Euro Cult Movie Forum => Exploitation, Sexploitation, War & Espionage, Dodgy Rip-Offs => Topic started by: Jay on 03 Jul 2008 - 09:17

Title: Caligula / Caligola (Tinto Brass/Bob Guccione ,1979)
Post by: Jay on 03 Jul 2008 - 09:17
Brass's movie has been passed fully uncut "18" in the UK with three versions to be released.

Jay
Title: Re: Caligula
Post by: MarcMorris on 03 Jul 2008 - 09:58
Arrow Films will be issuing it.
Title: Re: Caligula / Caligola (Tinto Brass/Bob Guccione ,1979)
Post by: bigandya on 11 Jul 2008 - 23:12
I imagine these will be the same 3 versions released in the US DVD boxed set?
Title: Re: Caligula / Caligola (Tinto Brass/Bob Guccione ,1979)
Post by: fdsmedia on 12 Jul 2008 - 07:17
Swedish company Noble have also announced a 3-disc release, due out in September.
Title: Re: Caligula / Caligola (Tinto Brass/Bob Guccione ,1979)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 12 Jul 2008 - 10:52
Brass's movie has been passed fully uncut "18" in the UK with three versions to be released.

Jay
Would the version with the hardcore scenes not make in an "R18"?
Title: Re: Caligula / Caligola (Tinto Brass/Bob Guccione ,1979)
Post by: Jonny on 12 Jul 2008 - 11:00
Apparently not, it's a regular 'in the high street shops' 18 certificate.
Title: Re: Caligula / Caligola (Tinto Brass/Bob Guccione ,1979)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 12 Jul 2008 - 11:03
Apparently not, it's a regular 'in the high street shops' 18 certificate.
You'd never have expected that, things appear to be looking up even more.

Maybe in the not too distant future NEW YORK RIPPER might be released uncut!
Title: Re: Caligula / Caligola (Tinto Brass/Bob Guccione ,1979)
Post by: Stephen Grimes on 12 Jul 2008 - 11:09
Christ i'm surprised the scene with the 2 girls pissing on the castrated soldier got through,seems the BBFC are really starting to relax.
Title: Re: Caligula / Caligola (Tinto Brass/Bob Guccione ,1979)
Post by: Jonny on 12 Jul 2008 - 11:11

Maybe in the not too distant future NEW YORK RIPPER might be released uncut!

No, I doubt it. The sexualised violence in NYR isn't the same as the the sex in Caligula. I don't think the BBFC will ever change their standpoint as regards graphic sexual violence towards women.
Title: Re: Caligula / Caligola (Tinto Brass/Bob Guccione ,1979)
Post by: Peter Neal on 16 Jul 2008 - 11:29
Christ i'm surprised the scene with the 2 girls pissing on the castrated soldier got through,seems the BBFC are really starting to relax.

Haven't seen it yet, but that description just made me almost spill my coffee. :-* ;D

Looks like I'm in for a rather...errrr....different kind of viewing experience.... ::)
Title: Re: Caligula / Caligola (Tinto Brass/Bob Guccione ,1979)
Post by: Philleh on 16 Jul 2008 - 15:04
Maybe we'll get Joe D'Amato's un-official sequel uncut next! lol - minus the horse scene of course.

Or maybe I'm just day-dreaming of a glorious day that will never arrive.  ???
Title: Re: Caligula / Caligola (Tinto Brass/Bob Guccione ,1979)
Post by: Jonny on 16 Jul 2008 - 15:38
Maybe we'll get Joe D'Amato's un-official sequel uncut next! lol - minus the horse scene of course.

If it was minus the horse scene it wouldn't be uncut  :D
Title: Re: Caligula / Caligola (Tinto Brass/Bob Guccione ,1979)
Post by: Philleh on 17 Jul 2008 - 09:16
LOL!!... fuck, you got me!  ;)
Title: Re: Caligula / Caligola (Tinto Brass/Bob Guccione ,1979)
Post by: Richard C on 26 Aug 2008 - 07:47
Anyone know what the differences are between the US "Imperial Edition" and the UK one? I know the US has 3 discs and the UK one 4 so I'm assuming the fourth is the cut film originally released here? I own the Dutch disc of this and haven't got round to watching it yet but I'm still going to pick this one up.
Title: Re: Caligula / Caligola (Tinto Brass/Bob Guccione ,1979)
Post by: Ben Cobb on 11 Mar 2010 - 10:07
Sorry if this has been posted somewhere on the forum already but couldn't find it...

My friend told me last night about Tinto Brass's plans to shoot a new 3D version of Caligula... thought he was kidding. Check out the link - he starts shooting in May! http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8487552.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8487552.stm)
Title: Re: Caligula / Caligola (Tinto Brass/Bob Guccione ,1979)
Post by: ecc on 11 Mar 2010 - 10:59
Has anyone seen Brass' cut of the film?  Raro put it out as IO CALIGOLA.
Title: Re: Caligula / Caligola (Tinto Brass/Bob Guccione ,1979)
Post by: Mark GW on 25 Jun 2014 - 21:05
I have literally received the new 2-disc Minerva/Raro IO CALIGOLA DVD in the post from Italy today.  It contains the Italian cut of the film (including the extended version of the killing machine scene), the standard American 'Uncut' version containing the hardcore, and about 20 minutes of deleted scenes which I assume aren't in the Italian cut but are in the other versions.  Oh and there's a nice glossy 24 page booklet in Italian.

This makes 5 distinct edits of Caligula I now possess.  This Italian edit, the 3 in the UK Imperial edition and the one shown on Channel 4 during its simultaneous broadcast of the opening night of FilmFour.

Has anyone seen the briefly available Guccione cut that was available to buy online?

i didn't release that there was a trailer for a mock Caligula re-make.  It's here: "Trailer for the remake of Gore Vidal's Caligula" by Francesco Vezzoli (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpUzCyLiMmM#ws)

Caligula seems to me as the ultimate fan edit project.  If anyone is interested how you would go about such a task, along with a painstaking analysis on what's present on the recent DVD releases, then take a gander at this analysis by Alexander Tuschinski which can be found here:
http://www.alexander-tuschinski.de/resources/CaligulaReconstructionAnalysisAlexanderTuschinski.pdf (http://www.alexander-tuschinski.de/resources/CaligulaReconstructionAnalysisAlexanderTuschinski.pdf)

There's also an interview he conducted with Tinto Brass:
Caligula: Director's Cut (Tinto Brass interview) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbEUwNROrMQ#ws)

There are a few attempts at restoration of scenes on the internet:

Imperial Bordello
"CALIGULA" RESTORED SCENE!!! - Imperial Bordello (http://www.veoh.com/watch/v14494527EAG9KKKE)

Proculus vs. Killing Machine
"CALIGULA" RESTORED SCENE!!! - Proculus vs. Killing Machine (http://www.veoh.com/watch/v142211176fkaJEXp)

Harem of Monsters
"CALIGULA" RESTORED SCENE!!! - Harem of Monsters (http://www.veoh.com/watch/v14220863bbzdhsFJ)

Journey to Capri
"CALIGULA" RESTORED SCENE!!! - Journey to Capri (http://www.veoh.com/watch/v142210593RbhhpgW)

If you haven't yet picked up Arrow's 4-disc Imperial Edition yet then I suggest you do so.  Amazon are selling it for 7-95 GBP.  A real bargain.
Title: Re: Caligula / Caligola (Tinto Brass/Bob Guccione ,1979)
Post by: Montgomery Wood on 28 Sep 2015 - 02:59
So is the Arrow release the most comprehensive release?
Title: Re: Caligula / Caligola (Tinto Brass/Bob Guccione ,1979)
Post by: strangedaysindeed on 28 Sep 2015 - 18:37
From memory, it didn't have the commentary or at least one of the commentaries from the USA release so I opted for that, it being region free anyway.

this page at dvdcompare compares the various releases:
http://www.dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=14059 (http://www.dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=14059)
Title: Re: Caligula / Caligola (Tinto Brass/Bob Guccione ,1979)
Post by: Montgomery Wood on 01 Oct 2015 - 17:26
Thank you for the link.

I would be cool if there was a dvd release of Caligula that re inserted those deleted scenes kind of like how for Once Upon a Time in America, new footage was reinserted into the film.

is there a release of Caligula with those above linked new scenes available on dvd?