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Title: Murderous Passions : The Delirious Cinema of Jesus Franco (Stephen Thrower)
Post by: Jonny on 30 Oct 2009 - 07:23
As Marc mentioned over at the Cult Movie Forums (http://www.cultmovieforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16598) yesterday Stephen Thrower is putting together a new book on the films of Jess Franco due to be published next year by FAB Press.

More info over at Stephens blog HERE (http://7doorshotel.blogspot.com/?zx=3ae9e599174622f5)
Title: Re: Sadomania! A Guide to the Films of Jess Franco (Stephen Thrower)
Post by: Michael Blanton on 30 Oct 2009 - 07:38
As Marc mentioned over at the Cult Movie Forums ([url]http://www.cultmovieforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16598[/url]) yesterday Stephen Thrower is putting together a new book on the films of Jess Franco due to be published next year by FAB Press.

More info over at Stephens blog HERE ([url]http://7doorshotel.blogspot.com/?zx=3ae9e599174622f5[/url])


I'll definitely be picking this up. :-X
Title: Re: Sadomania! A Guide to the Films of Jess Franco (Stephen Thrower)
Post by: Gary B. on 30 Oct 2009 - 14:57
Hopefully he doesn't dog all of Franco's "lesser" films like he did in the Fulci book - made that one nearly impossible to read unless you just stare at all the pretty pictures.  Still the main reason I've never picked up the Nightmare USA book.
Title: Re: Sadomania! A Guide to the Films of Jess Franco (Stephen Thrower)
Post by: Kevin Coed on 30 Oct 2009 - 15:09
Still the main reason I've never picked up the Nightmare USA book.

You really should get it. It's a fantastic book; worth the price just for the chapters on Frederick Friedel, David Durston and Robert A. Endelson.
Title: Re: Sadomania! A Guide to the Films of Jess Franco (Stephen Thrower)
Post by: Gary B. on 30 Oct 2009 - 15:18
Yea, it always looks so tempting when i see it...  I'll probably cave in and buy it eventually
Title: Re: Sadomania! A Guide to the Films of Jess Franco (Stephen Thrower)
Post by: Michael Blanton on 30 Oct 2009 - 15:29
Still the main reason I've never picked up the Nightmare USA book.

You really should get it. It's a fantastic book; worth the price just for the chapters on Frederick Friedel, David Durston and Robert A. Endelson.

I got my copy for free.  A friend ordered a copy from amazon.co.uk.  It never showed up, so they sent him another copy.  About 4 months later, the first copy arrived and amazon said the postage would be too expensive to return it, so they told him to keep it.

He gave me the extra copy.  :-X
Title: Re: Sadomania! A Guide to the Films of Jess Franco (Stephen Thrower)
Post by: Jared on 30 Oct 2009 - 23:06
Nightmare USA is maybe the best movie book I've ever read. Or at least tied with Tohill and Tombs' Immoral Tales. This Franco project has shot to the top of my CAN'T WAIT list!
Title: Re: Sadomania! A Guide to the Films of Jess Franco (Stephen Thrower)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 31 Oct 2009 - 12:29
I didn't get that NIGHMARE U.S.A. book for one reason, it would probably end up costing me a fortune seeking some of the films and i'm into enough stuff already.
Title: Re: Sadomania! A Guide to the Films of Jess Franco (Stephen Thrower)
Post by: Johan Melle on 02 Nov 2009 - 22:06
This sounds awesome! I'll pick this up for sure. I really loved Thrower's Fulci book. Very well-written and engaging stuff.

Hopefully he doesn't dog all of Franco's "lesser" films like he did in the Fulci book - made that one nearly impossible to read unless you just stare at all the pretty pictures.  Still the main reason I've never picked up the Nightmare USA book.

I have to disagree on this one. Yes, Thrower gave Fulci's later films negative reviews but I wouldn't say that he "dogged" them. He lists very specific and well-argued reasons for not liking the films in question, so I don't see what the problem is. One shouldn't have to love and praise all the films a director has made in order to write a book about him.
Title: Re: Sadomania! A Guide to the Films of Jess Franco (Stephen Thrower)
Post by: Gary B. on 03 Nov 2009 - 03:22
I have to disagree on this one. Yes, Thrower gave Fulci's later films negative reviews but I wouldn't say that he "dogged" them. He lists very specific and well-argued reasons for not liking the films in question, so I don't see what the problem is. One shouldn't have to love and praise all the films a director has made in order to write a book about him.
I know I'm in the minority on this, and usually am on these forums, but the main problem is that the book is just a bunch of opinions and filler and offers nothing new to the table about any of the films.  I'd rather spend my time watching Conquest, or New Gladiators and actually ENJOYING them!  Like I said, though, the pictures in the book are great, and the only reason I still own it.
Title: Re: Sadomania! A Guide to the Films of Jess Franco (Stephen Thrower)
Post by: broonage on 03 Nov 2009 - 08:15
I've started to read my pile of "to read" books. Just read "Make Love The Bruce Campbell Way", brilliant read!
Now on Fab Press - Book Of The Dead, very professional and excellent value for money. Still need to read Stephen Thrower's Fulci book and Nightmare USA!!
Title: Re: Sadomania! A Guide to the Films of Jess Franco (Stephen Thrower)
Post by: Michael Blanton on 03 Nov 2009 - 08:17
I've started to read my pile of "to read" books. Just read "Make Love The Bruce Campbell Way", brilliant read!
Now on Fab Press - Book Of The Dead, very professional and excellent value for money. Still need to read Stephen Thrower's Fulci book and Nightmare USA!!

You should be able to knock off the Fulci book and Nightmare USA in a day or two.  :D
Title: Re: Sadomania! A Guide to the Films of Jess Franco (Stephen Thrower)
Post by: broonage on 03 Nov 2009 - 09:31
I've started to read my pile of "to read" books. Just read "Make Love The Bruce Campbell Way", brilliant read!
Now on Fab Press - Book Of The Dead, very professional and excellent value for money. Still need to read Stephen Thrower's Fulci book and Nightmare USA!!

You should be able to knock off the Fulci book and Nightmare USA in a day or two.  :D

No problem at all.
Title: Re: Sadomania! A Guide to the Films of Jess Franco (Stephen Thrower)
Post by: Johan Melle on 04 Nov 2009 - 23:17
I know I'm in the minority on this, and usually am on these forums, but the main problem is that the book is just a bunch of opinions and filler and offers nothing new to the table about any of the films.  I'd rather spend my time watching Conquest, or New Gladiators and actually ENJOYING them!  Like I said, though, the pictures in the book are great, and the only reason I still own it.

I do see your point but, personally, I think the book is far more than just opinions and filler. For example, Thrower divides Fulci's films into periods and outlines the popular film trends at the time and films that may have influenced Fulci - thereby placing the films in a larger context. I wasn't very seasoned in Euro cult at the time, so I really learned quite a lot when I first read this - about different genres and trends, and I got a long list of interesting-sounding films to check out etc.

But I do agree with you in the sense that we don't really learn a whole lot about Fulci himself from the book and that is unfortunate. Still love the book, though.
Title: Re: Sadomania! A Guide to the Films of Jess Franco (Stephen Thrower)
Post by: Bogan The Wanderer on 05 Nov 2009 - 00:04
The guys that put together that Fulci interview doco DVD - Kit Gavin and Mike Baronas, I think - mentioned in some interview that they had been pondering the idea of bringing out a massive hardcover full of the complete, lenghty interviews they did with numerous actors, directors, composers and the like all discussing Fulci.  The title was LUCIO FULCI REMEMBERED and they had a link to a snazzy looking cover with the comment that a 'UK based publisher' had offered to print it whenever they finished the book.  They noted then however that the task of translating all the dozens of interviews from Italian into English had proven too much for them and they'd decided to put the book on 'hiatus', hinting that the hiatus was probably permanent.  This likely would have been a good book to tell us more about Fulci but I dunno if we'll ever see it.
Title: Re: Sadomania! A Guide to the Films of Jess Franco (Stephen Thrower)
Post by: broonage on 05 Nov 2009 - 08:05
The guys that put together that Fulci interview doco DVD - Kit Gavin and Mike Baronas, I think - mentioned in some interview that they had been pondering the idea of bringing out a massive hardcover full of the complete, lenghty interviews they did with numerous actors, directors, composers and the like all discussing Fulci.  The title was LUCIO FULCI REMEMBERED and they had a link to a snazzy looking cover with the comment that a 'UK based publisher' had offered to print it whenever they finished the book.  They noted then however that the task of translating all the dozens of interviews from Italian into English had proven too much for them and they'd decided to put the book on 'hiatus', hinting that the hiatus was probably permanent.  This likely would have been a good book to tell us more about Fulci but I dunno if we'll ever see it.

That would have been awesome!
Title: Re: Murderous Passions : The Delirious Cinema of Jesus Franco
Post by: Jonny on 23 Apr 2015 - 15:29
Preorder is currently half price on Amazon.co.uk

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1907222316/ref=pe_385721_37986871_TE_item_image (http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1907222316/ref=pe_385721_37986871_TE_item_image)
Title: Re: Murderous Passions : The Delirious Cinema of Jesus Franco (Stephen Thrower)
Post by: Jonny on 23 Apr 2015 - 18:45
I'm not the greatest fan of Franco by a long stretch but went and preordered this as the price is good and I like Stephen's writing so maybe it'll convert me!
Title: Re: Murderous Passions : The Delirious Cinema of Jesus Franco (Stephen Thrower)
Post by: Russell22 on 27 Apr 2015 - 11:32
I'd like to read this, but as I've had NIGHTMARE USA for yonks and haven't had time to read a page of it, i'll probably get round to it in 2080   ;D
Title: Re: Murderous Passions : The Delirious Cinema of Jesus Franco (Stephen Thrower)
Post by: slizwiz on 10 Jun 2015 - 19:46
I need this book. Not want. Need.
Title: Re: Murderous Passions : The Delirious Cinema of Jesus Franco (Stephen Thrower)
Post by: Russell22 on 11 Jun 2015 - 07:58
I believe Stephen Thrower is holding a seminar on Franco's works tonight in London (11tH June) where he'll discuss his new book and show clips from Franco's films
Title: Re: Murderous Passions : The Delirious Cinema of Jesus Franco (Stephen Thrower)
Post by: Jonny on 03 Jul 2015 - 17:03
My copy arrived from Amazon today...

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/03/65253bf6d44e7cbeed1a14c41ea8dc18.jpg)
Title: Re: Murderous Passions : The Delirious Cinema of Jesus Franco (Stephen Thrower)
Post by: Kevin Coed on 03 Jul 2015 - 17:44
Mine too. It is a thing of wonder.

I've only dipped into it so far but I'm already learning things. That's quite a rarity from most film books.
Title: Re: Murderous Passions : The Delirious Cinema of Jesus Franco (Stephen Thrower)
Post by: Jonny on 03 Jul 2015 - 18:07
Mine too. It is a thing of wonder.

I've only dipped into it so far but I'm already learning things. That's quite a rarity from most film books.
I'm gobsmacked that I only paid £26 for it. I've paid more for books half the size and with lower production values.
Title: Re: Murderous Passions : The Delirious Cinema of Jesus Franco (Stephen Thrower)
Post by: Kevin Coed on 03 Jul 2015 - 21:17
£20.40 for me.

Bargain.
Title: Re: Murderous Passions : The Delirious Cinema of Jesus Franco (Stephen Thrower)
Post by: Jonny on 03 Jul 2015 - 21:39
£20.40 for me.

Bargain.
I'm lost for words. I can't imagine how much it might cost for people in London
Title: Re: Murderous Passions : The Delirious Cinema of Jesus Franco (Stephen Thrower)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 03 Jul 2015 - 22:40
£20.40 for me.

Bargain.
I'm lost for words. I can't imagine how much it might cost for people in London
£587.12
Title: Re: Murderous Passions : The Delirious Cinema of Jesus Franco (Stephen Thrower)
Post by: Kevin Coed on 04 Jul 2015 - 05:55
£20.40 for me.

Bargain.
I'm lost for words. I can't imagine how much it might cost for people in London
£587.12

Double that in the Cinema Store.
Title: Re: Murderous Passions : The Delirious Cinema of Jesus Franco (Stephen Thrower)
Post by: Paul on 04 Jul 2015 - 06:01
But you'll get one of those trendy carrier bags that the serious film snob was never seen without in the 1990s.
Title: Re: Murderous Passions : The Delirious Cinema of Jesus Franco (Stephen Thrower)
Post by: Kevin Coed on 01 Aug 2015 - 17:41
Anyone finished this yet? I'm up to GIRL FROM RIO and so far it's astonishingly well researched, especially considering the minefield that's it's venturing into.
Title: Re: Murderous Passions : The Delirious Cinema of Jesus Franco (Stephen Thrower)
Post by: Bogan the Wanderer on 31 Aug 2015 - 00:23
Have read chunks of it but haven't finished it - it's obviously great though.  Book 2 is apparently 80% written and on target for release next year.  I need to restart my Franco watching.

Thrower's BEYOND TERROR update (out end of year from FAB Press) has also been more substantially revised than i thought it would.  All Fulci's films are now reviewed, there's a big Frizzi interview and piece on Fulci's music, lots of new illustrations etc etc. 
Title: Re: Murderous Passions : The Delirious Cinema of Jesus Franco (Stephen Thrower)
Post by: babybreese on 02 Sep 2015 - 01:46
I finally got off my ass & imported this over to the US.  Very much looking forward to spending many a day absorbing it all.

Here is an interview with Thrower from last week,  it's worth a read.
http://www.musiquemachine.com/articles/articles_template.php?id=379 (http://www.musiquemachine.com/articles/articles_template.php?id=379)
Title: Re: Murderous Passions : The Delirious Cinema of Jesus Franco (Stephen Thrower)
Post by: g053584398 on 19 Jun 2017 - 01:25
Volume 2 is available for pre-order now on Amazon it seems.
Title: Re: Murderous Passions : The Delirious Cinema of Jesus Franco (Stephen Thrower)
Post by: Bogan the Wanderer on 20 Jun 2017 - 04:11
Very cool.  I asked Thrower about it a month or so ago, he said Volume 2 currently had around 250,000 words of text written already, which I'm guessing puts it in the same ballpark of Volume 1.  I'm currently crawling through all of Franco's films chronologically (god help me), so the second book will be something to look forward to.