Euro Cult Movie Forum => Books & Magazines => Topic started by: IL COMMISSARIO on 23 May 2008 - 23:36

Title: Mario Bava: All The Colors of the Dark (Tim Lucas)
Post by: IL COMMISSARIO on 23 May 2008 - 23:36
Holy shit, man...there's two USED copies on amazon; one for $350.00 and another for $800.00!!!! I don't care how gorgeous and well written it is, Lucas is out of his damn mind. :-* How many others here aside from Jonny were able to obtain one of these. I could have gotten one years ago on pre-order but I kept putting it off and putting it off....
Title: Re: Mario Bava: All The Colors of the Dark (Tim Lucas)
Post by: IL COMMISSARIO on 23 May 2008 - 23:37
I see it's listed for ONLY $260.00 at the VW site. :-\ I might could swing that. :-*
Title: Re: Mario Bava: All The Colors of the Dark (Tim Lucas)
Post by: Jonny on 23 May 2008 - 23:55
How many others here aside from Jonny were able to obtain one of these. I could have gotten one years ago on pre-order but I kept putting it off and putting it off....

Kev Coed has one, Marc does too.

Anyone who didn't pre-order and is now regretting it is a fool imho.

You had your chance and you blew it frankly.

Title: Re: Mario Bava: All The Colors of the Dark (Tim Lucas)
Post by: IL COMMISSARIO on 23 May 2008 - 23:57
If I could stop buying posters and lobby sets I could afford that $260.00 :-\
Title: Re: Mario Bava: All The Colors of the Dark (Tim Lucas)
Post by: Jonny on 24 May 2008 - 00:04
What I'm trying to say is...

If you'd have pre-ordered it all those years ago you'd have only spent $120 or so...
Title: Re: Mario Bava: All The Colors of the Dark (Tim Lucas)
Post by: IL COMMISSARIO on 24 May 2008 - 00:10
What I'm trying to say is...

If you'd have pre-ordered it all those years ago you'd have only spent $120 or so...

Yes, I know that, but at the time there were other things more important to me than this book. I don't see why the price skyrocketed like it did, though. I can understand wanting to be paid for your efforts but that kind of gouging is a bit much especially when it's still (apparently) in print.
Title: Re: Mario Bava: All The Colors of the Dark (Tim Lucas)
Post by: Ben Cobb on 24 May 2008 - 00:52
I'm a proud owner too.
Title: Re: Mario Bava: All The Colors of the Dark (Tim Lucas)
Post by: Kevin Coed on 24 May 2008 - 04:37

Yes, I know that, but at the time there were other things more important to me than this book. I don't see why the price skyrocketed like it did, though.

He underestimated how much it would cost to print it. Personally I think it's worth the $260 that it currently costs. Fortunately I only paid half of that.  :-\
Title: Re: Mario Bava: All The Colors of the Dark (Tim Lucas)
Post by: Paul on 24 May 2008 - 07:55
Count me as a "fool" who didn't pre-order it. I cam close to pre-ordering it fucking years ago but in the end I did not, and for a good few years thereafter was quite happy that I didn't. For a long time it seemed like the book was never coming out!

I love Bava. I respect Lucas as an authority on Bava, but I really don't regret buying the book, in all honesty. Then again, I've not even perused its pages. Had I actually looked at the book, maybe I would think differently, I don't know.
Title: Re: Mario Bava: All The Colors of the Dark (Tim Lucas)
Post by: Jonny on 24 May 2008 - 08:15
Well, like I said in my first post mate. Your only a fool if you didn't pre-order it when you had chance and are now regretting it. You're not regretting it so therefore you are not a fool.

 :-\
Title: Re: Mario Bava: All The Colors of the Dark (Tim Lucas)
Post by: IL COMMISSARIO on 24 May 2008 - 22:04
My post was in jest and I thought it came through that way. I didn't regret it then, because like Paul said, I didn't think the book was even coming out and there were more important things I wanted at the time, and I don't regret not getting it now which isn't to say I won't buy it somewhere down the road (if it's still around). If I want something, I'll get it, regardless of the price only a then $120+ dollar book on Bava wasn't a priority to me when it was announced. :P
Title: Re: Mario Bava: All The Colors of the Dark (Tim Lucas)
Post by: Bogan The Wanderer on 26 May 2008 - 05:21
I have it and like it.  It's absolutely massive and could have easily been split into two volumes, though Tim Lucas has offered a logical rationale elsewhere for not doing just that.  It actually does look like something which would have cost $250+ to print, so I can see why that's the current price (I pre-ordered, happily) but that's a big chunk of money.  I wish there were similar volumes around on sleazier topics, like the films of Jess Franco.  (Or the career of Rocco Siffredi).

  The artwork in the book is awesome, and you can spend a long while paging through it and drooling.  Recommended for anyone on the fence about it.
Title: Re: Mario Bava: All The Colors of the Dark (Tim Lucas)
Post by: Gary B. on 26 May 2008 - 06:20
I'm not a huge Bava fan besides SHOCK, RABID DOGS and BAY OF BLOOD (my stance was solidified after watching a lot of the movies in the recent Anchor Bay box sets), but would like to read this if the price ever dropped (future softcover edition?).
Title: Re: Mario Bava: All The Colors of the Dark (Tim Lucas)
Post by: Kevin Coed on 26 May 2008 - 06:39
I think Tim Lucas has said that there won't be a softcover edition. The book is so damn big and heavy I don't think it would be possible to bind it that way.

Has anybody here read the whole book yet? So far I've only read the chapters about my favourite films but I'll probably start reading it in it's entirety soon. 
Title: Re: Mario Bava: All The Colors of the Dark (Tim Lucas)
Post by: Ben Cobb on 26 May 2008 - 12:28
Has anybody here read the whole book yet? So far I've only read the chapters about my favourite films but I'll probably start reading it in it's entirety soon. 

Still not got round to reading any of it yet. Looked at the pictures a lot though! Would be nice to have each chapter as a small paperback to read on the bus.
Title: Re: Mario Bava: All The Colors of the Dark (Tim Lucas)
Post by: Jonny on 26 May 2008 - 13:21
I'm the same as Ben, haven't read any of it. The limited edition packages that Tim Lucas sold on eBay came with a pdf of the whole book. That'd be great for loading onto a laptop and reading on the go.
Title: Re: Mario Bava: All The Colors of the Dark (Tim Lucas)
Post by: Andrew Monroe on 09 Jun 2008 - 18:48
Seems to me I recall Lucas mentioning on one of his blogs the possibility of a text only reprint at some point. I`d definitely be interested in that if it happens, I`ve read a few of the chapters and bits `n`pieces here and there...the only comfortable way to read this book is at a table/desk. I`m glad I have it (bought it the last day it was going for $130), but aside from pulling it out to read up on a film I`ve just watched it`s too bulky for much casual brousing.
Title: Re: Mario Bava: All The Colors of the Dark (Tim Lucas)
Post by: bigandya on 17 Aug 2008 - 19:59
I bought it on pre-order when it was $180, and consider it worth every penny. And I've only browsed through rather than read it; its just too damned big and heavy to stick on your knee and read comfortably and relaxed. I wish someone would issue a digital version of it complete so those who want to could read it on their laptops.

A mate of mine bought 2 of the "extra limited edition" 10 Tim was auctioning off on Ebay with all the extra items - he bid $1000 on each of them and won numbers 1 and 2. We were both surprised to see that the bids didnt go much over $500 - and now someone's after $800 for an ordinary one on Amazon? Figure that'll sit there for a while...

Of course all the pre-ordered copies are also signed by Tim, which is an added bonus; I just wish he would number everything - I get real excited over signed AND numbered limited editions of things  ;D
Title: Re: Mario Bava: All The Colors of the Dark (Tim Lucas)
Post by: Distorty on 17 Aug 2008 - 23:19
I manged to swing this as a birthday christmas for two years present from my parents.

Proud proud owner.
Title: Re: Mario Bava: All The Colors of the Dark (Tim Lucas)
Post by: Jens Thomsen on 23 Aug 2008 - 12:14
I thought for years about pre-ordering it, but then there was so much talk about whether it would ever surface or not so I never came around doing so. I did hurry to buy one, though, when it was printed and Lucas announced that the price would go up by the end of last August. So I got it for around $160, I think, and luckily avoided customs too.

I haven't read the whole thing yet, but usually I will read the corresponding chapter when I've finished watching a Bava film. In my mind there is no doubt that I would buy the thing today even at the higher price if I hadn't pre-ordered in the last minute. It is well worth it if you are into Bava or the Italian genre film of the 1960's. The only regret is I didn't pre-order it sooner. A lot of my friends have their name in the "supporter pages" in the back of the book because they did and I am envious  ;D
Title: Re: Mario Bava: All The Colors of the Dark (Tim Lucas)
Post by: Kevin Coed on 23 Aug 2008 - 12:25
Change your name to that of someone listed in the book. Problem solved.
Title: Re: Mario Bava: All The Colors of the Dark (Tim Lucas)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 23 Aug 2008 - 13:06
I thought for years about pre-ordering it, but then there was so much talk about whether it would ever surface or not so I never came around doing so.
Likewise, there was all this will it won't it carry on i didn't get around to it.

Title: Re: Mario Bava: All The Colors of the Dark (Tim Lucas)
Post by: DjangoLi on 01 Sep 2008 - 16:15
Another proud owner here also, I pre-ordered when they had it sent to the printers. Like most people I also wondered when this would ever come out; I still remember seeing ads for it in Video Watchdog #1 or #2! I've always had a soft spot for Tim Lucas's work, going all the way back to the Gorezone'Fangoria days (my bible as a youth, and far more useful to me than any film class I ever attended.... ever.)

Tim has a gift for writing in a way that is accessable without being too academic and overly boring (much like Stephen Thrower, another genre writer I've always respected going back to the Eyeball fanzine and his tome on Lucio Fulci). Writers like this are a rare breed who write intelligently but don't retreat into the uber-boring realms of elitist academia that numbs the skull so much. Support them, for they really are few and far between.

The Bava book is worth every penny... I've read select chapters but it will be coming to Italy with me for a proper run-through. When you see the effort that's gone into it you really know why it costs so much. $250 (£125GBP) too much? Nope, I'd say it was a bargain. Bolt together 4 hard back books that size and it's not in any way overpriced. THEN factor in the wealth of research and effort and it's probably the bargain of the year. Any fans of Italian genre cinema would do well to start with this book... imho.

Congratulations to Tim and Donna Lucas for finally getting it finished!

Title: Re: Mario Bava: All The Colors of the Dark (Tim Lucas)
Post by: Peter on 01 Sep 2008 - 19:36
Tim has a gift for writing in a way that is accessable without being too academic and overly boring (much like Stephen Thrower, another genre writer I've always respected going back to the Eyeball fanzine and his tome on Lucio Fulci). Writers like this are a rare breed who write intelligently but don't retreat into the uber-boring realms of elitist academia that numbs the skull so much. Support them, for they really are few and far between.

I agree. Tim's writing is certainly good enough to keep your interest up, even he's writing about films with minor Bava involvement that you're unlikely to ever get the chance to see. In my case it was 170 pages until I got to a film that I've actually seen (I Vampiri) but I've throughly enjoyed it so far.
I'm making fairly slow progress since I'm watching the films before I read the corresponding chapter, but the next chapter (and film) up is one I've really been looking forward to, Blood & Black Lace.
Title: Re: Mario Bava: All The Colors of the Dark (Tim Lucas)
Post by: Distorty on 08 Sep 2008 - 05:51
The opening spread of the book, the red landscape. Does anyone have a JPG as high res as possible of this?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Mario Bava: All The Colors of the Dark (Tim Lucas)
Post by: Andrew Monroe on 08 Oct 2008 - 19:00
Has everyone read the recent blog entries about the first face-to-face meeting between Lamberto Bava and Lucas at the Cinema Wasteland con? There`s some great stories and photos.

http://www.videowatchdog.blogspot.com/
Title: Re: Mario Bava: All The Colors of the Dark (Tim Lucas)
Post by: Jonny on 08 Oct 2008 - 21:09
Has everyone read the recent blog entries about the first face-to-face meeting between Lamberto Bava and Lucas at the Cinema Wasteland con? There`s some great stories and photos.

[url]http://www.videowatchdog.blogspot.com/[/url]


Cheers for the heads up Andrew!

I usually check the watchblog once a week and I'd not looked at it this week so far. Seriously cool stuff.  :'(
Title: Re: Mario Bava: All The Colors of the Dark (Tim Lucas)
Post by: Jonny on 08 Oct 2008 - 21:23
I was just thinking something, Tim mentions about Mario Bava watching a screening of NOSFERATU via a cinema's roof opening up due to the hot weather. This sounds like something really weird - a cinema that has a roof that opens up to let in cool air? Sergio Martino's 'Morte sospetta di una minorenne' has a cinema with a roof that retracts in exactly this way. 
Title: Re: Mario Bava: All The Colors of the Dark (Tim Lucas)
Post by: Michael Blanton on 08 Oct 2008 - 22:01
This sounds like something really weird - a cinema that has a roof that opens up to let in cool air?


Tim notes at his blog (see Andrew's link) "On warm nights, the roof of this theater rolled back to let in the cool night air..."


Instead of AC, apparently they open the roof at night when it cools down.  Must be an Italian thing. 
Title: Re: Mario Bava: All The Colors of the Dark (Tim Lucas)
Post by: Stephen Grimes on 08 Oct 2008 - 22:37
Instead of AC, apparently they open the roof at night when it cools down.  Must be an Italian thing. 
You can see this in full effect in Sergio Martino's SUSPECTED DEATH OF A MINOR during a chase scene that ends up on the roof of a Milan cinema (during a showing of Ercoli's KILLER COP,i think?),a pretty amazing sight.
Title: Re: Mario Bava: All The Colors of the Dark (Tim Lucas)
Post by: Stephen Grimes on 08 Oct 2008 - 23:01
Infact come to think of it i was at a club in Ibiza back in the very early 90's where a large part of the roof slide back to let in the early morning sun,very surreal experience especially in that tripped out,debauched environment.
Title: Re: Mario Bava: All The Colors of the Dark (Tim Lucas)
Post by: MarcMorris on 09 Oct 2008 - 10:22
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I was just thinking something, Tim mentions about Mario Bava watching a screening of NOSFERATU via a cinema's roof opening up due to the hot weather. This sounds like something really weird - a cinema that has a roof that opens up to let in cool air?


The Lyceum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyceum_Theatre,_London) in London's Aldwych has this too. I used to go clubbing there back in the 80s. When it got too hot and smoky the roof opened up.
Title: Re: Mario Bava: All The Colors of the Dark (Tim Lucas)
Post by: Distorty on 03 Nov 2008 - 21:25
Infact come to think of it i was at a club in Ibiza back in the very early 90's where a large part of the roof slide back to let in the early morning sun,very surreal experience especially in that tripped out,debauched environment.

I used to hate the sun coming up and getting into the parties in my drug taking days. I always wished they could black out the windows and we could party all day without knowing.

Title: Re: Mario Bava: All The Colors of the Dark (Tim Lucas)
Post by: Jonny on 16 Jul 2009 - 15:40
Video Watchdog are currently having a sale which sees the Bava book with $100 off and is now priced at $150...

Video Watchdog - Sale (http://www.videowatchdog.com/home/specials/index.html)

(http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/8616/150bava.jpg)
Title: Re: Mario Bava: All The Colors of the Dark (Tim Lucas)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 16 Jul 2009 - 16:26
Video Watchdog are currently having a sale which sees the Bava book with $100 off and is now priced at $150...

Video Watchdog - Sale ([url]http://www.videowatchdog.com/home/specials/index.html[/url])

([url]http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/8616/150bava.jpg[/url])

Nice one Jonny, might have to sell some stuff to get this.
Title: Re: Mario Bava: All The Colors of the Dark (Tim Lucas)
Post by: Kevin Coed on 16 Jul 2009 - 16:29
And, don't forget, both mine and Jonny's names appear in it. That's got to be considered additional value!
Title: Re: Mario Bava: All The Colors of the Dark (Tim Lucas)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 16 Jul 2009 - 16:30
And, don't forget, both mine and Jonny's names appear in it. That's got to be considered additional value!
I don't want it now
Title: Re: Mario Bava: All The Colors of the Dark (Tim Lucas)
Post by: Kevin Coed on 16 Jul 2009 - 16:34
Why don't you change your name to my name? Then you can be in it too!
Title: Re: Mario Bava: All The Colors of the Dark (Tim Lucas)
Post by: Michael Blanton on 16 Jul 2009 - 18:14
And, don't forget, both mine and Jonny's names appear in it. That's got to be considered additional value!

I can understand Jonny's name being in there, but yours? :-\
Title: Re: Mario Bava: All The Colors of the Dark (Tim Lucas)
Post by: Kevin Coed on 16 Jul 2009 - 20:12
And, don't forget, both mine and Jonny's names appear in it. That's got to be considered additional value!

I can understand Jonny's name being in there, but yours? :-\

Is your name in it? No? FUCK YOU!!!!  ::)
Title: Re: Mario Bava: All The Colors of the Dark (Tim Lucas)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 16 Jul 2009 - 22:15
Why don't you change your name to my name? Then you can be in it too!
splendid idea :-\
Title: Re: Mario Bava: All The Colors of the Dark (Tim Lucas)
Post by: Michael Blanton on 16 Jul 2009 - 23:16
And, don't forget, both mine and Jonny's names appear in it. That's got to be considered additional value!

I can understand Jonny's name being in there, but yours? :-\

Is your name in it? No? FUCK YOU!!!!  ::)
Once I heard your name was in it, I asked to Tim to have mine removed.  Apparently, he granted my request.  :-X
Title: Re: Mario Bava: All The Colors of the Dark (Tim Lucas)
Post by: Bogan The Wanderer on 17 Jul 2009 - 11:46
Mine's in there too.  Fuck it cost a lot of $$ to get it in there!  :-\ :-*
Title: Re: Mario Bava: All The Colors of the Dark (Tim Lucas)
Post by: Paul on 17 Jul 2009 - 12:03
And, don't forget, both mine and Jonny's names appear in it. That's got to be considered additional value!

Shit, they'll be giving the pair of you your own reality TV show next.
Title: Re: Mario Bava: All The Colors of the Dark (Tim Lucas)
Post by: Jonny on 17 Jul 2009 - 12:13

Shit, they'll be giving the pair of you your own reality TV show next.

It'll be a bit like The Apprentice. Instead of saying "You're FIRED!" we'll say "You're FUCKED!" and Kev will dip his cock on their drinks when their not looking...
Title: Re: Mario Bava: All The Colors of the Dark (Tim Lucas)
Post by: Paul on 17 Jul 2009 - 12:49

Shit, they'll be giving the pair of you your own reality TV show next.

It'll be a bit like The Apprentice. Instead of saying "You're FIRED!" we'll say "You're FUCKED!" and Kev will dip his cock on their drinks when their not looking...

Still, I'd rather get caught putting my cock in someone's drink than have just one tooth in my whole mouth.
Title: Re: Mario Bava: All The Colors of the Dark (Tim Lucas)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 17 Jul 2009 - 13:31

Shit, they'll be giving the pair of you your own reality TV show next.

It'll be a bit like The Apprentice. Instead of saying "You're FIRED!" we'll say "You're FUCKED!" and Kev will dip his cock on their drinks when their not looking...

Still, I'd rather get caught putting my cock in someone's drink than have just one tooth in my whole mouth.
Who's only got one tooth?
Title: Re: Mario Bava: All The Colors of the Dark (Tim Lucas)
Post by: gnorthcott on 12 Sep 2011 - 21:11
I have a bit of cash burning a hole in my pocket,and im on the fence about purchasing the book.can some people give honest feedback about whether it is actually worth the price tag.im sure the book is awesome but damn $290  :o
Feedback desperately wanted
Title: Re: Mario Bava: All The Colors of the Dark (Tim Lucas)
Post by: Bogan The Wanderer on 22 Oct 2011 - 00:58
If you're still debating it, yeah, I'd say it's worth it.  I had a friend over at my house a couple of weeks ago who had heard of the book but never seen it, and after paging through my copy he said "I should really get this, it's pretty fantastic.  Is it still available?".  The book is basically everything you could ever want to know about Bava's films, his history, behind-the-scenes anecdotes, analysis of the movies, interviews with cast and crew, the works, all very heavily illustrated with probably the most extensive and nicely reproduced set of Eurocult-related stills, lobby cards and poster art you'll ever find in a book.  If you sat down and read the book properly from cover to cover it'd probably take the better part of a month.  That said (and I think others have mentioned this) the one possible drawback is that the book really is almost too big to enjoyably read or handle.  Proper effort is required to lift the book up with two hands, and it's cumbersome to read in one's lap.  The book should really have been a two or three volume set (and I recall author Tim Lucas was going in that direction at one point but was talked out of it).  The size of it - it really is fucking enormous - means that it's likely a book you'll dip into every so often rather than sitting down and reading it cover to cover like most other Eurocult books you might own.  Anyway - it's a serious chunk of money (you could probably put the same amount of dough towards a good trip somewhere) but if the book eventually sells out you'll probably be kicking yourself for years after if you don't snap it up.  The Jess Franco Obsession book was pretty heavily coveted for years by folks who never bought it (before it eventually turned up on the usual cult torrent sites) and this Bava book is something like four or five times the size and detail of that one, with better printing and full colour throughout.  If you're seriously devoted to Bava or strongly interested in boosting your knowledge of Italian or Eurocult cinema you should probably pick it up.
Title: Re: Mario Bava: All The Colors of the Dark (Tim Lucas)
Post by: Jonny on 09 Dec 2011 - 07:29
$100 off!

That's $190 inc shipping to the UK...

Limited time sale http://us2.campaign-archive1.com/?u=18ff72af283ea36c5947daaa8&id=a5186fb789

ENDS TOMORROW, SATURDAY 10th December!
Title: Re: Mario Bava: All The Colors of the Dark (Tim Lucas)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 09 Dec 2011 - 13:59
Shame I haven't got the funds.
Title: Re: Mario Bava: All The Colors of the Dark (Tim Lucas)
Post by: gnorthcott on 09 Dec 2011 - 16:24
Still a lot of money though.Damn im tempted,I had a hundred quid in my paypal account that i have just blown,would have been nearly there  ???