Euro Cult Movie Forum => Police & Crime => Topic started by: Kalibre38 on 14 Jul 2007 - 18:54

Title: Henry Silva..
Post by: Kalibre38 on 14 Jul 2007 - 18:54
Is he the best American actor in Italian Crime Films?  :)

How about Richard Conte or Woody Strode? You tell me!

Title: Re: Henry Silva..
Post by: paperbag on 14 Jul 2007 - 20:15
Was Jack Palance in more than Mister Scarface?

Henry was very enjoyable
Title: Re: Henry Silva..
Post by: Kalibre38 on 14 Jul 2007 - 20:22
He was also in Cop in Blue Jeans (Squadra Antiscippo by Bruno Corbucci). There may be others that I don't know about. Perhaps Mr. Scarface was such a good movie he deserves to be counted.  ::)
Title: Re: Henry Silva..
Post by: Kalibre38 on 14 Jul 2007 - 20:24
I guess we can't forget Joe Dallesandro either.  :-\
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Post by: Stephen Grimes on 14 Jul 2007 - 20:25
Jack Palance was also in Alfonso Brescia's 'Knell,the Bloody Avenger' (Sangue di sbirro) alongside George Eastman.
Title: Re: Henry Silva..
Post by: Kalibre38 on 14 Jul 2007 - 20:30
Yes Stephen you are right. I had forgotten about that one..
Title: Re: Henry Silva..
Post by: Stephen Grimes on 14 Jul 2007 - 20:37
Is he the best American actor in Italian Crime Films?  :)
Martin Balsam was in at least 10 Italian crime movies including Fernando di Leo's 'Blood and Diamonds',also The Counsellor,Season for Assassins,Gardenia etc.
Lee J Cobb starred in 4 for Stelvio Massi including the 3 Mark films,he was also in 'Nick the Sting' for di Leo.
Title: Re: Henry Silva..
Post by: Kalibre38 on 14 Jul 2007 - 20:39
Yes indeed he was. But was he the best? :'(
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Post by: Stephen Grimes on 14 Jul 2007 - 20:41
Yes indeed he was. But was he the best? :'(
Well that's a question of personal taste,i think they were all good and brought something different to every film.
Title: Re: Henry Silva..
Post by: Kalibre38 on 14 Jul 2007 - 20:49
I guess it would depend on the movie but there is just something about Silva that makes him stand out in the stuff he does. When I watch movies and see Silva I am like THERE HE IS with his un-mistakable face and tough guy acting abilities he stands high above the rest of the American actors in my opinion.
Title: Re: Henry Silva..
Post by: Paul on 15 Jul 2007 - 15:27
There were quite a few decent American actors in Italian genre flicks - the most obvious being Clint Eastwood, but what about Burt Reynolds, Martin Balsam, John Saxon and so on? The list could run and run. As much as I enjoy Silva as a "presence" in these films, he's definitely lacking acting ability  :D
Title: Re: Henry Silva..
Post by: Stephen Grimes on 15 Jul 2007 - 15:31
There were quite a few decent American actors in Italian genre flicks - the most obvious being Clint Eastwood, but what about Burt Reynolds, Martin Balsam, John Saxon and so on? The list could run and run.
Yeah but Kalibre38 said 'Best American actor in Italian crime films'.
Title: Re: Henry Silva..
Post by: Paul on 15 Jul 2007 - 15:33
There were quite a few decent American actors in Italian genre flicks - the most obvious being Clint Eastwood, but what about Burt Reynolds, Martin Balsam, John Saxon and so on? The list could run and run.
Yeah but Kalibre38 said 'Best American actor in Italian crime films'.

Okay, ignore Eastwood and Reynolds but Balsam and Saxon were in crime films, eh?
Title: Re: Henry Silva..
Post by: Stephen Grimes on 15 Jul 2007 - 15:39
Martin Balsam was in at least 10 Italian crime movies including Fernando di Leo's 'Blood and Diamonds',also The Counsellor,Season for Assassins,Gardenia etc.
Lee J Cobb starred in 4 for Stelvio Massi including the 3 Mark films,he was also in 'Nick the Sting' for di Leo.

Yeah i said about Balsam a few posts above as well as Lee J Cobb   :-\
Title: Re: Henry Silva..
Post by: Paul on 15 Jul 2007 - 15:59
Maybe I need some glasses - or a better attention span!  :-\
Title: Re: Henry Silva..
Post by: Stephen Grimes on 15 Jul 2007 - 16:01
Maybe I need some glasses - or a better attention span!  :-\
Wake up Comp,wake up  :-\
Title: Re: Henry Silva..
Post by: LANZETTA on 15 Jul 2007 - 16:32
No need to say what i think! ::)
Title: Re: Henry Silva..
Post by: Kalibre38 on 15 Jul 2007 - 18:16
Don't get me wrong. I don't think Silva is a brilliant actor, his attitude in movies makes him a good part for some kind of a crime lord or bad ass in those movies. :) Trust me I would't pick Silva to take over Clint Eastwoods part. I am only speaking of Italian Crime and the whole point of asking was not to get more names of American actors but to find out what YOUR favorites are. I am new here in case you didnt notice and would like to find out more about what your likes and dislikes are. Hope thats ok!  :D
Title: Re: Henry Silva..
Post by: vigilanteforce on 15 Jul 2007 - 20:39
Welcome Kalibre 38!

I am sure Kalibre meant "most entertaining actor" or "most badass actor" or "most suitable for the Italian crime genre". Silva lacks the versatility of Tomas Milian or Franco Nero (who could play almost any kind of role) but he is damn perfect at the few things he does. So I wouldn't agree with Comp who says he lacks in talent. I would only agree with that statement if Silva was bad or laughable in his roles. He is not.
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Post by: Kalibre38 on 15 Jul 2007 - 22:58
Vigilante understands! ;) 8) :-\
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Post by: vigilanteforce on 15 Jul 2007 - 23:07
 8) :P
Title: Re: Henry Silva..
Post by: LANZETTA on 15 Jul 2007 - 23:36
Maybe Bronson if he'd appeared in more.

I'm surprised there aren't any reviews up yet for REVOLVER or VIOLENT CITY. >:(
Title: Re: Henry Silva..
Post by: vigilanteforce on 15 Jul 2007 - 23:45
Bronson and Eastwood hardly starred in Euro-Cult films and they are hardly remembered for that stuff, so I am surprised they are mentioned here. However, it would have been nice if they had done more stuff, specially crime films :)
Title: Re: Henry Silva..
Post by: Paul on 16 Jul 2007 - 08:35
Bronson and Eastwood hardly starred in Euro-Cult films and they are hardly remembered for that stuff, so I am surprised they are mentioned here. However, it would have been nice if they had done more stuff, specially crime films :)

a lot of Bronson's earlier films were of European origin, mate - stuff like RED SUN, FAREWELL FRIEND, COLD SEAT, VILACHI PAPERS, VIOLENCT CITY, etc. I think people tend to categorise a lot of his European films as "American films shot abroad".
Title: Re: Henry Silva..
Post by: Dorado on 16 Jul 2007 - 09:06
Bronson and Eastwood hardly starred in Euro-Cult films and they are hardly remembered for that stuff, so I am surprised they are mentioned here. However, it would have been nice if they had done more stuff, specially crime films :)

a lot of Bronson's earlier films were of European origin, mate - stuff like RED SUN, FAREWELL FRIEND, COLD SEAT, VILACHI PAPERS, VIOLENCT CITY, etc. I think people tend to categorise a lot of his European films as "American films shot abroad".

Adieu l'ami (Farewell Friend) is an intelligent and underrated heist film starring Charles Bronson and Alain Delon.
This film deserves to be better known IMO.

Title: Re: Henry Silva..
Post by: LANZETTA on 16 Jul 2007 - 09:09
Bronson and Eastwood hardly starred in Euro-Cult films and they are hardly remembered for that stuff, so I am surprised they are mentioned here.
Hold on,don't spaghetti westerns  count as Euro-Cult,and everyone knows Leones films? :D

Anyway as regards crime thrillers Bronson is great in VIOLENT CITY and REVOLVER,as are the movies themselves which turned me unto exploring further into the genre.

But again about sw's,the likes Jean-Lous Trintignant,Henry Fonda,Rod Steiger or James Coburn never starred in more than a couple,but to all but the most die-hard sw fans are amongst the most remembered from this genre. :-X
Title: Re: Henry Silva..
Post by: vigilanteforce on 16 Jul 2007 - 12:05
Hold on,don't spaghetti westerns  count as Euro-Cult,and everyone knows Leones films? :D

I guess they do count but how many of them did Bronson and Eastwood do? I said hardly cause they haven't done more than a couple.
Title: Re: Henry Silva..
Post by: spannick on 16 Jul 2007 - 15:21
King Silva is the Best in CRY OF THE PROSTITUTE...  :P

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Title: Re: Henry Silva..
Post by: Stephen Grimes on 16 Jul 2007 - 15:25
He sweats like mad in CRY OF THE PROSTITUTE,must have been one hot Sicilian summer the year they made it :-\
Title: Re: Henry Silva..
Post by: vigilanteforce on 16 Jul 2007 - 15:30
CRY OF A PROSTITUTE is a gem! How about an English-speaking DVD release Marin?  :D
Title: Re: Henry Silva..
Post by: spannick on 16 Jul 2007 - 15:57
nothing at the Moment, but i will get a List of Stuff we can license from Italy - if we're lucky the Movie's on the List too! BUT i have no English uncut Dub, so it would still be a tricky Issue :-(

My English dub is only some 82 mins long - 11 mins short of the Italian / German Version!
Title: Re: Henry Silva..
Post by: vigilanteforce on 16 Jul 2007 - 16:06
I am expecting an English dub that runs around 89 mins- I will check if it sounds good and will let you know!