Euro Cult Movie Forum => Comedy, Drama & Thrillers => Topic started by: fdsmedia on 11 Jan 2008 - 09:03

Title: And Then There Were None / Ein unbekannter rechnet ab (Peter Collinson, 1974)
Post by: fdsmedia on 11 Jan 2008 - 09:03
Not a British film per se, but at least a British director! Been dying to see this one, and just found out that it passed BBFC uncut in 2006 courtesy of Optimum Releasing, so I really hope they will release it soon! I have read about French and Spanish DVD releases but apparently they are of inferior quality.

Anyone seen this? It does have some noteworthy performers like Maria Rohm, Adolfo Celi, Gert Fröbe, Herbert Lom and Elke Sommer - sounds promising!

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Title: Re: And Then There Were None / Ein unbekannter rechnet ab (Peter Collinson, 1974)
Post by: R-T-C Tim on 12 Jan 2008 - 09:03
Don't forget Richard Attenborough and Oliver Reed!

Another classic Harry Alan Towers production, shot in pre-revolutionary Iran IIRC.
Title: Re: And Then There Were None / Ein unbekannter rechnet ab (Peter Collinson, 1974)
Post by: ecc on 16 Jan 2008 - 04:08
The Spanish version has a prologue with Teresa Gimpera and Rik Battaglia justifying their screen credits.  There is a French DVD that is anamorphic widescreen with English credits but only French audio.  The Optimum DVD if it gets released will probably be the same transfer.
Title: Re: And Then There Were None / Ein unbekannter rechnet ab (Peter Collinson, 1974)
Post by: Vito Cipriani on 18 Jan 2008 - 02:14
Didn't this used to get shown in fairly heavy rotation on British television, during the 1980s? I'm sure I've seen it before, but the different film adaptations of Christie's novel have all blurred into one in my memory.

I reread the novel recently, and bought Rene Clair's adaptation, together with the 1960s movie. I'd really like to see Collinson's film version again.
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Post by: ecc on 28 Jan 2008 - 13:57
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and bought Rene Clair's adaptation

How are R2 releases of this one?  Both the VCI disc and the Image "restoration" are none-too-special.
Title: Re: And Then There Were None / Ein unbekannter rechnet ab (Peter Collinson, 1974)
Post by: Vito Cipriani on 28 Jan 2008 - 16:42
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and bought Rene Clair's adaptation

How are R2 releases of this one?  Both the VCI disc and the Image "restoration" are none-too-special.
I'd like to know too. I bought the Image DVD, which is passable but, as you say, nothing special.
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Post by: ecc on 07 May 2008 - 12:18
Anyone have a DVDR of the English version so I could do a fandub of the French disc?
Title: Re: And Then There Were None / Ein unbekannter rechnet ab (Peter Collinson, 1974)
Post by: Jonny on 13 Sep 2008 - 09:56
Eric's review / comparison guide is now on the main site...

Ten Little Indians - DVD review (http://www.lovelockandload.net/forum/index.php?page=48)
Title: Re: And Then There Were None / Ein unbekannter rechnet ab (Peter Collinson, 1974)
Post by: Johan Melle on 13 Sep 2008 - 13:12
Excellent work! Even though I've heard several bad things about this, I've always wanted to see it - largely because of the great cast.

Btw, I think there actually was a Spanish DVD release of this that includes the extra footage with Teresa Gimpera but it is now long OOP. I can't say for absolutely sure, though. Perhaps someone else knows more about this?
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Post by: ecc on 13 Sep 2008 - 13:22
The Spanish DVD came out in 2004 and is out of print.
Title: Re: And Then There Were None / Ein unbekannter rechnet ab (Peter Collinson, 1974)
Post by: The Hunchback on 13 Sep 2008 - 21:44
Does this have an ending similar to the book?

I remember watching the "okay" 1965 version which has the biggest cop out ending imaginable.
IMDB (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061075/)
Title: Re: And Then There Were None / Ein unbekannter rechnet ab (Peter Collinson, 1974)
Post by: Johan Melle on 13 Sep 2008 - 22:18
I believe all of the three versions produced by Towers (and also the old Rene Clair one) use the alternate, more uplifting ending unlike that in the book. In all fairness though, it was Agatha Christie herself that came up with this new ending when she adapted the story for the stage. It's a less grim conclusion and hence more appealing to a "mass audience" so I guess that's why most of the filmmakers who adapted the story for the screen have opted for this ending. There is, however, a Russian version, DESYAT NEGRITYAT (1987), that retains the original conclusion from the book.
Title: Re: And Then There Were None / Ein unbekannter rechnet ab (Peter Collinson, 1974)
Post by: ecc on 14 Sep 2008 - 01:41
Christie also significantly simplified her stage adaptation of APPOINTMENT WITH DEATH (the Cannon film version is actually closer to the book).
Title: Re: And Then There Were None / Ein unbekannter rechnet ab (Peter Collinson, 1974)
Post by: fdsmedia on 15 Sep 2008 - 19:56
The film was submitted to BBFC by Optimum Releasing in September 2006, so I really hope they're gonna release it soon...
Title: Re: And Then There Were None / Ein unbekannter rechnet ab (Peter Collinson, 1974)
Post by: ecc on 01 Oct 2008 - 08:31
Of all the adaptations by Towers, I think Collinson's could've pulled off the downbeat ending.

When I put together the fandub, I found that not only did I have to reposition some shots during the opening (see my review) but I also had to add the opening establishing shot from an AVI of a VHS-rip because it was not present in the French version.
Title: Re: And Then There Were None / Ein unbekannter rechnet ab (Peter Collinson, 1974)
Post by: Paul on 11 Nov 2008 - 13:50
UK release from Optimum is now due on 23rd February.
Title: Re: And Then There Were None / Ein unbekannter rechnet ab (Peter Collinson, 1974)
Post by: fdsmedia on 11 Nov 2008 - 13:51
At fxxking last!  ;)
Title: Re: And Then There Were None / Ein unbekannter rechnet ab (Peter Collinson, 1974)
Post by: Paul on 11 Nov 2008 - 13:55
BTW - the version Optimum submitted to the BBFC in 2006 was fullscreen. Let's not panic just yet; they seem to put a lot of titles through for TV broadcast. They may still resubmit a widescreen version, though it's probably unlikely.
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Post by: fdsmedia on 11 Nov 2008 - 15:06
full screen would suck, since the french disc is 1.85:1
Title: Re: And Then There Were None / Ein unbekannter rechnet ab (Peter Collinson, 1974)
Post by: ecc on 11 Nov 2008 - 21:11
full screen would suck, since the french disc is 1.85:1

And its hard-matted so a fullscreen version would definitely be cropped, not opened up.  The Magnetic VHS release in the US had letterboxed credits before going to fullscreen while the later, much sharper and more colorful Charter Entertainment tape was all fullscreen so the credits sequence was cropped on the sides and on the bottom so most of the credits were unreadable.
Title: Re: And Then There Were None / Ein unbekannter rechnet ab (Peter Collinson, 1974)
Post by: fdsmedia on 14 Nov 2008 - 08:36
UK release from Optimum is now due on 23rd February.

Btw, where did you get this info from?

Edit: just found the amazon.co.uk pre-order page.

Actors: Oliver Reed, Elke Sommer, Stephane Audran, Herbert Lom, Charles Aznavour
Directors: Peter Collinson
Format: PAL
Region: Region 2 ( DVD formats.)
Number of discs: 1
Classification: 
Studio: Optimum Home Entertainment
DVD Release Date: 23 Feb 2009
Run Time: 102 minutes
Title: Re: And Then There Were None / Ein unbekannter rechnet ab (Peter Collinson, 1974)
Post by: Paul on 14 Nov 2008 - 08:40
UK release from Optimum is now due on 23rd February.

Btw, where did you get this info from?

Straight off of a schedule received by the sales company that deal with Optimum, mate.
Title: Re: And Then There Were None / Ein unbekannter rechnet ab (Peter Collinson, 1974)
Post by: fdsmedia on 14 Nov 2008 - 08:43
Thanks.

It's also available for pre-order at Play.com but they have the info all wrong, they think it's the 1945 version..

http://www.play.com/DVD/DVD/4-/8079134/And-Then-There-Were-None/Product.html
Title: Re: And Then There Were None / Ein unbekannter rechnet ab (Peter Collinson, 1974)
Post by: Paul on 14 Nov 2008 - 14:13
Sad news I'm afraid – had an updated schedule through this afternoon and the film has fallen off completely  :-[
Title: Re: And Then There Were None / Ein unbekannter rechnet ab (Peter Collinson, 1974)
Post by: Paul on 04 Nov 2009 - 08:05
Finally back on the schedule from Optimum and due for release on 11th January. It's certainly a lot more likely for it to come out this time as the artwork has also surfaced:

(http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/6104/000000oo000000o000010.jpg)
Title: Re: And Then There Were None / Ein unbekannter rechnet ab (Peter Collinson, 1974)
Post by: fdsmedia on 04 Nov 2009 - 08:10
Wow, great - finally! And the soundtrack will be out shortly from Digitmovies.

(http://www.screenarchives.com/gifs/large/12966.gif)
Title: Re: And Then There Were None / Ein unbekannter rechnet ab (Peter Collinson, 1974)
Post by: Paul on 04 Nov 2009 - 08:12
That soundtrack artwork is a lot nicer than that of the DVD.
Title: Re: And Then There Were None / Ein unbekannter rechnet ab (Peter Collinson, 1974)
Post by: ecc on 04 Nov 2009 - 09:52
The cover has the Studio Canal logo on it.  The French release was from Artedis but it is not listed in their catalog (which contains several Claude Chabrol films) most of which has been released in the US by Pathfinder Entertainment.
Title: Re: And Then There Were None / Ein unbekannter rechnet ab (Peter Collinson, 1974)
Post by: fdsmedia on 29 Jan 2010 - 17:01
Screenshot from the Optimum disc:

(http://i50.tinypic.com/28qt7ol.jpg)
Title: Re: And Then There Were None / Ein unbekannter rechnet ab (Peter Collinson, 1974)
Post by: Paul on 29 Jan 2010 - 18:18
Nice. I must get one of these.

Incidentally, Optimu have an eBay account and they sell a lot of their DVDs and Blu-rays off quite cheaply a while after release.

They're called cavalcade_dvds.
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Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 29 Jan 2010 - 20:50
Incidentally, Optimu have an eBay account and they sell a lot of their DVDs and Blu-rays off quite cheaply a while after release.

They're called cavalcade_dvds.
I didn't know that, nice one, it's good to know  :D
Title: Re: And Then There Were None / Ein unbekannter rechnet ab (Peter Collinson, 1974)
Post by: Paul on 30 Jan 2010 - 10:13
Incidentally, Optimu have an eBay account and they sell a lot of their DVDs and Blu-rays off quite cheaply a while after release.

They're called cavalcade_dvds.
I didn't know that, nice one, it's good to know  :D

No problem - I use them a lot - they're also on Amazon too.
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Post by: ecc on 30 Jan 2010 - 11:23
comparison of fdsmedia's Optimum cap and French DVD.
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Post by: ecc on 18 Feb 2010 - 15:14
Check out this odd Japanese poster for the film:
(http://www.jmshop.net/img/sositedaremo.jpg)
and these equally odd ones for the other Christie adaptations from around this time:
(http://www.jmshop.net/img/nilesatujinn.jpg)(http://www.jmshop.net/img/kurisutarusatujinn.jpg)(http://www.jmshop.net/img/chichukaisatujin.jpg)
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Post by: ecc on 20 Feb 2010 - 00:18
Optimum/Artedis comparison: http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDReviews49/and_then_there_were_none.htm (http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDReviews49/and_then_there_were_none.htm)
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Post by: ecc on 15 Jun 2011 - 07:33
Coming out from AWE on July 11: AND THEN THERE WERE NONE (http://www.anotherworldent.com/index.php?n=catalogue&s=show&type=&idem=c0883e35ef32c853)

English and Italian tracks and various subtitles.

A deleted scene is listed.  I wonder if it is from the Spanish version.
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Post by: ciavazzaro on 20 Jun 2011 - 12:56
Interesting this movie deserved a good dvd,i think too that the deleted scenes will be from the spanish version,but we will see this !
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Post by: ecc on 09 Feb 2017 - 12:37
Scorpion is planning a Blu-ray in the United States but there is also one from Divisa in Spain.  The box cover says it has both English and Spanish tracks and a running time of 108 minutes.  It may include the Spanish prologue.