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Title: Red Riding Trilogy (Julian Jarrold/James Marsh/Anand Tucker, 2009)
Post by: Paul on 06 Mar 2009 - 09:37
1974 (Julian Jarrold, 2009)
1980 (James Marsh, 2009)
1983 (Anand Tucker, 2009)

This three film adaptation of David Peace's Red Riding Quartet (the makers had to dump 1977 due to budgetary constraints) kicked off on Channel Four last night. The first film, directed by Julian Jarrold – KINKY BOOTS, BECOMING JANE, was a slow-burning and novelistic affair, but livened somewhat as it progressed. Starts with a press conference after a young girl goes missing before focusing on an investigation carried out by a young journalist and the bureaucracy and corruption of the Yorkshire police. This had a great cast—including Sean Bean, Warren Clarke, Rebecca Hall and Peter Mullan—the attention to period detail was great and bodes well for next weeks film, 1980, which concentrates on the events surrounding the Yorkshire Ripper case. Paddy Considine (DEAD MAN'S SHOES) stars and documentary filmmaker James Marsh (MAN ON WIRE directs). 1980 follows the week after and is directed by Anand Tucker (SHOPGIRL, HILARY AND JACKIE).

Incidentally, the three films are being released by Optimum as a box set on 13th April.
Title: Re: Red Riding Trilogy (Julian Jarrold/James Marsh/Anand Tucker, 2009)
Post by: Jonny on 06 Mar 2009 - 10:03
Loved last nights episode, that weaselly looking copper is a scary motherfucker isn't he? The one who chucked that jounalist out of the van after torturing him...

Looking forward to part 2 next week.  :'(
Title: Re: Red Riding Trilogy (Julian Jarrold/James Marsh/Anand Tucker, 2009)
Post by: Paul on 06 Mar 2009 - 10:05
I knew you would dig this!  :-\

Loved last nights episode, that weaselly looking copper is a scary motherfucker isn't he? The one who chucked that jounalist out of the van after torturing him...


He was featured quite prominently in the trailer for next week's film leading me to believe he's going to have a much more significant role. That sequence was mesmerising, BTW - I read a review in the Metro this morning: they were really indifferent about the film and hated that scene.
Title: Re: Red Riding Trilogy (Julian Jarrold/James Marsh/Anand Tucker, 2009)
Post by: Jonny on 06 Mar 2009 - 10:09
That sequence was mesmerising, BTW - I read a review in the Metro this morning: they were really indifferent about the film and hated that scene.

I really was on the ege of my seat when he had the gun to the back of that guys head, just couldn't believe what was going on. It was nuts. I had no idea going in that each story was separate and figured the journo would be a continuing character, I was pretty much floored by how he ended up.
Title: Re: Red Riding Trilogy (Julian Jarrold/James Marsh/Anand Tucker, 2009)
Post by: Paul on 06 Mar 2009 - 10:14
That sequence was mesmerising, BTW - I read a review in the Metro this morning: they were really indifferent about the film and hated that scene.

I really was on the ege of my seat when he had the gun to the back of that guys head, just couldn't believe what was going on. It was nuts. I had no idea going in that each story was separate and figured the journo would be a continuing character, I was pretty much floored by how he ended up.

SPOILER!

I know, it was a shock to me too.

The scene that followed the one where he was chucked out of the van where he entered Sean Bean's club, had a direct lift from GOODFELLAS, did you notice it? He marches straight in, whacks a guy in the face with the revolver before turning around and pointing it at the bystanders.

The Metro didn't like the way in which the makers chose to only portray the police in a negative light(!) I suppose the seventies wasa time when there was no injustice and that the police weren't partial to setting folk up to close a case  :-\ WTF does the Metro know, anyway.
Title: Re: Red Riding Trilogy (Julian Jarrold/James Marsh/Anand Tucker, 2009)
Post by: Jonny on 06 Mar 2009 - 10:19
WTF does the Metro know, anyway.

Yeah, bollocks to them. Plus they're a southern paper what the hell do they knw about stuff that goes on up North, eh?  :-\

Didn't really think about GOODFELLAS, well I did a little bit bit but I always do when people get hit in the face with revolvers as it reminds me of the scene where Liotta pummels that guy outside his house on his driveway.
Title: Re: Red Riding Trilogy (Julian Jarrold/James Marsh/Anand Tucker, 2009)
Post by: Mart85 on 06 Mar 2009 - 10:42
Watched it last night and thought it was excellent stuff.  I was gripped throughout.  Sean Bean was a menacing fucker in this wasn't he?  The bit where he literally had the young journalist by the balls was rough.  The swearing in it was class as well with some nice use of the c word on TV.  ::)
Title: Re: Red Riding Trilogy (Julian Jarrold/James Marsh/Anand Tucker, 2009)
Post by: Paul on 06 Mar 2009 - 10:49
The swearing in it was class as well with some nice use of the c word on TV.  ::)

Congrats, Mart! You know exactly what to say to pique Aarron's interest in something.  :-\
Title: Re: Red Riding Trilogy (Julian Jarrold/James Marsh/Anand Tucker, 2009)
Post by: Mart85 on 06 Mar 2009 - 11:04
I reckon they should stick that quote on the front of the DVD cover then.  :-\
Title: Re: Red Riding Trilogy (Julian Jarrold/James Marsh/Anand Tucker, 2009)
Post by: Paul on 06 Mar 2009 - 11:07
I reckon they should stick that quote on the front of the DVD cover then.  :-\

Yeah, just think of how many other Chelsea fans will buy it.
Title: Re: Red Riding Trilogy (Julian Jarrold/James Marsh/Anand Tucker, 2009)
Post by: Mart85 on 06 Mar 2009 - 11:18
 :-\

Also I was gonna say me thinks the reviewer in Metro should watch Heartbeat if the negative representation of the Yorkshire constabulary upset him / her.
Title: Re: Red Riding Trilogy (Julian Jarrold/James Marsh/Anand Tucker, 2009)
Post by: Paul on 06 Mar 2009 - 11:20
:-\

Also I was gonna say me thinks the reviewer in Metro should watch Heartbeat if the negative representation of the Yorkshire constabulary upset him / her.

There was a reference to Heartbeat in the review too.

It really bugs me when you see dismissive comments targetting something that clearly had a lot of care and thought put into its creation.
Title: Re: Red Riding Trilogy (Julian Jarrold/James Marsh/Anand Tucker, 2009)
Post by: Mart85 on 06 Mar 2009 - 11:27
I hear you Paul.  Sure if they don't like it, they don't like it but it seems to me this one is talking out his arse.
Title: Re: Red Riding Trilogy (Julian Jarrold/James Marsh/Anand Tucker, 2009)
Post by: drmiaow on 06 Mar 2009 - 20:14
I had mixed feelings about this one. It had a strong cast, it was well shot and the attention to period detail was impressive, but while it had its moments the story didn't really grab me and the lead didn't quite feel right... After a while it started to remind me of GET CARTER and began to suffer by comparison. And then I started thinking about James Ellroy and his LA Quartet, and just how well those stories are plotted... It was well worth watching, even if the ending wasn't all that, but I get the feeling that now the characters are established with a bit of history behind them the next episode is where it's all really going to move up a gear.
Title: Re: Red Riding Trilogy (Julian Jarrold/James Marsh/Anand Tucker, 2009)
Post by: Jonny on 13 Mar 2009 - 09:51
Another stunning episode last night, faultless cast and the story continues to deliver punches to the stomach at the end of each episode.

If anyone hasn't seen these in order I'd strongly suggest not watching next weeks episode and start from the beginning as knowing the continuity is essential.

I was particularly taken by the cinematography in last nights episode, I don't think I've seen a 'scope (2.35:1) ratio 'made for TV' program before. And the ratio wasn't just used as a gimmick, it was well used.
 
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Title: Re: Red Riding Trilogy (Julian Jarrold/James Marsh/Anand Tucker, 2009)
Post by: drmiaow on 13 Mar 2009 - 10:25
This episode really delivered. No reservations this week, and I'd agree with Jonny 100%: the cinematography was great. Just out of interest, how faithful have the two episodes so far been to the books? I haven't read any of them, but I'll definitely be looking out for them now.
Title: Re: Red Riding Trilogy (Julian Jarrold/James Marsh/Anand Tucker, 2009)
Post by: Paul on 13 Mar 2009 - 11:04
I was thinking of reading the books because I read that a lot had to be condensed in order to make each one feature length. There's also a whole book--1977--completely missing. So I may just give these a go.
Title: Re: Red Riding Trilogy (Julian Jarrold/James Marsh/Anand Tucker, 2009)
Post by: Paul on 23 Mar 2009 - 12:00
I finally got round to watching the second and third films over the weekend. I thought the second one was exceptional: the best of the bunch. I enjoyed the third one but thought the conclusion was a bit of a let down, compared to the brilliance of the second part's ending.

Overall, I though the series was very good, but there were details that really needed expanding on. I reckon the books would probably be a much more rewarding experience.
Title: Re: Red Riding Trilogy (Julian Jarrold/James Marsh/Anand Tucker, 2009)
Post by: drmiaow on 24 Mar 2009 - 22:05
The third was fine, but cluttered. I enjoyed it, but it was hard to follow what was going on. I'd agree with Paul: Part 2 was the pick of the litter. I'll be interested to see what our American cousins make of it, assuming it gets shown Stateside.
Title: Re: Red Riding Trilogy (Julian Jarrold/James Marsh/Anand Tucker, 2009)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 24 Mar 2009 - 22:29
I never saw any of them, there is now (or about to be) a U.K. dvd release, probably get it cheap in six weeks or so!

I'll wait till then  :D
Title: Re: Red Riding Trilogy (Julian Jarrold/James Marsh/Anand Tucker, 2009)
Post by: Phill on 15 May 2009 - 21:43
I was thinking of reading the books because I read that a lot had to be condensed in order to make each one feature length. There's also a whole book--1977--completely missing. So I may just give these a go.

I'd highly recommend spending time reading the novels Paul, i read the lot in abouth 2 months a couple of years ago. 1977 fills a lot of holes but i wouldn't expect to have a coherent story, Peace writes a lot like Burroughs/James Ellroy short and punchy. I wasn't sure what happened at the end of the novels tbh but after watching the series i was like "Oh yea got yer "  :-\ I'd love to see Peace's GB84 set around the Miners strike made the novel is one of the best I've read in a decade no kidding !
Anyway if there's apiece of t.v that beats Red Riding this year I'll be damned (utd) !  ::)
Title: Re: Red Riding Trilogy (Julian Jarrold/James Marsh/Anand Tucker, 2009)
Post by: Deranged on 17 May 2009 - 11:47
I saw snippets of the broadcasts - not enough to have any idea but enough to pique my interest (I remember the whole Yorkshire Ripper killings and enquiry quite clearly from my youth, plus being from Sunderland there was all the Wearside Jack tapes and letters which led to a lot of focus on the city (or town as it was back then!) and a few mates had family members questioned by the Old Bill about matters).

Anyway, as not to digress too much, I decided to read the books before watching the episodes and picked up the first two books on Friday night in Asda - read 1974 yesterday and 100 pages through 1977 - great stuff - certainly highly recommended. I'm worried I'm going to finish 1977 later today and not have 1980 to crack on with!  :-[
Title: Re: Red Riding Trilogy (Julian Jarrold/James Marsh/Anand Tucker, 2009)
Post by: Michael Blanton on 05 Feb 2010 - 17:36
Apparently, RED RIDING TRILOGY is getting a theatrical release in NYC.

I see the trilogy is available on 3 DVDs at amazon.co.uk (http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B001TEKJZW/ref=nosim?tag=lovelockandlo-21)

Anyone know if there are plans for a Blu-ray release?

http://movies.nytimes.com/2010/02/05/movies/05redriding.html?8mu&emc=mua1
Title: Re: Red Riding Trilogy (Julian Jarrold/James Marsh/Anand Tucker, 2009)
Post by: R-T-C Tim on 09 Mar 2010 - 20:39
I was slightly disappointed by the films. I read all four books back to back very quickly and I felt that the films, despite trying to emphasise their dark sides in the trailers, never managed to be half as dark as the novels, particularly at the ending of the final chapter.
Title: Re: Red Riding Trilogy (Julian Jarrold/James Marsh/Anand Tucker, 2009)
Post by: Michael Blanton on 03 Aug 2010 - 17:40
Blu-ray coming out in the States on 8/31/10.

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Red-Riding-Trilogy-Blu-ray/12018/

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Title: Re: Red Riding Trilogy (Julian Jarrold/James Marsh/Anand Tucker, 2009)
Post by: Mark GW on 22 Dec 2010 - 12:18
First part, 1974, was repeated on MoreFour last night.  I haven't seen this since it was first released and had forgotten how dark, intense, and well-made it is.  Part 2 (1980), which is on tonight, is probably the best of the bunch.  I assume, the final part of the trilogy is on tomorrow.  If you haven't seen it before I recommend you tune in for some thoroughly uncomfortable yet engrossing viewing.