Euro Cult Movie Forum => Gialli => Topic started by: Jonny on 10 Jul 2007 - 11:23

Title: Don't Torture a Duckling / Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: Jonny on 10 Jul 2007 - 11:23
Starring Florinda Bolkan, Marc Porel, Irene Papas, Tomas Milian, Barbara Bouchet, George Wilson.

After the disappearance of a young boy a small town in remote Southern Italy is thrown into turmoil as, after four days of extensive searching, no sign of the boy can be found. The only clue to the child’s whereabouts comes in the form of a ransom note sent to the village priest Don Alberto (Marc Porel). As the police are going over the details of the note a newspaper reporter, Andrea Martelli (Tomas Milian), notices that there’s something flawed about the ransom demand, specifically that the money being demanded by the would be kidnapper is ridiculously low. The money is sent to the location as per the demand in the note and sure enough Giuseppe, the village idiot, is caught picking up the money. Soon the body of the boy is found and Giuseppe cracks and admits to making the ransom demands but denies killing the boy, saying he merely found the body in the woods. Even though Giuseppe has more or less confessed the chief of the murder investigation starts to have doubts as to whether he actually did murder the boy and soon enough the corpse of another young boy is found…
An often overlooked little gem from Lucio Fulci. Though most would associate his work with over the top gore drenched set pieces what we are treated to here is a thoroughly impressive and very competently made Giallo, something he would repeat 5 years later with the equally notable ‘Murder to the Tune of the Seven Black Notes’ (1977), which as well as having Marc Porel in the cast, albeit in a much smaller role, interestingly features a character’s demise almost shot-for-shot identical to one featured in ‘Duckling’, though I won’t go into great detail for fear of spoiling the film for anyone who hasn’t seen it. Let’s just say it involves a face bashing against rocks on a cliff face…
Good performances all round from a cast of familiar faces including a very easy on the eyes Barbara Bouchet (her opening scene is possibly most jaw dropping sight I have ever seen..) and the ever excellent Florinda Bolkan, putting in the best performance out of the entire cast as Maciara the village witch. Marc Porel and Tomas Milian are very good too, though Milian’s character is a far cry from his Nico Giraldi roles so don’t expect any 'Cop In Blue Jeans' type antics from him in this one!
Apparently this was Fulci’s favourite of his own films and I tend to agree with him, the die-hard gorehounds probably won’t agree though and will still covet 'Zombi 2' or 'The Beyond' as the Fulci masterworks but I’ll take ‘Duckling…’ and ‘…Seven Black Notes’ over any of the gory stuff anyday.
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling/Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: Paul on 10 Jul 2007 - 11:28
I think this is a truly great giallo - and it's a toss up between this and LIZARD IN A WOMAN'S SKIN for my favourite Fulci flick. Everything about this film transcends generic conventions - location, subject matter, etc. It's a really great film.
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling/Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: The Hunchback on 11 Jul 2007 - 19:19

Apparently this was Fulci’s favourite of his own films and I tend to agree with him,



I've learned that unless you hear it from the man himself not to take what other people "said" so seriously.

Tomas Milian, in an interview, said that "Four of the Apocalypse" was Fulci's favorite.
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling/Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: Jonny on 11 Jul 2007 - 19:27

Apparently this was Fulci’s favourite of his own films and I tend to agree with him,



I've learned that unless you hear it from the man himself not to take what other people "said" so seriously.

Tomas Milian, in an interview, said that "Four of the Apocalypse" was Fulci's favorite.

Absolutely true, that's why I said 'apparently'  :D

Plus I'd never take anything Tomas Milian said seriously either!  :-\
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling/Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: The Hunchback on 11 Jul 2007 - 19:29

Apparently this was Fulci’s favourite of his own films and I tend to agree with him,



I've learned that unless you hear it from the man himself not to take what other people "said" so seriously.

Tomas Milian, in an interview, said that "Four of the Apocalypse" was Fulci's favorite.

Absolutely true, that's why I said 'apparently'  :D




AH!


I'll be seeing this very soon. Got it in line from a rental online shop.
Unfortunatly I had a sneaky look at the very end on youtube. :-[

I'll try to forget it.
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling/Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: IL COMMISSARIO on 11 Jul 2007 - 19:45
I passed over this at least a dozen times. I've got a huge upcoming Giallo purchase in line very soon.
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling/Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: Jonny on 11 Jul 2007 - 21:07
If this grab doesn't inspire you guys to check out 'Don't Torture a Duckling' asap I don't know what will!

(http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3354/duckda1.jpg)
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling/Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: IL COMMISSARIO on 11 Jul 2007 - 21:12
I'm probably the only one here who hasn't seen it. It's just been pushed to the top of the PURCHASE PILE!
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling/Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: vigilanteforce on 11 Jul 2007 - 23:15
If this grab doesn't inspire you guys to check out 'Don't Torture a Duckling' asap I don't know what will!

([url]http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3354/duckda1.jpg[/url])

That seduction scene is a classic Johny! Its worth buying the disc for that scene alone! The rest of the movie is excellent as well!
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling/Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: dracucarr on 12 Jul 2007 - 13:04
Those of you who haven't seen this one you are in for a treat I assure you  ::). Barbara Bouchet is very sleazy and upon first viewing I found her earlier scenes uncomfortable to watch because I didn't know where the plot was going. The real winner though is Florinda Balkan and what really impresses me everytime I see it is that we see how truly great an actress she is. Covered in dirt and rags she wasn't all glammed up and used as an arousal tool and this is why I loved Fulci here. One scene in particular really is quite horrifying and with so much emotional depth to it this isn't your typical giallo movie. I can't recommend this enough. Child killing is interesting in these films and I point towards Who Saw Her Die in what I think is also an underappreciated film. I love the scores to both of these films.
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling/Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: Paul on 12 Jul 2007 - 13:09
I was bigging up WHO SAW HER DIE? on another thread - it's an exceptional gialli and, as with DON'T TORTURE A DUCKLING, one of my favourite gialli.
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling/Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: dracucarr on 12 Jul 2007 - 13:11
It really is excellent isn't it! Glad to see we both enjoy these two!
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling/Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: Peter Neal on 14 Aug 2007 - 09:41
One of my alltime genre faves and another Euro horror desperatedly in need to be discovered and cherished outside the "cult movie scene"! ;)

During my years in filmschool I was somewhat halfconsciously dreaming of adapting this at some point in my later "career" as a Northern European set remake. 8)
Well, film isn't that much on my agenda any more these days, but my appreciation of "Duckling" hasn't faded away.

As far as it being Fulci's fave is concerend: I remember the man naming it in his very last intereview in Fango in '95 as his personal favourite. ;)
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling/Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 14 Aug 2007 - 13:48
As far as it being Fulci's fave is concerend: I remember the man naming it in his very last intereview in Fango in '95 as his personal favourite. ;)
I though "Beatrice Cenci" was Fulci's favourite out of his films.
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling/Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: Richard C on 15 Aug 2007 - 12:43
I enjoyed this one (picked up recently as part of the Blue Underground reissues). Also picked up a French boot (a very poor quality one at that) of this at a car boot sale:

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1068/864210817_0a995107a2.jpg)

I'd say this was a fairly recent video (late 90s perhaps) but there doesn't seem to be any dates on it so I can't be sure.

Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling/Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: Peter Neal on 15 Aug 2007 - 17:39
As far as it being Fulci's fave is concerend: I remember the man naming it in his very last intereview in Fango in '95 as his personal favourite. ;)
I though "Beatrice Cenci" was Fulci's favourite out of his films.

Errr...I'm too lazy digging tunnels through my collection to find that old Fango, so I suggest for the benefit of the doubt that both, "Duckling" and "Beatrice", were dear to his heart. ;D
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling/Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: The Hunchback on 24 Sep 2007 - 06:44
You can see this for free on youtube ::)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWYiT3RqUxs&mode=related&search=
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling/Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: Paul on 24 Sep 2007 - 08:29
The only thing worse that watching a film on a computer screen is havign to trwal through 11 parts of a film on a computer screen!  :D

Seriously, this film is a classic - the Blue Underground disc can be had cheap from DVD Pacific.  ::)
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling/Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: The Hunchback on 24 Sep 2007 - 18:58


Seriously, this film is a classic - the Blue Underground disc can be had cheap from DVD Pacific.  ::)

Well some of us can't blindly buy stuff.
I saw the movie last night and I'm glad I saved my money.
It's good but I wouldn't watch it again.
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling/Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: Paul on 24 Sep 2007 - 19:04
Point taken about the cash issue, though I still couldn't imagine anything worse than watching a film in 11 parts - it's bad enough watching a flick on TV, when there are commercials!
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling/Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: death_proof_reg on 24 Sep 2007 - 19:20
Fiver new on amazon.co.uk

Gunna have to make a new account and get it asap
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling/Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: Jonny on 24 Sep 2007 - 19:22
Fiver new on amazon.co.uk

Gunna have to make a new account and get it asap

Can't go wrong for a fiver reg, pocket money prices.  ::)
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling/Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: death_proof_reg on 24 Sep 2007 - 19:28
haha exactly, I've been looking for bargains and affordable prices.

I'd just much rather have the dvd than watch on youtube, if I had watched Suspiria on youtube it just wouldnt have been the same...
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling/Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: Stephen Grimes on 24 Sep 2007 - 19:31
Fiver new on amazon.co.uk

Gunna have to make a new account and get it asap
Buy it.It's a great film with a great cast,i'd love to see it in Italian though with English subs as the English track lets it down in places ie.the boys voices.
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling/Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: Paul on 24 Sep 2007 - 19:33
It's definitely a classic of the genre, simply because it dares to be different... and it's Fulci... and Milian's in it... and the lovely Barbara Bouchet... and Florind...

Just buy it, Reg. Hunchback, if you ever get some spare cash, just buy it and watch it one go  :D
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling/Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: The Hunchback on 25 Sep 2007 - 01:15
Point taken about the cash issue, though I still couldn't imagine anything worse than watching a film in 11 parts - it's bad enough watching a flick on TV, when there are commercials!



Point taken but at least it wasn't cut unlike on television.
And my computer runs at a decent speed so the videos loaded rather quickly.
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling/Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: IL COMMISSARIO on 25 Sep 2007 - 03:44
As far as it being Fulci's fave is concerend: I remember the man naming it in his very last intereview in Fango in '95 as his personal favourite. ;)
I though "Beatrice Cenci" was Fulci's favourite out of his films.

I think he says this in the BEYOND TERROR book or SPAGHETTI NIGHTMARES that BEATRICE CENCI was his favorite and how devastated he was when it didn't perform well.
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling/Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 25 Sep 2007 - 07:16
As far as it being Fulci's fave is concerend: I remember the man naming it in his very last intereview in Fango in '95 as his personal favourite. ;)
I though "Beatrice Cenci" was Fulci's favourite out of his films.

I think he says this in the BEYOND TERROR book or SPAGHETTI NIGHTMARES that BEATRICE CENCI was his favorite and how devastated he was when it didn't perform well.
Cheers for confirming that, i new it was Cenci
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling/Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: VogNyhmn on 26 Sep 2007 - 20:28
Great flick. Just bought the Blue Underground DVD a couple months ago. I still need to watch that version though.
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling/Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 26 Sep 2007 - 21:39
Great flick. Just bought the Blue Underground DVD a couple months ago. I still need to watch that version though.
One of my pride and joy's back in the day was my old dutch Duckling tape ::)

sold it now mind.
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling/Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: Paul on 26 Sep 2007 - 21:39
Great flick. Just bought the Blue Underground DVD a couple months ago. I still need to watch that version though.
One of my pride and joy's back in the day was my old dutch Duckling tape ::)

sold it now mind.

Print was pretty horrible though, wasn't it?
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling/Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 26 Sep 2007 - 21:40
Great flick. Just bought the Blue Underground DVD a couple months ago. I still need to watch that version though.
One of my pride and joy's back in the day was my old dutch Duckling tape ::)

sold it now mind.

Print was pretty horrible though, wasn't it?
Wasn't that bad, at least it was a compromise and not fully panned and scanned
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling/Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: IL COMMISSARIO on 26 Sep 2007 - 21:47
Still haven't watched this yet as it is still unopened.  ???
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling/Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: death_proof_reg on 26 Sep 2007 - 21:50
When I'm making enough money I'm gonna buy loads of dvd's at one time once a month and have loads to watch and loads left unopened etc.

I swear you guys make me insanely jealous sometimes  :)
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling/Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: Kevin Coed on 27 Sep 2007 - 10:25
At present I've got about 600 unwatched. It's fucking retarded.
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling/Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: Paul on 27 Sep 2007 - 10:39
At present I've got about 600 unwatched. It's fucking retarded.


600? Fucking hell. I have absolutely no idea how many unwatched DVDs I have. I've not got them catalogued and don't have time to count them.  :-\
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling/Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: Kevin Coed on 27 Sep 2007 - 10:55
656 to be precise. I'm not buying much at the moment though so that number should drop quite a bit over the next year.
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling/Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 28 Sep 2007 - 11:20
At present I've got about 600 unwatched. It's fucking retarded.


600? Fucking hell. I have absolutely no idea how many unwatched DVDs I have. I've not got them catalogued and don't have time to count them.  :-\
Don't worry Richard, i'm sure Paul has well over over 1000 unwatched dvd's! :-\

"I've got one of those but not watched it yet!"
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling/Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: Paul on 28 Sep 2007 - 11:34
656 to be precise. I'm not buying much at the moment though so that number should drop quite a bit over the next year.

10 more and you can do your satanic-looking signature pic proud  :D
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling/Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: Peter on 25 Dec 2007 - 16:54
Just finished re-watching this for the first time in a couple of years and it's still a firm fave. I really makes me wish Fulci would have directed a few more gialli during the first half of the 70s.
Like in Lizard, everything just came together in here. Direction, script and cinematography are all well above average. The cast is great (Milian, Bouchet, Bolkan, now that's an all-star line-up!) and the rural setting is really different.
I'm happy with my old Anchor Bay dvd, but I certainly would double-dip if a SE came about. I certainly wouldn't mind the Italian language track, a trailer and a docu with Milian, Bouchet, Bolkan. Doubt that that'll ever happen though, especially now that it's been re-released by BU. That disc is just a straight port of the old AB disc isn't it?
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling/Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: Kevin Coed on 25 Dec 2007 - 17:36
That disc is just a straight port of the old AB disc isn't it?

Yes, sir. It's due for an upgrade, it's one of the earliest DVDs I've got and the mastering has improved tenfold since then.
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling/Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: LANZETTA on 23 Jun 2008 - 14:31
Let’s just say it involves a face bashing against rocks on a cliff face…

Just watched this for the first time.

The falling dummy looked nowhere near real enough so i found that laughably tacky. :o

Otherwise the film is excellent. :D
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling/Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: Michael Blanton on 23 Jun 2008 - 15:26
Like in Lizard, everything just came together in here.

LIZARD & DUCKLING are two of my favorite Gialli.  ;)   :P

And the settings and atmosphere are completely polar opposites.  Mod ,swinging, anything-goes, late 60s (actually early 70s), cosmopolitan London for LIZARD and rural, superstitious, close-minded, insular, Catholic (with its ancient paganism just below the surface) Italy.  But both films pack a wallop.  ::)

The one thing, however, that does drive me crazy >:(  in LIZARD is Stanley Baker's inane, insane, non-stop whistling.  :-[
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling / Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: jack on 07 Oct 2008 - 16:13
Doesnt Florinda Balkan do a great job of internalizing her acting? You can see the emotions brewing under the surface and she uses her eyes to great effect when doing this, especially in Lizard in Womans Skin and Duckling.
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling / Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 08 Oct 2008 - 21:51
Florinda Balkan
A place in eastern europe.
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling / Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: Michael Blanton on 08 Oct 2008 - 21:57
Florinda Balkan
A place in eastern europe.

hehe  :-\
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling / Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: Outlaw Josey on 25 Jan 2009 - 19:03
i love this movie.

--the vigilante scene with maciara is one of my favorite scenes in any movie ever. especially with the contrasting rock music playing and the looks on the actors faces as they approach....

--riz ortolani's score, especially the scene with bouchet seducing michele....it has such an AMAZING vibe that is indispensable for the scene....type in barbara bouchet non si sevizia un paperino into youtube to view this scene...i dl'ed the soundtrack, but i couldn't find that piece of music on it???!  :-[ anyway, i love that part.

also "malvena too will rest in paradise" and the subsequent slow motion montage  ;)

and perhaps most of all...the location. ESPECIALLY THE GIANT ELEVATED ROADWAY

perhaps my FAVORITE use of architecture in giallo's. does anybody know WHERE that is? that is crazy. a huge modern roadway amidst a rustic southern italian mountain village....the opening shots are breathtaking, as maciara digs in the ground for skeletons while that is in the background...amazing contrast.
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling / Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: Stephen Grimes on 25 Jan 2009 - 19:14
perhaps my FAVORITE use of architecture in giallo's. does anybody know WHERE that is? .

Monte S.Angelo,check out Polla's posts about it in this (http://www.lovelockandload.net/forum/index.php?topic=371.30) thread.
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling / Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: K August on 25 Jan 2009 - 21:16
Need to revisit this one again. I remember being really freaked out by the locals. 

Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling / Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: Michael Blanton on 25 Jan 2009 - 22:35
I remember being really freaked out by the locals.

Oh, yeah!  The insular, clannish - fear of the outsider - vibe is palpable in this film.  :-*
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling / Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: Outlaw Josey on 27 Jan 2009 - 08:27
Quote
Monte S.Angelo,check out Polla's posts about it in this thread

thanks!  :P i've been searching for the roadway for a long time, but couldn't find it. i wouldn't mind taking a vacation to that place and wandering around the countryside...

does anyone know what that weird singing was during the film? when it was quiet, there was a distant womans voice singing...such an incredible atmosphere...was this a part of ortolani's soundtrack or was it something else? i love that little tune that the voice is singing.....
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling/Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: Jonny on 22 Jan 2011 - 10:29
Yes, sir. It's due for an upgrade, it's one of the earliest DVDs I've got and the mastering has improved tenfold since then.


Has anyone seen the Italian DVD from Medusa? Was that a new transfer?

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_KhIa2K_--dQ/S0vDjypo9cI/AAAAAAAAA0E/fscRz1n6fus/s320/seviziapapero.jpg)
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling/Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: Luca Canali on 22 Jan 2011 - 11:11
Yes, sir. It's due for an upgrade, it's one of the earliest DVDs I've got and the mastering has improved tenfold since then.


Has anyone seen the Italian DVD from Medusa? Was that a new transfer?

([url]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_KhIa2K_--dQ/S0vDjypo9cI/AAAAAAAAA0E/fscRz1n6fus/s320/seviziapapero.jpg[/url])


Thanks for pointing this release out, Jonny. I'd be up for double dipping and getting it just for that cover but also according to KultVideo the disc contains deleted scenes too. Is anyone able to verify this or knows what those scenes are, please?
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling / Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: demented_uk on 22 Jan 2011 - 15:59
I've got this, bought it to potentially fan dub but haven't even got round to looking at it.  Will give it a look in a bit and will feedback.
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling / Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: Jonny on 22 Jan 2011 - 16:02
I've got this, bought it to potentially fan dub but haven't even got round to looking at it.  Will give it a look in a bit and will feedback.

Nice one Oli.  :'(
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling / Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: demented_uk on 22 Jan 2011 - 17:15
Just gave it a quick spin.  The deleted scene is about 30 seconds long and appears to be from the opening credits.  It features a young boy using a slingshot to hit a lizard.  What is it with Italian film makers and their dislike for lizards?

Here are some screenshots from the DVD (a DVD-9), most of which include the beautiful Barbara Bouchet:

(http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/5171/vlcsnap2011012218h05m30.th.png) (http://img822.imageshack.us/i/vlcsnap2011012218h05m30.png/)
(http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/4316/vlcsnap2011012218h05m49.th.png) (http://img263.imageshack.us/i/vlcsnap2011012218h05m49.png/)
(http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/733/vlcsnap2011012218h05m56.th.png) (http://img248.imageshack.us/i/vlcsnap2011012218h05m56.png/)
(http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/6448/vlcsnap2011012218h06m18.th.png) (http://img96.imageshack.us/i/vlcsnap2011012218h06m18.png/)

I am not sure how it stacks up the US release without checking. Surely as it is PAL it has an advantage over the outdated Anchor Bay transfer?  Perhaps Eric might be able to offer some thoughts?
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling / Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: Luca Canali on 22 Jan 2011 - 18:35
Many thanks for the feedback mate. I think I'll double dip on this then. I've never really had any gripes about the Anchor Bay transfer but that Medusa cover is great plus I'd much prefer to watch this in Italian.
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling / Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: cannibal man on 26 Jan 2011 - 00:57
Just gave it a quick spin.  The deleted scene is about 30 seconds long and appears to be from the opening credits.  It features a young boy using a slingshot to hit a lizard.  What is it with Italian film makers and their dislike for lizards?

Here are some screenshots from the DVD (a DVD-9), most of which include the beautiful Barbara Bouchet:

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I am not sure how it stacks up the US release without checking. Surely as it is PAL it has an advantage over the outdated Anchor Bay transfer?  Perhaps Eric might be able to offer some thoughts?



is there not a lizard scene missing from profondo rosso.
i remember having it.
it was in a slip case u remember.
looked like a nineties release.

i have the greek dont torture a duckling vhs.
must check to see if that scene is missing u mention aarron.
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling / Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: Kevin Coed on 26 Jan 2011 - 05:19

is there not a lizard scene missing from profondo rosso.
i remember having it.
it was in a slip case u remember.
looked like a nineties release.


What the fucking hell are you babbling on about man?
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling / Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 26 Jan 2011 - 09:18
must check to see if that scene is missing u mention aarron.
I haven't mentioned anything Darren.
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling / Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: cannibal man on 26 Jan 2011 - 13:24

is there not a lizard scene missing from profondo rosso.
i remember having it.
it was in a slip case u remember.
looked like a nineties release.


What the fucking hell are you babbling on about man?
so not worry kev u will get used to my ramblings mate.
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling / Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: Paul on 26 Jan 2011 - 13:38

is there not a lizard scene missing from profondo rosso.
i remember having it.
it was in a slip case u remember.
looked like a nineties release.


What the fucking hell are you babbling on about man?
so not worry kev u will get used to my ramblings mate.

Really? Have you got anyone that will back that statement up?  :-\
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling / Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: Kevin Coed on 26 Jan 2011 - 15:33

so not worry kev u will get used to my ramblings mate.

Forget about it. I remember when I had a drug problem too.
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling / Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: vaultkeeper on 12 Mar 2011 - 16:49
I really look forward to this release, hope they will use a new transfer and English subs based on the Italian dialouge.
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling / Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: MarcMorris on 15 May 2011 - 18:07
Any feedback on what is the best looking transfer? Anchor Bay (NTSC) or Medusa (PAL)?
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling / Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: Baruch Jorgell on 15 May 2011 - 23:15
The Medusa version is much better-looking to me... The Anchor Bay transfer doesn't hold up too well.
But the film is in italian only, and slightly cut (lizard scene) with out of synch sound on the following scene (it's short)...
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling / Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: JAMIOUSE on 23 Aug 2011 - 13:15
Do we know if the Shameless release is delayed or not? There hasn't been any news about it.
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling / Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: gnorthcott on 23 Aug 2011 - 21:42
Not sure,i wonder how it will compare to previous discs
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling / Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: MarcMorris on 24 Aug 2011 - 11:10
As far as I'm aware there's no delay, although the stock was destroyed it's been re-pressed and will make street date.
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling / Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: JAMIOUSE on 25 Aug 2011 - 11:07
Midday Thursday and HMV is still showing ' Item not yet issued by supplier', which for HMV is unheard of.
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling / Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: MarcMorris on 25 Aug 2011 - 11:17
It's definitely due out on Monday. Some shops may not receive stock in time however.
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling / Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: bgart13 on 04 Sep 2011 - 07:37
No one's seen the Shameless disc yet? Hopefully some thoughts it'll show somewhere online soon.
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling / Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: Peter on 04 Sep 2011 - 09:45
I've got it. Haven't had time to check it properly yet, but at first glance the transfer looks similar to the Medusa disc and The Lizard scene is intact.
Here are a few screenshots from the AB, Medusa and Shameless discs. I had problems capturing exactly the same moment on the lower ones, but you get the gist.

Anchor Bay
(http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh166/coben1/vlcsnap-2011-09-04-12h50m07s236.png)

Medusa
(http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh166/coben1/Medua.png)

Shameless
(http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh166/coben1/Shameless.png)

Anchor Bay
(http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh166/coben1/vlcsnap-2011-09-04-12h50m51s136.png)

Medusa
(http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh166/coben1/Medusa2.png)

Shameless
(http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh166/coben1/Shameless2.png)
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling / Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: gnorthcott on 04 Sep 2011 - 13:35
looking good
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling / Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: Jonny on 04 Sep 2011 - 14:12
Nice one Pete!  :'(
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling / Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: bgart13 on 04 Sep 2011 - 18:33
Thanks, Pete.

(PS - I tried to reply earlier, but was told I had posted within 30 secs before...but I hadn't! Weirdsville...)
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling / Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 27 Jan 2014 - 23:00
In order

Richard [Riccardo] Cocciante - Rhythm (1971) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2fFEu6zJ4A#)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4P3XAFXpnw4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4P3XAFXpnw4)

Quei giorni insieme a te - Ornella Vanoni (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UPqyugEvJk#ws)
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling / Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: fenriz on 30 Jan 2014 - 09:22
Waiting for an HD upgrade, hope it will pop up for 2014!
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling / Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: djvaso on 27 Apr 2015 - 08:08
Torsten Kaiser from TLE Films posted on Conefacts.de forum image frames from SD master and new restored HD master for Blu-ray release.
(http://fs1.directupload.net/images/150426/md8rezd6.jpg)(http://fs1.directupload.net/images/150426/7odkq9v7.jpg)
(http://fs2.directupload.net/images/150426/ouao776e.jpg)(http://fs1.directupload.net/images/150426/rdz3qod5.jpg)
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling / Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 27 Apr 2015 - 10:52
Looks really nice.
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling / Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: Jonny on 27 Apr 2015 - 11:18
Yeah, looks good so far!
Title: Don't Torture a Duckling / Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: demented_uk on 27 Apr 2015 - 20:06
The Barbara Bouchet still sold it for me. Will definitely pick this one up..
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling / Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: the blob on 27 Apr 2015 - 21:38
Looks good. Let's hope '84 have someone competent doing the audio this time!
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling / Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: Jonny on 01 Oct 2015 - 17:57
Limited 'leather bound' edition, looks like it's going to be around 100 euro and has forced German subtitles on the English and Italian dubs (No English subs on the Italian track)

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1. Disc 1 (Blu-ray)
Bild: 2.35:1 24p 1080p Full HD
Ton: Deutsch DTS-HD MA 2.0, Englisch DTS-HD MA 1.0 mit festen dt. UT, Italienisch DTS-HD MA 1.0 mit festen dt. UT
Lauflänge: ca. 109 Min.
Bonus: Audiokommentar mit Marcus Stiglegger, Deutscher Trailer, Originaltrailer, Italienischer Vorspann, Italienische Abspann, Restaurationsvergleich, Slideshow

2. Disc 2 (DVD)
Bild: 2.35:1 16:9 PAL Widescreen
Ton: Deutsch Dolby Digital 2.0, Englisch Dolby Digital 2.0 mit festen dt. UT, Italienisch Dolby Digital 2.0 mit festen dt. UT
Lauflänge: ca. 104 Min.
Bonus: Audiokommentar mit Marcus Stiglegger, Deutscher Trailer, Originaltrailer, Italienischer Vorspann, Italienische Abspann, Restaurationsvergleich, Slideshow

3. Disc 3 (Bonus-DVD)
Interviews mit Kameramann Sergio D'Offizi und Cutter Bruno Micheli - Italienisch mit dt. UT.

4. Disc 4 (Soundtrack CD)

Art-Nr.: 8731MA
EAN: 4260207722297

Format: Leatherbook (aus Echtholz mit Holzschublade & Messinggriff, mit Echtleder, Tief- und Goldprägung, Lim 1250 Edition, ca. 23x18x5cm)
Discs: '84
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling / Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 01 Oct 2015 - 18:55
That's a handsome looking set  ::)
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling / Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: Peter on 02 Oct 2015 - 06:58
I would have love to pick this up for the film and the soundtrack, but at 100 euro and with forced German subtitles and no English subs on the Italian track, I'm going to have to give it a miss.
Have to say the all the duckling motifs in the artwork feels a bit strange as well considering that the paperino referred to in the original title is Donald Duck (not that they'd ever get permission to use him)
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling / Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: the blob on 02 Oct 2015 - 10:45
After the Seven Notes in Black release I'd be wary of spending that much on anything from '84 even without the forced subs without a proper full review of the PQ/AQ.
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling / Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: Dr Walpurgis on 02 Oct 2015 - 11:27
Would love to see a blu of this one, but €100? I'm out!
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling / Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: fenriz on 02 Oct 2015 - 15:09
Lovely set, will be cheaper for sure !
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling / Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: babybreese on 13 Dec 2015 - 15:26
DVD & BD compared....very nice
http://www.caps-a-holic.com/c.php?d1=6980&d2=6977 (http://www.caps-a-holic.com/c.php?d1=6980&d2=6977)

Hope this gets another release somewhere soon.
Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling / Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: demented_uk on 13 Dec 2015 - 16:37
Mine came last week and I watched it on Friday night. Picture quality is excellent and the packaging is nice, if a little over the top. Barbara Bouchet has never looked better.


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Title: Re: Don't Torture a Duckling / Non si sevizia un paperino (Lucio Fulci, 1972)
Post by: ScottC on 07 Oct 2016 - 20:59
Japanese Blu Ray coming in December. Looks to have English audio. Hopefully, the listed 1.78 aspect ratio is a misprint.

https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B01IQQQE5E/ref=pd_cp_74_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=PB267VM9X6E71GCFENYB (https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B01IQQQE5E/ref=pd_cp_74_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=PB267VM9X6E71GCFENYB)