you are an amazing hero of this site thankssssssssssssss!
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: babybreese on 14 Sep 2012 - 22:30
It's a longshot at this point, but if I ever reproduce, regardless of the gender, kid's getting named Camera Obscura :)   This is just such happy and joyous news.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: CameraObscura on 16 Sep 2012 - 11:05
Thanks, guys! We're so happy to hear that! :)

And here's one more newsflash: Another interview is in the can, and it's Salvatore Puntillo who plays Andro!

(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/538957_423299351038984_2029108832_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: ciavazzaro on 16 Sep 2012 - 19:27
Can't believe it !!! this is the dvd of the year !!!
Camera obscura is the best always !!!
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: babybreese on 17 Sep 2012 - 23:30
You guys keep upping the ante....love the way this is looking.
And I bet there is more Obscura to come.  As I don't see much Facebook I love that CO drops by here with nuggets of cyberjoy.  Where's Fenech? ( just teasing )
Is the goat still alive?
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: CameraObscura on 25 Nov 2012 - 19:24
Unfortunately all VHS rips floating around the internet don't look too nice and suffer from bad compression. So what we're looking for right now are original VHS tapes of the film.

Does anyone here own any? We've got the German tapes, but still need the Spanish and US ones. If you can help, please email us: info(at)obscurafilms.de

Thanks!
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Strigoyu on 17 Jan 2013 - 20:20
I've got the Spanish tape, do you still need a DVD transfer of it? All the best, CO mates!!!
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Old Geezer on 05 Mar 2013 - 18:18
So, no news since November of last year. Is this still happening or has it fallen through? I was really looking forward to seeing this.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Paul on 05 Mar 2013 - 19:10
I'd imagine its happening, there were delays on other CO tiles too but they're always worth the wait.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 05 Mar 2013 - 19:13
I'd imagine its happening, there were delays on other CO tiles too but they're always worth the wait.

Yeah and they've never pulled any release that they've announced yet as far as I know anyway
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 05 Mar 2013 - 20:42
Patience.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Gregory Giovanni Moore on 08 Mar 2013 - 19:17
Kultvideo lists this and *A White Dress for Mariale* as both due June 30 ... course that date has been pushed back at least twice on their site, so who really knows ... the quality of CO's previous releases have definitely made them worth the wait, even when they've been delayed. It'll be fantastic to finally be able to check these out when they hit.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: CameraObscura on 26 Mar 2013 - 23:27
We now have almost all ingredients we need for the disc, just one thing is missing: the US VHS tape. Does anybody own it or has at least a rip of it? thanks for your help!
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: cocisse on 08 Apr 2013 - 17:01
I have a collage of italian version and usa scene inside and the poor usa version ,if you want i'll pass you with skype..
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: fenriz on 11 Apr 2013 - 14:43
You should ask on the precert forum! What about gialloboy ?
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: CameraObscura on 17 Jun 2013 - 16:48
We actually have that collage version, but the sound is not really convincing.

Gialloboy doesn't own the tape :(
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: djvaso on 21 Jul 2013 - 20:34
Camera Obscura Facebook page:
Quote
At last! TOP SENSATION will be released September 6. It should be up for pre-order everywhere tomorrow. The first edition (including both cuts of the film (Italian original version and German version) and tons of bonus features) comes in a DigiPak packaging and is limited to 2.000 copies only!
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 21 Jul 2013 - 21:00
Camera Obscura Facebook page:
Quote
At last! TOP SENSATION will be released September 6. It should be up for pre-order everywhere tomorrow. The first edition (including both cuts of the film (Italian original version and German version) and tons of bonus features) comes in a DigiPak packaging and is limited to 2.000 copies only!

Cool! Can't wait for this one!
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 21 Jul 2013 - 21:11
Camera Obscura Facebook page:
Quote
At last! TOP SENSATION will be released September 6. It should be up for pre-order everywhere tomorrow. The first edition (including both cuts of the film (Italian original version and German version) and tons of bonus features) comes in a DigiPak packaging and is limited to 2.000 copies only!
::)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Nuno on 21 Jul 2013 - 21:37
Can't wait...
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Paul on 21 Jul 2013 - 21:53
Excellent.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 21 Jul 2013 - 22:15
Excellent.
I thought of Mr.Burns when I read that post  :-\
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: ciavazzaro on 22 Jul 2013 - 13:16
Can't wait for this,it looks wonderful,we will have all the versions of this movie,including the very rare german one.
But also stunning extras,this is definitely a great one !
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Luca Canali on 22 Jul 2013 - 18:00
Superb!


A question for Camera Obscura - is the "original Italian version" the clothed or nude print?


I have an Italian print and it's the clothed version. I'm still going to buy it regardless, but would be good to know what cut we're getting in advance. Only fully nude version I've seen out of the 4 versions is the US print.





Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 22 Jul 2013 - 18:37
Superb!


A question for Camera Obscura - is the "original Italian version" the clothed or nude print?


I have an Italian print and it's the clothed version. I'm still going to buy it regardless, but would be good to know what cut we're getting in advance. Only fully nude version I've seen out of the 4 versions is the US print.

I think it's been mentioned earlier in the thread that the Italian version is clothed. It does have the full goat scene though.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Luca Canali on 22 Jul 2013 - 18:51
Superb!


A question for Camera Obscura - is the "original Italian version" the clothed or nude print?


I have an Italian print and it's the clothed version. I'm still going to buy it regardless, but would be good to know what cut we're getting in advance. Only fully nude version I've seen out of the 4 versions is the US print.

I think it's been mentioned earlier in the thread that the Italian version is clothed. It does have the full goat scene though.



Pity, I thought that might be the case. Good thing I bagged a copy of the US tape recently then! (smug  :(  yes I know..)
The DVD is still pretty much release of the year anyhow and once again hats off to CO for all their efforts to get it released.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 22 Jul 2013 - 19:22

Pity, I thought that might be the case. Good thing I bagged a copy of the US tape recently then! (smug  :(  yes I know..)
The DVD is still pretty much release of the year anyhow and once again hats off to CO for all their efforts to get it released.

Did you get an original copy if the Something Weird VHS? They've been looking for someone with an original for ages now so they could do a hi res capture of it for the DVD!
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Luca Canali on 22 Jul 2013 - 19:25

Pity, I thought that might be the case. Good thing I bagged a copy of the US tape recently then! (smug  :(  yes I know..)
The DVD is still pretty much release of the year anyhow and once again hats off to CO for all their efforts to get it released.

Did you get an original copy if the Something Weird VHS? They've been looking for someone with an original for ages now so they could do a hi res capture of it for the DVD!


Yes, managed to get an original Something Weird tape. Unfortunately I can't copy NTSC tapes to DVD-R but I can provide a high res cover scan if it's not too late for inclusion in the DVD? (Assuming there's a photo gallery etc)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 22 Jul 2013 - 19:40

Yes, managed to get an original Something Weird tape. Unfortunately I can't copy NTSC tapes to DVD-R but I can provide a high res cover scan if it's not too late for inclusion in the DVD? (Assuming there's a photo gallery etc)

I meant a hi-res scan/copy of the film contained on the tape mate. They only have DVD-Rs to go off and wanted an actual copy of the original VHS from SW so they could capture it at the highest bit-rate.

I'm guessing it's too late now though!
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: MarcMorris on 23 Jul 2013 - 10:42

Pity, I thought that might be the case. Good thing I bagged a copy of the US tape recently then! (smug  :(  yes I know..)
The DVD is still pretty much release of the year anyhow and once again hats off to CO for all their efforts to get it released.

Did you get an original copy if the Something Weird VHS? They've been looking for someone with an original for ages now so they could do a hi res capture of it for the DVD!


I emailed them a link to one on amazon the other week.



Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Luca Canali on 23 Jul 2013 - 17:34
Yep, probably too late - my offer of a high res cover scan still stands though if there's still time.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: CameraObscura on 25 Jul 2013 - 11:22
It is time, and we would love to have it!

Please send it to info at obscurafilms dot de.

Thank you so much!
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: MarcMorris on 25 Jul 2013 - 11:24
I can copy/capture NTSC and export to any file format. Let me know if I can help.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Luca Canali on 25 Jul 2013 - 21:45
It is time, and we would love to have it!

Please send it to info at obscurafilms dot de.

Thank you so much!




No problem, I'll send the cover scan at the weekend once I have a little more time. Glad there's still time!






@ Marc - Thanks for the offer but I'm not based in the UK at the moment and wouldn't want risk shipping the tape abroa and then shipping it back. Cheers though.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: bdc on 26 Jul 2013 - 18:28
Pre-order up at OMG.  :D

http://www.omg-entertainment.nl/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65_103&products_id=1646 (http://www.omg-entertainment.nl/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65_103&products_id=1646)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: demented_uk on 26 Jul 2013 - 18:50
Beat me to it, Bruno. Got my pre-order in. £27! Cheaper than laserdisc, I suppose.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: bdc on 27 Jul 2013 - 08:32
Not bad for a CO 2-discer imho.  :D
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: bdc on 27 Jul 2013 - 11:18
I hope CO will share some more caps and a trailer or promo video soon?
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: CameraObscura on 27 Jul 2013 - 13:44
Small update: We have everything we need now in terms of media. If you have scans of covers, posters, ect., we're still ooking for stuff in that department.

There is no trailer for this film. You will get all the info you need on our facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/CameraObscuraFilmdistribution?ref=ts (https://www.facebook.com/CameraObscuraFilmdistribution?ref=ts)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: bdc on 27 Jul 2013 - 16:25
Thanks for the link,been keeping up with your posts there.  :D
Shame there's no trailer,maybe you could make a little promo vid?
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Luca Canali on 28 Jul 2013 - 08:46
Small update: We have everything we need now in terms of media. If you have scans of covers, posters, ect., we're still ooking for stuff in that department.

There is no trailer for this film. You will get all the info you need on our facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/CameraObscuraFilmdistribution?ref=ts (https://www.facebook.com/CameraObscuraFilmdistribution?ref=ts)


Just sent you a high res cover scan of the US Something Weird tape as promised. Please check your emails.


Also added a lower res scan to the gallery here on site.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 28 Jul 2013 - 09:14

Also added a lower res scan to the gallery here on site.

Nice one!  :'(
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 31 Jul 2013 - 17:28
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/q71/s720x720/603047_540185702683681_1919499013_n.jpg)

DVD 1: Italian original version
running time: 89 min.
sound: Italian, German, English (Dolby Digital 2.0 Mono)
aspect ratio: 1.33:1 (4:3) / PAL (= original aspect ratio)
subtitles: English, German (optional)

DVD 2: German version
running time: tba
sound: German (Dolby Digital 2.0 Mono)
aspect ratio: 1,33:1 (4:3) / PAL (= original aspect ratio)
subtitles: English (optional)

Bonus features:

featurette „Of boats and goats“* featuring Rosalba Neri and Salvatore Puntillo
featurette „Gelegenheit macht Triebe“** featuring Günter Hendel
audio commentary** by Christian Keßler and Marcus Stiglegger
booklet (English/German) with liner notes by Kai Naumann
picture gallery
animated Italian photo novel
alternate scenes

* optional German and English subtitles
** optional English subtitles
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: ciavazzaro on 31 Jul 2013 - 18:47
Wow !,can't wait !
but the alternate scenes are the naked ones from the us version ?
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: JAMIOUSE on 31 Jul 2013 - 19:06
I'm surprized it's only 1.33 aspect or did we already know that?
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: CameraObscura on 01 Aug 2013 - 08:28
I'm surprized it's only 1.33 aspect or did we already know that?

The movie was shot in 1.33:1 and will be on our discs that way. We tried to crop it to 1.66:1 even, but the compositions are totally out of whack with that ratio. 1.33:1 is the only way to watch TOP SENSATION and its female cast in all their glory.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Luca Canali on 01 Aug 2013 - 17:48
@ Camera Obscura - Did you get the high res cover scan of the US tape that I emailed you?
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: CameraObscura on 06 Aug 2013 - 10:47
The alternate scenes are the US nudie scenes plus opening and end credits, the German additional scenes plus opening and end credits and an alternative ending from the Italian TV broadcast.

@ Luca: Yes, we got the high-res scan! thank so much for this!
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Luca Canali on 06 Aug 2013 - 20:46
The alternate scenes are the US nudie scenes plus opening and end credits, the German additional scenes plus opening and end credits and an alternative ending from the Italian TV broadcast.

@ Luca: Yes, we got the high-res scan! thank so much for this!


Excellent, no problem!  :P
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: JAMIOUSE on 07 Aug 2013 - 19:36
Got my copy ordered with OMG Entertainment and finally ordered Spirits of Death. That was an expensive afternoon of online shopping. Now I wondering if I should buy Night of the Devils?
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: bdc on 09 Aug 2013 - 20:05
Just buy it.  :D

Can't wait for Top Sensation to start shipping!  ;)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: CameraObscura on 15 Aug 2013 - 11:07
We are working hard on making this the best DVD ever, unfortunately we have some trouble with Edwige. We are subtitling the deleted scenes (from a tape, our main feature looks way better), but we can't understand what she is saying in these two short clips:

 http://www.file-upload.net/download-7962587/Top-Sensation-D1.Title3.avi.avi.html (http://www.file-upload.net/download-7962587/Top-Sensation-D1.Title3.avi.avi.html)

The download button is the little one on the right side with the arrow. Can anyboy help out? It would be greatly appreciated!
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Kevin Coed on 15 Aug 2013 - 11:38
What language are the clips in?
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: CameraObscura on 15 Aug 2013 - 11:40
English.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Kevin Coed on 15 Aug 2013 - 11:49
I'm on it.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Kevin Coed on 15 Aug 2013 - 11:54
First clip :- "If only.......... happening' ??


Second clip :- 'Well little goat, you are very sweet'
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Hellochas on 15 Aug 2013 - 20:41
Can't make out what is being said in the first clip, but the 2nd:


"Wild little goat, you are very sweet."
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Hellochas on 15 Aug 2013 - 20:54
First clip sound like "We follow Vivienne carefully. "
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: the blob on 15 Aug 2013 - 23:29
Can't make out what is being said in the first clip, but the 2nd:


"Wild little goat, you are very sweet."


I think that's right. I've stretched the audio and done some extreme eq and I think the first part is "Be Sure To Begin Carefully".

see if this helps anyone..

http://www.sendspace.com/file/28jjdz (http://www.sendspace.com/file/28jjdz)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Strigoyu on 16 Aug 2013 - 07:15
Hi there! I'm not an English speaker (actually, I'm Spanish), but I'm almost sure that the 2nd sentence sounds like "Ride, little goat! You are very sweet!". I think that she does not pronounce an "w" but a clear (to me, at least) "r". Hope it helps!
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Hellochas on 16 Aug 2013 - 15:01
Can we see more of the first clip to establish a context?
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: wayne on 16 Aug 2013 - 15:14
Can we see more of the first clip to establish a context?

There is some kind of creep in the first scene looking at the girls from behind a bush and they noticed him and start getting at each other ....

From this clip i only get "carefully" ...

The second one could also be ... "Why little goat, you are very sweet." Of course WHY in like ... why hello there.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: JAMIOUSE on 11 Sep 2013 - 13:07
Is this shipping yet?
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: DjangoLi on 11 Sep 2013 - 21:14
The guy who produced the extras posts over at Gentedirispetto - he says it's already pressed up and should be available next week.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: ianmiller on 11 Sep 2013 - 21:48
Just logged in for the first time in forever to see when this was shipping. Hilarious and fitting that it will be released in Redman and I's birthday month!!
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 12 Sep 2013 - 17:27
Just logged in for the first time in forever to see when this was shipping. Hilarious and fitting that it will be released in Redman and I's birthday month!!

Cool isn't it!
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: ianmiller on 12 Sep 2013 - 22:56
Absolutely, as is your avatar!
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 13 Sep 2013 - 13:12
Camera Obscura posted on Facebook that this is indeed now shipping.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: CameraObscura on 13 Sep 2013 - 17:45
It is! Finally!!!  ::)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 13 Sep 2013 - 17:51
It is! Finally!!!  ::)

Looking forward to checking the DVD out! Possibly the most anticipated release of the year for me!
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: bdc on 14 Sep 2013 - 09:17
Just came to check when this was shipping...had it on pre-order.
Great news!  ::)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Old Geezer on 14 Sep 2013 - 13:56
I pre-ordered this almost exactly one year ago from KultVideo so this is exciting news. First time I've ever ordered from KultVideo - can anyone with tell me if they send out an e-mail when they ship?
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: babybreese on 20 Sep 2013 - 00:34
Got mine today from Diabolik, especially rewarding after an 11 hr day at work ( 'cept I am too tired to even crack the shrink wrap right now ).  It's a great feeling to find this in one's mailbox, that's for certain.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jamie on 20 Sep 2013 - 02:04
It's beautiful. I mean, even just the cover and packaging alone is!

C.O. - You guys outdid yourselves and are to be commended. I never thought Id see the day where there's a Special Edition of this movie.

By the way, one thing Im curious about - Do you have any idea why the negative is 1.33 considering it was shot for theaters in 68/69? I agree though that if it was matted even to 1.66, it would cut things off.

Anyway, this is one of those special releases that don't come along that often. Thank you, it's appreciated.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Scyther on 22 Sep 2013 - 02:35
Gonna watch my copy tonight, as it arrived today from Diabolik. Disc one became dislodged and is scratched, however, so crossing my fingers all will be well!  :-[
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: bdc on 22 Sep 2013 - 08:48
Still waiting for mine to be shipped,I guess Diabolik got them first?
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Kevin Coed on 22 Sep 2013 - 09:09
Haven't ordered mine yet. Waiting for payday next week.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: CameraObscura on 22 Sep 2013 - 09:36
Yes, the 1.33:1 framing is a definite head-scratcher and cost us a few days of tinkering until we realized there is no way the film was designed for any kind of matting. The negative tins had no labelling or anything on them, and the lab had no idea what to do with it. We originally guessed 1.66:1 would be the way to go, and made a matted test but it looked ridiculous with heads missing and all.

Maybe Alessi was fond of pre-widescreen-era cinematography and wanted to convey the confinement of the yacht and the closeness of the people on it (since everybody is actually having an affair with everybody...), with people "melting" into each other in the frame.

Whatever the reason may be for them to shoot it that way, here is the version that preserves the most picture information.  :-\
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Paul on 22 Sep 2013 - 11:44
You're probably right about it being a conscious decision on the direct's part, there are still filmmakers who favour the academy format even today (Brit director Andrea Arnold being one such example) and that's even more of a head-scratcher given how 16/9 has been the standard for some time.

My copy shipped from OMG this morning. Can't wait.


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Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: bdc on 22 Sep 2013 - 13:55
Still waiting for mine to be shipped,I guess Diabolik got them first?

Just checked my mail and OMG shipped mine as well.  ::)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 22 Sep 2013 - 15:39
Haven't had the funds to order one yet.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: babybreese on 22 Sep 2013 - 17:04
Love the packaging and the extras, but missed the Spanish variant and would have preferred THE SEDUCERS complete and the German VHS a 10 min bonus.  The image of the Italian is a bit rough on my 40" in the long shots, I'd never have guessed it was from a neg.  But such a huge step up, and colors are vibrant.   It's just great to have this film showered with some love and affection though, so thank you very much for this one.  I appreciate the effort that went into releasing this.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: CameraObscura on 22 Sep 2013 - 20:00
Thanks so much for your kind words!

But you can be half happy now, since you basically own the Spanish version now minus the Spanish audio track :-\. The Italian version is identical to the Spanish one except for the language and some music cues here and there that are different, plus, you get the extended goat scene in the Italian version which was more or less cut in Spain.

The US version is the more interesting one as there are some scenes that were edited a little differently plus the alternative nudie shots of course. Both are included in the Additional Scenes section, and the US language track is synched to the Italian version which is also interesting since the dubbing is pretty crazy and the music has also been substituted with alternate tracks. So basically the US version is more or less conserved in the set as well. The German version was included because A) the VHS has a better quality than the dreadful US one, and B) the German version doesn't only have additional scenes but was also heavily cut, which makes it even more interesting (also because this is a German release and the German version has lots of fans -- and we could also do the interview with Günter Hendel which makes the presence of the complete German version all the more important).

Oh my, what a rant, but since there are so many different versions out there and only few  people really know which one is which and what's different, I guess it's okay to write all these lines here... We tried to produce the set that makes the most sense and features everything you can possibly own of TOP SENSATION without going with a 4 disc set or something that features additional versions in bad quality that in the end no one really wants to watch. Not to mention the costs...

Since the negative was in such bad shape due to regrettably poor storage conditions, a blu-ray wouldn't have made much sense either since the shortcomings of the negative would have been all the more visible in HD. Believe me, some films are better off in SD.

Now you know what went on in our minds when we were working on this release.  :-\

I hope you all have fun with the set despite the sometimes tough decisions we had to make! And thank you so much for the support we receive(d) from all of you! I can't tell you how much we appreciate it! Without your help, this release would not have been possible in this shape.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Scyther on 23 Sep 2013 - 01:57
Thanks to YOU guys, as well. Thanks for continuing the good fight for Eurocult! You keep releasing them, we'll keep buying them!
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: bdc on 23 Sep 2013 - 10:11
Thanks for all the Euro goodness!  ;)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Luca Canali on 23 Sep 2013 - 17:36

My copy arrived today from Diabolik  ::)


... the US language track is synched to the Italian version which is also interesting since the dubbing is pretty crazy and the music has also been substituted with alternate tracks.


I'm so glad that you guys did this as the US version has a far superior soundtrack in my opinion - especially during the 3 way lesbian scene. The music in the Italian version is suitably dreamy but the US soundtrack was the one I was used to and packs moe fo a punch. The Spanish soundtrack was terrible during this scene, so I'm happy that's been ditched.


I think with so many different versions out there it would have been difficult to please everyone, especially those who have seen all of the different variants and had their own idea of how they would have preferred the release to be (I am also speaking for myself here) - but you guys deserve the utmost credit for getting it out there in the first place. Thank you once again and please keep up the same level of quality for future release.We all appreciate it and will continue to support what you do.




...I didn't see a credit in the photo gallery for the scan I sent over though!!
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: medway garage on 23 Sep 2013 - 19:11
Apparently 'Filmbar 70' will be showing it on Friday 27th Sept, for their "Final blow out" at the Roxy Bar and Screen, 128 Borough High Street. London, the venue is changing hands alas ! Good timing because it's my birthday weekend also !

https://www.facebook.com/events/148314652045234/ (https://www.facebook.com/events/148314652045234/)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: CameraObscura on 23 Sep 2013 - 21:31
Hopefully the Disc reaches Filmbar in time...!

@ Luca: We forgot you?! Damn, so sorry about that! I promise it won't happen again next time! :(
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: medway garage on 25 Sep 2013 - 17:13
Hopefully the Disc reaches Filmbar in time...!

@ Luca: We forgot you?! Damn, so sorry about that! I promise it won't happen again next time! :(

Sadly it now looks like the 'Filmbar 70' event is cancelled....shame I was looking forward to that !
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 25 Sep 2013 - 17:41
(http://imageshack.us/a/img593/5279/zv6p.jpg)

My copy arrived today! Kaboom!   :P
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: bdc on 25 Sep 2013 - 19:09
Mine as well!  ::)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Ben Cobb on 26 Sep 2013 - 08:10
Still waiting for mine from DTM
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: JAMIOUSE on 26 Sep 2013 - 08:37
And mine from OMG Entertainment...
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Paul on 26 Sep 2013 - 09:42
Delivery from OMG is pretty swift once dispatched. I imagine mine will be here before the week is out.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 27 Sep 2013 - 21:25
Watched all the extras on the DVD tonight - The main set of interviews are amazing, I love how everyone remembers the shoot so well, there's some amazing anecdotes from everyone involved. Rosalba is amazing, we need more interviews with her!

Interesting to hear about them putting salt on Edwige's knees to get the goat to play ball... The clips remind you of just how dodgy that scene looks despite how un-dodgy it really was when filmed.

I started skimming through the photo novel extra which gave me a chuckle...

(http://imageshack.com/a/img33/1389/cqet.jpg)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: MarcMorris on 10 Oct 2013 - 14:20
Received the disc the other day, but it's the first DVD I've encountered that refuses to play on my Mac. :(
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 10 Oct 2013 - 18:07
Received the disc the other day, but it's the first DVD I've encountered that refuses to play on my Mac. :(

I get the same, it's a UDF formatted disc from what I can tell.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: strangedaysindeed on 15 Oct 2013 - 08:55
Watched this yesterday. Good film, shame about the quality of the English dub which was bleeding appalling, though it seems it was best they could do. I switched to Italian with English subs and that was fine. Have yet to watch the German version so I don't know what that's like. The goat scene was extremely weird :-\
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: MarcMorris on 15 Oct 2013 - 08:57
Where did the English dub come from? Was it from the SWV tape?
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: strangedaysindeed on 15 Oct 2013 - 11:16
Where did the English dub come from? Was it from the SWV tape?

not sure maybe somebody else knows
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: CameraObscura on 17 Oct 2013 - 07:41
About the Mac problem: we checked it out and yes, there seems to be a playback problem on Apple computers, but seemingly only with the internal player. VLC player plays the discs. We are not sure why there is a problem in the first place but it seems to be due to a reinstallation of the pre-mastering software which seems to have changed to default options. We are very sorry for the inconvenience! You are the only one to have noticed it so far, though...

About the English language track: Yes, it's from the Something Weird tape which is the only source for the English language track we could locate after 1 year of research. And yes, it's not really good but we still included it for the sake of having an integral edition. 
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 21 Oct 2013 - 21:28
Watched it this evening for the first time, not a lot goes on but it's enjoyable enough, however much I love Edwige, Rosalba did it more for me in this one. Reminded me a lot of Interrabang, I watched it in Italian with English subs.


Also watched the extra scenes on the disc, I thought the added German scenes were atrocious (but it was still good that they were added to the disc) and was surprised that the U.S. alternate scenes were more fleshier.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: CameraObscura on 11 Apr 2014 - 08:11
We're out of copies of TOP SENSATION. That means, if you still want to get your hands on a set, you will have to hurry before the title is completely sold out in every store.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: broonage on 11 Apr 2014 - 10:57
We're out of copies of TOP SENSATION. That means, if you still want to get your hands on a set, you will have to hurry before the title is completely sold out in every store.

Ordered it two weeks, phew!
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: quidtum on 11 Apr 2014 - 11:00
We're out of copies of TOP SENSATION. That means, if you still want to get your hands on a set, you will have to hurry before the title is completely sold out in every store.
Is this your best seller so far?
I'm very glad if so  ;)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: JAMIOUSE on 11 Apr 2014 - 11:47
Yes I'm intrigued to know as well, is Top Sensation Obscuras best seller to date? How have previous releases sold, have older titles sold out too?
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: CameraObscura on 13 Apr 2014 - 10:38
No, it's nt the best seller, that would be SO SWEET, SO DEAD followed by TERROR EXPRESS (if you consider the huge cost differences of these two projects).
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: DjangoLi on 21 Apr 2014 - 15:22
There's a single disc edition due soon:

http://www.rockshockpop.com/forums/showthread.php?3103-Camera-Obscura-Releasing-The-Seducers-%28Top-Sensation%29/page6 (http://www.rockshockpop.com/forums/showthread.php?3103-Camera-Obscura-Releasing-The-Seducers-%28Top-Sensation%29/page6)

Plus these have popped up, officially licensed from CameraObscura

http://www.ebay.de/itm/TOP-SENSATION-SKLAVEN-IHRER-TRIEBE-UNCUT-COVER-C-LIMITED-69er-HARTBOX-NEU-/111324861310?pt=DE_DVDs&hash=item19eb7a937e (http://www.ebay.de/itm/TOP-SENSATION-SKLAVEN-IHRER-TRIEBE-UNCUT-COVER-C-LIMITED-69er-HARTBOX-NEU-/111324861310?pt=DE_DVDs&hash=item19eb7a937e)

http://www.ebay.de/itm/TOP-SENSATION-SKLAVEN-IHRER-TRIEBE-UNCUT-COVER-C-LIMITED-69er-HARTBOX-NEU-/111324861310?pt=DE_DVDs&hash=item19eb7a937e (http://www.ebay.de/itm/TOP-SENSATION-SKLAVEN-IHRER-TRIEBE-UNCUT-COVER-C-LIMITED-69er-HARTBOX-NEU-/111324861310?pt=DE_DVDs&hash=item19eb7a937e)

Lord knows how many variants there are, one of them is cover 'C' - But between the variants there should be another few hundred copies floating around... in addition to the existant copies in stock just about everywhere (cheapest in Europe is KultVideo - 29 euros - Probably Diabolik on the other side of the globe)

My point?

Blanket posts on forums telling us it's out of stock (hey, even I was tempted...) followed by the obvious realisation that there are still hundreds of copies available, including at least 4 new variants. Something tells me they've taken a leaf out of Bill's (Code Red) web marketing approach.

It's far from sold out anywhere except from the source but I suspect there will be many copies for sale for at least a year - based on a very basic web search.

Like I said, I almost bought it myself - but it's too much cash for me right now and I don't yearn to see it that badly... I can wait. Besides, aside from lots of naked flesh, nobody has turned around and said "Wow! This is a great film!". In fact most reviews indicate the opposite.

Apart from that,

Happy Easter.



Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Jonny on 21 Apr 2014 - 16:21
There's a single disc edition due soon:

[url]http://www.rockshockpop.com/forums/showthread.php?3103-Camera-Obscura-Releasing-The-Seducers-%28Top-Sensation%29/page6[/url] ([url]http://www.rockshockpop.com/forums/showthread.php?3103-Camera-Obscura-Releasing-The-Seducers-%28Top-Sensation%29/page6[/url])

Plus these have popped up, officially licensed from CameraObscura

[url]http://www.ebay.de/itm/TOP-SENSATION-SKLAVEN-IHRER-TRIEBE-UNCUT-COVER-C-LIMITED-69er-HARTBOX-NEU-/111324861310?pt=DE_DVDs&hash=item19eb7a937e[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.de/itm/TOP-SENSATION-SKLAVEN-IHRER-TRIEBE-UNCUT-COVER-C-LIMITED-69er-HARTBOX-NEU-/111324861310?pt=DE_DVDs&hash=item19eb7a937e[/url])

[url]http://www.ebay.de/itm/TOP-SENSATION-SKLAVEN-IHRER-TRIEBE-UNCUT-COVER-C-LIMITED-69er-HARTBOX-NEU-/111324861310?pt=DE_DVDs&hash=item19eb7a937e[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.de/itm/TOP-SENSATION-SKLAVEN-IHRER-TRIEBE-UNCUT-COVER-C-LIMITED-69er-HARTBOX-NEU-/111324861310?pt=DE_DVDs&hash=item19eb7a937e[/url])

Lord knows how many variants there are, one of them is cover 'C' - But between the variants there should be another few hundred copies floating around... in addition to the existant copies in stock just about everywhere (cheapest in Europe is KultVideo - 29 euros - Probably Diabolik on the other side of the globe)

My point?

Blanket posts on forums telling us it's out of stock (hey, even I was tempted...) followed by the obvious realisation that there are still hundreds of copies available, including at least 4 new variants. Something tells me they've taken a leaf out of Bill's (Code Red) web marketing approach.

It's far from sold out anywhere except from the source but I suspect there will be many copies for sale for at least a year - based on a very basic web search.

Like I said, I almost bought it myself - but it's too much cash for me right now and I don't yearn to see it that badly... I can wait. Besides, aside from lots of naked flesh, nobody has turned around and said "Wow! This is a great film!". In fact most reviews indicate the opposite.

Apart from that,

Happy Easter.


Happy Easter to you too, you grumpy get! Haha!
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: bdc on 21 Apr 2014 - 18:24
Lol,happy Easter!  :D
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: DjangoLi on 21 Apr 2014 - 18:40
Not grumpy, you cheeky monkey  :P

Honestly, I just read it as "Get in quick guys, not many left!" - u know, across just about all the Eurocult forums... and then, just as I was about to say what the hell! and actually buy it I realised there's mountains of copies - and new variants - out there.

That's all.

Actually, maybe a little bit grumpy because the insect bite on my foot is refusing to go away... but no, just not a fan of the hard-sell tactics some people employ.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: CameraObscura on 21 Apr 2014 - 20:06
Don't worry, this is no inventive marketing concept. It's just a service several fans in our German main forum asked us to do once we are out if copies. The reason for this is that we didn't do it on SO SWEET, SO DEAD and there were many disappointed fans who tried to find a copy but couldn't. So it's fact, we are out of copies and we have no idea how long the stocks of the resellers will last. That's pretty much it.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: DjangoLi on 21 Apr 2014 - 23:17
Then I most humbly apologise, but I hope people can perhaps understand where I was coming from.

A question - Do the limited hartbox editions contain both discs? As much as I studied the covers I couldn't figure it out, although the extras all matched up to the 2-disc edition.

...and I guess I should actually buy a copy now  ::)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: CameraObscura on 23 Apr 2014 - 07:58
No problem. This is simply a measure to help people -- who got wind of the title late or held out buying it for various reasons -- to not having to pay incredible prices on ebay and such as it is common with out of print titles.

The hardboxes only contain the first discs. The second disc and the booklet will remain exclusive to the limited digipak.
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: DjangoLi on 23 Apr 2014 - 08:44
Okay, just ordered the digipak from this seller:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/TOP-SENSATION-SKLAVEN-IHRER-TRIEBE-UNCUT-LIMITED-DIGIPAK-NEU-OVP-/111328193607?pt=DE_DVDs&hash=item19ebad6c47 (http://www.ebay.de/itm/TOP-SENSATION-SKLAVEN-IHRER-TRIEBE-UNCUT-LIMITED-DIGIPAK-NEU-OVP-/111328193607?pt=DE_DVDs&hash=item19ebad6c47)

Big sacrifices made here... take note:

1) if the film sucks, I shall only hold myself to blame - well, myself and the filmmakers.

2) if you announce a blu-ray release within the next 30 days I shall personally travel up to Germany, find you and make you listen to David Hasselhoff records until your ears bleed.

Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 23 Apr 2014 - 09:46
2) if you announce a blu-ray release within the next 30 days I shall personally travel up to Germany, find you and make you listen to David Hasselhoff records until your ears bleed.
Get in my car  :-\ ;D
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: DjangoLi on 23 Apr 2014 - 10:39
2) if you announce a blu-ray release within the next 30 days I shall personally travel up to Germany, find you and make you listen to David Hasselhoff records until your ears bleed.
Get in my car  :-\ ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJQVlVHsFF8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJQVlVHsFF8)
Title: Re: Top Sensation / The Seducers (Ottavio Alessi, 1969)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 05 Feb 2016 - 11:59
Soundtrack out this month.

(http://i437.photobucket.com/albums/qq98/spara73/forum/30884.jpg)