Euro Cult Movie Forum => Gialli => Topic started by: CJ on 10 Jan 2008 - 01:40

Title: Body Puzzle / Misteria (Lamberto Bava, 1991)
Post by: CJ on 10 Jan 2008 - 01:40
I recently re-watched this Image DVD, one of the first I ever bought, in fact. It still holds up and is an interesting spin on the whole Giallo genre. I just wondered what others here, you being a discriminating lot, thought of this movie.
Title: Re: Body Puzzle / Misteria (Lamberto Bava, 1991)
Post by: Paul on 10 Jan 2008 - 08:43
I've never seen it - once bought a copy of the Image disc off of eBay and it turned out to be a fucking bootleg. I was proper angry!
Title: Re: Body Puzzle / Misteria (Lamberto Bava, 1991)
Post by: demented_uk on 10 Jan 2008 - 09:31
I really like this one and I think that it is one of Bava Jr's better films.
Title: Re: Body Puzzle / Misteria (Lamberto Bava, 1991)
Post by: mbaronas on 11 Jan 2008 - 01:53
It contains one of the best, most flamboyant lines Giovanni Lombardo Radice ever utters on screen as I recall...

"Honey, I've been out of the closet for years."

...or something to that effect.

Johnny is the best!!!

-Mike
 www.PauraProd.com
Title: Re: Body Puzzle / Misteria (Lamberto Bava, 1991)
Post by: fdsmedia on 11 Jan 2008 - 07:44
I ordered the Madacy DVD which is supposed to be of very good quality - looking forward to it!
Title: Re: Body Puzzle / Misteria (Lamberto Bava, 1991)
Post by: ecc on 13 Jan 2008 - 22:44
I have seen an R2 release on eBay (Dutch, I think) that has a DTS logo on the cover.
Title: Re: Body Puzzle / Misteria (Lamberto Bava, 1991)
Post by: Peter on 27 Jan 2008 - 16:34
Just re-watched this for the first time in a couple of years and I'd say this is my favorite out of Lamberto's gialli. There are some good to great set-pieces in his other films, but on the whole this is a much more satisfying film for me. The only thing that I really don't like (slight spoiler I suppose) are the ridiculously sped up car chases that bookends the film.
I've got the Image disc and considering its age, I'm pretty happy with it. What's the Madacy disc like Magnus?     
Title: Re: Body Puzzle / Misteria (Lamberto Bava, 1991)
Post by: fdsmedia on 27 Jan 2008 - 17:17
I haven't received it yet, but someone at another forum says it's a port of the Image disc...
Title: Re: Body Puzzle / Misteria (Lamberto Bava, 1991)
Post by: ecc on 17 Jun 2008 - 10:46
Over the opening credits, we find a man (Francois Montagut) playing Bach's "Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring" on a piano in a garage.  It is soon revealed that he is actually listening to a recording and not actually playing at all.  This leads to a flashback (scored with Mussorgsky's "Night on Bald Mountain") in which he is speeding along a wet road in a car trying to convince another man on motorcycle to slow down before he gets in an accident.  The man on the motorcycle eventually does crash.  He is revealed to be Abe, the dead husband of Tracy (Joanna Pacula who also did another P.A.C. production around this time LA VILLA DEI VENERDI aka HUSBANDS AND LOVERS based on an untranslated novel by Alberto Moravia) when she is called to the cemetery to discover that his grave has been robbed.  Soon the man from the opening is stalking and killing various people who were the recipients of Abe's organs and other body parts after his death and leaving some grisly surprises for Tracy.  Detective Michael Livet (Tomas Arana of Michele Soavi's THE CHURCH and THE SECT) is on the case with pressure from his chief (Gianni Garko) to solve the case quickly (though he does take time out for an obligatory romanctic encounter with Tracy).  Also on hand are Giovanni Lombardo Radice (HOUSE ON THE EDGE OF THE PARK) as a gay friend of Abe's as well as Erika Blanc, Susanna Javicoli (SUSPIRIA), and Bruno Corazzari (THE PSYCHIC).

After a series of TV movies during the late eighties, Bava returned to theatrical films with BODY PUZZLE which is one of his slicker films thanks to the contributions of cinematographer Luigi Kuveiller (rather ordinary compared to DEEP RED), editor Piero Bozza (DEMONS), and a sax heavy score by Carlo Maria Cordio where he seems to have laid off the Korg keyboard.  The gore is largely restrained but the effects (by Franco Casagni) are more convincing.  The climactic twist is surprising but raises some glaring questions.  The murder sequences were originally scored with "O Fortuna" from Carl Orff's CARMINA BURANA.  While this track is as overused as the Mussorgsky track, it probably would've been more effective here (the film was re-released in Italy as MISTERIA with the rescoring after Orff's family objected though they seem to have no problem with some of the other crap the piece appears in).  Besides the obligatory romance between detective and damsel in distress, we also get a nonsensical ending with Livet walking into the horizon in wide shot for no apparent reason (he barely comforts Pacula and the police have just arrived on the scene so the investigation is still under way).

The film was released in the US on tape by Triboro Entertainment uncut (they also released edited versions of BLOOD FOR DRACULA and FLESH FOR FRANKENSTEIN).  The box art sported Anglicized pseudonyms for Arana, Montagut, cinematographer Kuveiller (as Lee Kraus), and Bava (as Larry Louis).  While the screener's had the original export version credits, the rental tapes replaced the opening credits with these pseudonyms although Arana and Montagut's own names appeared on the end credits.  The early DVD release through Image Entertainment featured the original export credits as well.  These releases as well as the Japanese tape were fullscreen.  I don't know where my English DVDR copy comes from but its letterboxed at 1.66:1 as is the Italian Prism DVD (in 4:3) but the newer DVD from Flamingo is 1.78:1 (16:9) according to the specs at Kult Video.  I've also seen a Dutch DVD cover with a DTS logo.
Title: Re: Body Puzzle / Misteria (Lamberto Bava, 1991)
Post by: fdsmedia on 17 Jun 2008 - 11:06
Do you know if the Image and Madacy discs are pan & scan or open matte?
Title: Re: Body Puzzle / Misteria (Lamberto Bava, 1991)
Post by: ecc on 17 Jun 2008 - 11:17
I don't have the Image disc anymore.  Another thing I noticed is that the scenes between Arana and Pacula appear to be recorded live compared to the rest of the film.
Title: Re: Body Puzzle / Misteria (Lamberto Bava, 1991)
Post by: ecc on 17 Jun 2008 - 11:32
Some screenshots:
(http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/1379/bp01tp4.th.jpg) (http://img151.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bp01tp4.jpg)(http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/6329/bp02qy3.th.jpg) (http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bp02qy3.jpg)(http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/9527/bp03mj4.th.jpg) (http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bp03mj4.jpg)(http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/8876/bp04du0.th.jpg) (http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bp04du0.jpg)
Title: Re: Body Puzzle / Misteria (Lamberto Bava, 1991)
Post by: fdsmedia on 17 Jun 2008 - 11:38
Looks nice, I'll compare with my Madacy disc
Title: Re: Body Puzzle / Misteria (Lamberto Bava, 1991)
Post by: ecc on 17 Jun 2008 - 11:42
Anyone have either of the Italian discs?

Also, Pacula's home in the city is the same location used in VILLA DEL VENERDI.
Title: Re: Body Puzzle / Misteria (Lamberto Bava, 1991)
Post by: demented_uk on 17 Jun 2008 - 11:46
Quote
Do you know if the Image and Madacy discs are pan & scan or open matte?

I think that both discs are identical and they are very slightly letterboxed at around 1.66:1 ratio.  I own the Madacy DVD.
Title: Re: Body Puzzle / Misteria (Lamberto Bava, 1991)
Post by: ecc on 17 Jun 2008 - 11:53
I could've sworn that the Image disc was fullscreen.
Title: Re: Body Puzzle / Misteria (Lamberto Bava, 1991)
Post by: demented_uk on 17 Jun 2008 - 13:20
It was definitely labelled as fullscreen but I am sure I read a review somewhere that it was slightly letterboxed.  I will check when I get home.
Title: Re: Body Puzzle / Misteria (Lamberto Bava, 1991)
Post by: fdsmedia on 17 Jun 2008 - 16:48
Here's a quick comparison, I can do the others later:

ecc DVD-R (downsized a little):
(http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/9522/bp01tp4ih3.jpg)

Madacy:
(http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/7398/bodypuzzle0xc1.jpg)
Title: Re: Body Puzzle / Misteria (Lamberto Bava, 1991)
Post by: fdsmedia on 17 Jun 2008 - 17:40
ecc DVD-R
(http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/1849/bp02qy3ml7.jpg)

Madacy
(http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/3467/bodypuzzle1ql5.jpg)
Title: Re: Body Puzzle / Misteria (Lamberto Bava, 1991)
Post by: ecc on 17 Jun 2008 - 20:48
Madacy looks slightly brighter.  I wonder how the two Italian transfers look.
Title: Re: Body Puzzle / Misteria (Lamberto Bava, 1991)
Post by: fdsmedia on 17 Jun 2008 - 20:52
Here are the last two...

ecc:
(http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/8153/bp03mj4mo4.jpg)

Madacy:
(http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/3170/bodypuzzle4ii0.jpg)

ecc:
(http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/6108/bp04du0ut2.jpg)

Madacy:
(http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/6492/bodypuzzle2qp7.jpg)
Title: Re: Body Puzzle / Misteria (Lamberto Bava, 1991)
Post by: fdsmedia on 17 Jun 2008 - 21:05
I think it's quite annoying when the DVD companies don't seem to have any clue about the technical bits... the back cover of Madacy's release claims that it's full screen...
Title: Re: Body Puzzle / Misteria (Lamberto Bava, 1991)
Post by: ecc on 11 Aug 2008 - 05:16
I just noticed that the DVDR I had credits "Carmina Burana" as being on the soundtrack even though its the "Bald Mountain" version.  Evidentally the musical change was made after the elements for the English export version were prepared (my old tape had a very abrupt dissolve at the end of the credits to the PAC copyright notice to cover up that credit, I guess).
Title: Re: Body Puzzle / Misteria (Lamberto Bava, 1991)
Post by: ecc on 11 Aug 2008 - 11:47
Has the "Carmina Burana" version ever been available or did the Orff estate succeed in blocking its use in the film in favor of its appearance in so many trailers for crappy films, NASCAR ads, and razor blade commercials.
Title: Re: Body Puzzle / Misteria (Lamberto Bava, 1991)
Post by: ecc on 10 May 2009 - 00:56
Picked up the Flaming Video release.  This is the second Italian DVD release.  It is anamorphic 1.66:1 in Italian only.  What makes it quite a nice release is the great stereo Italian mix.  The English stereo mix isn't very active but the Italian mix is very active with the music and sound effects (the flashback car/motorcyle chase is much more vivid and "Night on Bald Mountain" is very punchy).

EDIT: The stereo mix on the Italian disc is more active than the one on the NTSC disc I got in trade which has no menu but appears to be a movie-only rip.  The Dutch DVD's stereo English track is comparable to the Italian one (the 5.1 is pretty good too).
Title: Re: Body Puzzle / Misteria (Lamberto Bava, 1991)
Post by: ecc on 14 May 2009 - 07:39
It was definitely labelled as fullscreen but I am sure I read a review somewhere that it was slightly letterboxed.  I will check when I get home.

The Madacy disc is letterboxed.  The Image disc is fullscreen open-matte (probably from the same master made for the tape release - minus the video generated credits).
Title: Re: Body Puzzle / Misteria (Lamberto Bava, 1991)
Post by: eiren on 15 May 2009 - 14:39
I've got the Image disc, it's definitely 4:3 open-matte.

I think it needs a decent upgrade. Is there an actual decent 1.85:1 OAR release of it yet? Or are they all pan'n'scan versions of the fullscreen version?

It's a film I enjoy still, so would be nice to see it presented properly.
Title: Re: Body Puzzle / Misteria (Lamberto Bava, 1991)
Post by: ecc on 15 May 2009 - 15:14
I've got the Image disc, it's definitely 4:3 open-matte.

I think it needs a decent upgrade. Is there an actual decent 1.85:1 OAR release of it yet? Or are they all pan'n'scan versions of the fullscreen version?

It's a film I enjoy still, so would be nice to see it presented properly.

The OAR is 1.66:1.  The Italian disc is 1.66:1 anamorphic.  The US Madacy and Dutch BBI discs are non-anamorphic 1.66:1.  The US Image DVD is unmatted.
Title: Re: Body Puzzle / Misteria (Lamberto Bava, 1991)
Post by: eiren on 15 May 2009 - 15:17
Ahh I'm going by the IMDB entry which seems to think that the OAR is 1.85:1
Title: Re: Body Puzzle / Misteria (Lamberto Bava, 1991)
Post by: ecc on 09 Jun 2009 - 00:01
ecc DVDR / Madacy (Dutch disc is same master but in PAL) / Flamingo / Image (open-matte)
although the Image caps have the same width as the widescreen ones, Imageshack has annoying scaled the image down.
(http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/9522/bp01tp4ih3.jpg)
(http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/7398/bodypuzzle0xc1.jpg)
(http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/2707/misteria01.jpg)
(http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/3315/bp01.jpg)
(http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/1849/bp02qy3ml7.jpg)
(http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/3467/bodypuzzle1ql5.jpg)
(http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/6162/misteria02.jpg)
(http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/9272/bp02.jpg)
(http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/8153/bp03mj4mo4.jpg)
(http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/3170/bodypuzzle4ii0.jpg)
(http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/4586/misteria03.jpg)
(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/9868/bp03.jpg)
(http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/6108/bp04du0ut2.jpg)
(http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/6492/bodypuzzle2qp7.jpg)
(http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/6231/misteria04.jpg)
(http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/6858/bp04e.jpg)
Title: Re: Body Puzzle / Misteria (Lamberto Bava, 1991)
Post by: jack on 02 Aug 2009 - 00:05
Imo Body Puzzle is as good as A Blade In The Dark.
Title: Re: Body Puzzle / Misteria (Lamberto Bava, 1991)
Post by: ecc on 23 Dec 2009 - 00:45
Although the Italian cut under the title MISTERIA was cut for all ages, the Italian DVD from Flamingo is not cut for violence (there was a previous non-anamorphic letterbox Italian DVD from Prisma but do not know the status), it is missing approximately 1 minute three separate places during the Det. Mike Livet's (Tomas Arana) first trip to the stables to question Guy (Giovanni Lombardo Radice) including an insert of horse hooves on the cobblestones, Mike's arrival by car, and the low angle introductory shot of Guy on horseback and Livet walking into the stable area (41 seconds).  The Italian version syncs up with the English verison with a shot of Mike walking towards Guy who is grooming his horse.  This shot is a long dialogue take which tracks with them a short distance across the cobblestones.  The next cut occurs right after the cut from Mike and Guy outside to a shot of them through the window of dead man Abe's stable quarters (6 seconds of dialogue) before Mike follow Guy to the door and the camera tracks across the inside to the door as they open it (present in the Italian version) before another 17 second cut of Mike and Guy in the doorway when Guy tells him Abe continued to make use of the stables after he was married (the Italian version cuts directly from their entrance to the POV camera pan of the interior which follows the aforementioned exchange).  The final edit occurs to the last seven seconds of the swimming pool murder including the last stabbings and the dead man's face (no gore).

Both the Image and Flamingo end credits fade out to obscure the original credit for Orff's Carmina Burana and fade to the disclaimer.  The credit appears in the Dutch DVD (which is the same master used for the Madacy DVD).

Italian actor Silvano Tranquilli is credited as the dubbing director of the Italian version.
Title: Re: Body Puzzle / Misteria (Lamberto Bava, 1991)
Post by: ecc on 16 Jul 2010 - 12:39
Coming from Digitmovies
(http://www.digitmovies.com/Digitmovies/DB/images/image_715651536.jpg)
Title: Re: Body Puzzle / Misteria (Lamberto Bava, 1991)
Post by: ecc on 10 Dec 2011 - 07:33
working on a review of the Raro disc now.
Title: Re: Body Puzzle / Misteria (Lamberto Bava, 1991)
Post by: gnorthcott on 10 Dec 2011 - 12:21
I was thinking of getting this but a lot of the us raro discs are being slated for blu ray releases months after the dvds street,so im going to hang on for a month or so,as far as i know this has not had a blu ray announcement....yet
Title: Re: Body Puzzle / Misteria (Lamberto Bava, 1991)
Post by: ecc on 12 Dec 2011 - 12:45
BODY PUZZLE (http://dvddrive-in.com/reviews/a-d/bodypuzzle92.htm) at DVD Drive-In.
Title: Re: Body Puzzle / Misteria (Lamberto Bava, 1991)
Post by: ecc on 14 Dec 2011 - 16:03
DVDBeaver comparison of BODY PUZZLE (Image vs Flamingo vs Raro) (http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film3/dvd_reviews55/body_puzzle.htm)
Title: Re: Body Puzzle / Misteria (Lamberto Bava, 1991)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 26 Jul 2015 - 23:35
Not watched this for a good few years (last time I saw it is when the Image DVD came out), quite a nice transfer on the X-Rated Blu Ray, a company that for years was very hit and miss with their DVD releases, since they've been putting out Blu's they appear to be doing a good job.

(http://i437.photobucket.com/albums/qq98/spara73/Blu%20Ray/130791_front.jpg)
Title: Re: Body Puzzle / Misteria (Lamberto Bava, 1991)
Post by: fenriz on 08 Jan 2016 - 17:37
Not watched this for a good few years (last time I saw it is when the Image DVD came out), quite a nice transfer on the X-Rated Blu Ray, a company that for years was very hit and miss with their DVD releases, since they've been putting out Blu's they appear to be doing a good job.

([url]http://i437.photobucket.com/albums/qq98/spara73/Blu%20Ray/130791_front.jpg[/url])


Is this one better than raro ?
Title: Re: Body Puzzle / Misteria (Lamberto Bava, 1991)
Post by: MalastranaMoore on 13 Jan 2016 - 08:28
There are some screencaps posted here:

http://krimi-giallo-casebook.blogspot.com/2016/01/giallo-identikit-body-puzzle-screencap.html (http://krimi-giallo-casebook.blogspot.com/2016/01/giallo-identikit-body-puzzle-screencap.html)
Title: Re: Body Puzzle / Misteria (Lamberto Bava, 1991)
Post by: fenriz on 16 Jan 2016 - 10:11
Thx for the link and welcome here !

i thought it was released by another company on blu !