Euro Cult Movie Forum => Gialli => Topic started by: Stephen Grimes on 27 Feb 2010 - 14:25

Title: Doppia coppia con Regina / Alta tensiòn (Julio Buchs, 1972)
Post by: Stephen Grimes on 27 Feb 2010 - 14:25
Anyone seen the Italian vhs (AvoFilm?) and can post the runtime?Thanks
I've got the tv broadcast from Italian sat channel Telenorba which runs for 1h 18m but i'm starting to wonder if this might be slightly cut,it'd be a shame if it was as it's a pretty decent looking lbx print.

(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/9038/doppia.jpg)
Title: Re: Doppia coppia con Regina / Alta tensiòn (Julio Buchs, 1972)
Post by: Luca Canali on 27 Feb 2010 - 16:29
I've got an Italian language VHS rip of this but don't remember from which label. I can check next time I come across my DVD-R of it but I do know that the running time on mine is also 1h 18mins.
Title: Re: Doppia coppia con Regina / Alta tensiòn (Julio Buchs, 1972)
Post by: Stephen Grimes on 27 Feb 2010 - 17:27
but I do know that the running time on mine is also 1h 18mins.
Many thanks  :P,could be this Italian tv version isn't missing anything after all.
Still,i'm also going to get a copy of the Spanish vhs soon and see how it compares to that.
Title: Re: Doppia coppia con Regina / Alta tensiòn (Julio Buchs, 1972)
Post by: Luca Canali on 27 Feb 2010 - 19:37
but I do know that the running time on mine is also 1h 18mins.

Many thanks  :P,could be this Italian tv version isn't missing anything after all.
Still,i'm also going to get a copy of the Spanish vhs soon and see how it compares to that.


No worries mate...if anything it may even have something extra in it as I've just checked my VHS rip and the running time is exactly 1h 17m 04s. I've still no clue as to which VHS it's taken from but it's wide, good colours but quite grainy.
(http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/3438/vlcsnap289147.png)
Title: Re: Doppia coppia con Regina / Alta tensiòn (Julio Buchs, 1972)
Post by: MarcMorris on 27 Feb 2010 - 22:24
My version is from Telelombardia and I have it listed as 80m 13s. It came from collector Luca Rea back in 1998.
Title: Re: Doppia coppia con Regina / Alta tensiòn (Julio Buchs, 1972)
Post by: JoseADiego on 28 Feb 2010 - 18:10
My version is from Telelombardia and I have it listed as 80m 13s. It came from collector Luca Rea back in 1998.


 ;) ;) ;) 80m 13 s  ;) ;).....I don't know that version  ??? ??? ???......

Spain ( 77 m)  >:( >:(

Jose

http://exhumedmovies.netau.net/
Title: Re: Doppia coppia con Regina / Alta tensiòn (Julio Buchs, 1972)
Post by: ciavazzaro on 06 Nov 2010 - 13:05
Hello Jose,i wanted to ask you a thing,i didn't understand if you have the spanish version of the movie.
If you have it runs 77 minutes ? and most important thing,it have a different ending than the italian version ?
In the italian version the ending is:

[spoiler]Marisa has just heard Gallardo telling her you damned,she put her hands on the table and then the worker give the electricity ,there is a lamp a flare,which means that marisa dies,and then a freeze-frame on marisa's face,and then the ending titles.[/spoiler]

Maybe the spanish ending is more longer ?,i ask this because at the time it was not unusual for this co-production having different ending,both 2 maschi per alexa and Dopodichè uccide il maschio e poi lo divora have a different ending in the spanish version.

So if you can help me thanks a lot ,let me know !
Title: Re: Doppia coppia con Regina / Alta tensiòn (Julio Buchs, 1972)
Post by: alan tozer on 09 Nov 2010 - 14:46
Neither is actually cut they are just differently edited versions with different credits. Its a long time since ive seen it and dont remember the differences but quite liked it at the time.
Title: Re: Doppia coppia con Regina / Alta tensiòn (Julio Buchs, 1972)
Post by: ciavazzaro on 09 Nov 2010 - 18:22
So this another movie in double version..
I really hope to found somewhere the spanish alternate version...
Title: Re: Doppia coppia con Regina / Alta tensiòn (Julio Buchs, 1972)
Post by: JoseADiego on 10 Nov 2010 - 11:52
Sorry can't help you right now 'cause I saw the movie many years agos and honestly don't remember much... If you want a copy send me a PM and will try to find it 'cause don't know where it can be....
 
Regards
 
Jose
Title: Re: Doppia coppia con Regina / Alta tensiòn (Julio Buchs, 1972)
Post by: Stephen Grimes on 12 Nov 2010 - 23:39
TeleNorba version:

(http://i56.tinypic.com/b471ax.png)

(http://i54.tinypic.com/209krpe.png)

(http://i53.tinypic.com/10hkk60.png)
Title: Re: Doppia coppia con Regina / Alta tensiòn (Julio Buchs, 1972)
Post by: JoseADiego on 13 Nov 2010 - 06:37
TeleNorba version:

([url]http://i56.tinypic.com/b471ax.png[/url])

([url]http://i54.tinypic.com/209krpe.png[/url])

([url]http://i53.tinypic.com/10hkk60.png[/url])



WOW, Stephen Grimes , fantastic captures  ;) ;) ;)

Captures of my vhs  ;) ;)

(http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/58/altatension8.jpg)

(http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/6691/altatension.jpg)

(http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/8387/altatension2.jpg)

(http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/899/altatension3.jpg)

(http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/688/altatension4.jpg)

(http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/5493/altatension5.jpg)

(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/9333/altatension6.jpg)

(http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/2686/altatension7.jpg)
Title: Re: Doppia coppia con Regina / Alta tensiòn (Julio Buchs, 1972)
Post by: Jonny on 13 Nov 2010 - 08:52

WOW, Stephen Grimes , fantastic captures  ;) ;) ;)


Got to agree, that TV print looks lovely!
Title: Re: Doppia coppia con Regina / Alta tensiòn (Julio Buchs, 1972)
Post by: Luca Canali on 13 Nov 2010 - 10:51
Wow..that TeleNorba print definitely needs fan-subbing IMO.
Title: Re: Doppia coppia con Regina / Alta tensiòn (Julio Buchs, 1972)
Post by: ciavazzaro on 18 Nov 2010 - 22:41
Jose your vhs is the italian or spanish version ?
Title: Re: Doppia coppia con Regina / Alta tensiòn (Julio Buchs, 1972)
Post by: ciavazzaro on 18 Nov 2010 - 22:43
And stephen at the end you got the spanish vhs too ?
Title: Re: Doppia coppia con Regina / Alta tensiòn (Julio Buchs, 1972)
Post by: Stephen Grimes on 19 Nov 2010 - 20:09
And stephen at the end you got the spanish vhs too ?
No sorry,i only have the TeleNorba version at the moment.
Title: Re: Doppia coppia con Regina / Alta tensiòn (Julio Buchs, 1972)
Post by: JoseADiego on 20 Nov 2010 - 09:57
Jose your vhs is the italian or spanish version ?

Ciao ciavazzaro,  spanish version  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Doppia coppia con Regina / Alta tensiòn (Julio Buchs, 1972)
Post by: ciavazzaro on 20 Nov 2010 - 13:31
Thanks jose you have a Pm !
Title: Re: Doppia coppia con Regina / Alta tensiòn (Julio Buchs, 1972)
Post by: DjangoLi on 08 Jun 2013 - 12:29
English fansubs are almost done but I'm holding out for a copy of the Spanish VHS - given the running times and vague posts - can anyone confirm there are actually 2 different versions of the film or not? The running times appear to be almost identical reading the posts in this thread 1:17 vs 1:18.

I ask because the first love scene does look like it might be trimmed - (which is what inspired me to head over here and dig up this old thread  ::) )
Title: Re: Doppia coppia con Regina / Alta tensiòn (Julio Buchs, 1972)
Post by: daraioargento on 08 Jun 2013 - 13:41
spanish version is on  emule, has been for ages, maybe diego got his there :lol:

its an avi tho

(http://i.imgur.com/M4iiZSN.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/8TkIIBb.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/5ZecoNg.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/nDQCjHx.png)

i'll send you a wetransfer djangoli :)



Title: Re: Doppia coppia con Regina / Alta tensiòn (Julio Buchs, 1972)
Post by: DjangoLi on 08 Jun 2013 - 14:08
Magic, as always! Cheers dude.
Title: Re: Doppia coppia con Regina / Alta tensiòn (Julio Buchs, 1972)
Post by: alan tozer on 09 Jun 2013 - 08:07
Yes definitely two versions edited very differently but from memory I don't think one was any stronger than the other.
Title: Re: Doppia coppia con Regina / Alta tensiòn (Julio Buchs, 1972)
Post by: DjangoLi on 10 Jun 2013 - 11:35
Hello Jose,i wanted to ask you a thing,i didn't understand if you have the spanish version of the movie.
If you have it runs 77 minutes ? and most important thing,it have a different ending than the italian version ?
In the italian version the ending is:

[spoiler]Marisa has just heard Gallardo telling her you damned,she put her hands on the table and then the worker give the electricity ,there is a lamp a flare,which means that marisa dies,and then a freeze-frame on marisa's face,and then the ending titles.[/spoiler]

Maybe the spanish ending is more longer ?,i ask this because at the time it was not unusual for this co-production having different ending,both 2 maschi per alexa and Dopodichè uccide il maschio e poi lo divora have a different ending in the spanish version.

So if you can help me thanks a lot ,let me know !

Thanks to DarioArgento I was able to do a quick comparison of the two versions:

I can confirm that both films end the same - here are some notes I made, copied and pasted for your pleasure...

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Spanish Alt Tension - at 07:32 (all the way to 09:45 - the shot of the red car being washed and the following scenes in the garage are entirely missing from the Italian print and would fit in perfectly in the Italian version following the same scene after the murder in the house/telephone call. It also explains how Juan Luis Galiardo was stuck in a dead-end job and so desperately wants to get rich quick...

The rest is more or less the same - no extra footage. The only real difference is that the opening of the Spanish version plays out like a 'flashback' which is explained later in the film. The Italian version simply plays things out chronologically, as they happen.

[SPOILERS AHEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]

[spoiler]The final reel 1h:15m includes a crucial 10 - 15 second chunk omitted from the Italian print that sees Marisa Mell threaten Juan Luis Galiardo with a gun if he tries to leave - probably missing from the Italian print due to antenna interference (noticeable in various other spots, but no major hassle - but this short sequence is essential to the main plot and should be reinstated!)[/spoiler]

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So, there's no reason to go digging out the Spanish version unless it's (a) better quality than the almost perfect Italian TV capture, or you want the Spanish dub track. By re-instating the missing scene mentioned above you'd have all the footage, and bring the running time up to a more respectable 80 minutes.

I'll be sending fansubs to Dario soon - I'm committed to getting a batch of subs ready before anything gets sent out (I have 2 other gialli for him... a poliziesco for LordRetsudo... and part 2 of the Ray Lovelock interview almost ready - I want these all to go out together)

Almost there...  :P
Title: Re: Doppia coppia con Regina / Alta tensiòn (Julio Buchs, 1972)
Post by: DjangoLi on 11 Jun 2013 - 10:30
Thought I'd update this thread one last time - The 'crudelia' TVRip (xvid) that's on CG isn't the same as the Telenorba (DVDR) print that's circulating - and it has the last part which I mentioned above intact (Marisa Mell drawing the gun) It's also a lot less 'orange' than the Telenorba print, but lacks the definition.

Title: Re: Doppia coppia con Regina / Alta tensiòn (Julio Buchs, 1972)
Post by: daraioargento on 28 Jun 2013 - 04:01
Fansubbed composite soon to be uploaded at CG in two versions.

The telenorba print, slightly colour corrected with inserts from the spanish version, runtime is now 82 mins, fansubbed by the mighty Djangoli. Due to antenna probs this print was missing some of the end!!!. Thats been added using the spanish print as the Aspect ratios are closer.

The other print, with spanish inserts , this version is slightly longer by 20 odd seconds but is cropped more severely.

Version 1

(http://i.imgur.com/HH28sVo.png)

Version 2

(http://i.imgur.com/uFUdZDA.png)
Title: Re: Doppia coppia con Regina / Alta tensiòn (Julio Buchs, 1972)
Post by: Strigoyu on 28 Jun 2013 - 09:50
A great job, indeed, mate! Thanks for all!
Title: Re: Doppia coppia con Regina / Alta tensiòn (Julio Buchs, 1972)
Post by: aerodynamics on 28 Jun 2013 - 15:50
Excellent, thanks for putting this together.  I'll look forward to downloading this one.
Title: Re: Doppia coppia con Regina / Alta tensiòn (Julio Buchs, 1972)
Post by: daraioargento on 29 Jun 2013 - 17:07
It's uploading at CG now!

Title: Re: Doppia coppia con Regina / Alta tensiòn (Julio Buchs, 1972)
Post by: udobroemme on 17 Apr 2016 - 17:55
I've just finished a new composite and uploaded it to CG. I used the Telenorba print and inserted the missing shots from the RAI version. Some colour corrections have been applied to correct the oversaturation of the TN and the yellowish tone of the RAI print:
(http://i.imgur.com/ovmpOeM.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/oJt1egg.png)

A bigger challenge was the sequence which only was available in Spanish, but I think I was able to make it fit to the rest as much as possible:
(http://i.imgur.com/g8rmxFY.png)