Euro Cult Movie Forum => Blu-ray/DVD Company release archive => Topic started by: bdc on 21 May 2010 - 15:03

Title: Cinekult (Italy)
Post by: bdc on 21 May 2010 - 15:03
A new Italian dvd label distributed by Cecchi Gori.

Announced:
• Chi Sei?
• Con la Rabbia Agli Occhi
• Disposta A Tutto
• Eleven Days, Eleven Nights
• I Carabbimatti
• Il Delitto Del Diavolo
• Il Saprofita
• Keoma
• Satanik / The Diabolikal Super-Kriminal (2 DVD)
• Top Model

http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=401608533837


Title: Re: Cinemakult (Italy)
Post by: Jonny on 21 May 2010 - 15:11
Sounds good!

Can't wait to see how their DVD of Il Delitto Del Diavolo (Queens of Evil) turns out!

(http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/426/dvdlc.jpg)
Title: Re: Cinemakult (Italy)
Post by: bdc on 21 May 2010 - 16:03
Yep!  :D
Also very interested in Satanik and The Diabolical Super-Kriminal docu.

Seems there's no real info about language tracks or subs yet,Kultvideo lists only Italian audio so far.
Title: Re: Cinemakult (Italy)
Post by: Gary B. on 23 May 2010 - 00:06
Some of these are must-haves...i'm excited!  English options would only sweeten the deal  :'(
Title: Re: Cinemakult (Italy)
Post by: kultvideo on 16 Jul 2010 - 22:33
Quality looks fine, and there are a lot of good interviews in each dvd; but Italian is the only audio language option.
Title: Re: Cinemakult (Italy)
Post by: djvaso on 20 Sep 2010 - 13:27
Several titles are due in November:
-Vamos A Matar Companeros
-Voto di Castita'
-Il trucido e Lo Sbirro
-Una Spirale di Nebbia
Title: Re: Cinemakult (Italy)
Post by: bdc on 09 Jan 2011 - 10:01
- La Orca dvd
- Oedipus Orca dvd
- Violenza in un carcere feminine dvd
- Donatella dvd
- Wild beasts dvd
- Blade Violent dvd
- Diamanti sporchi di sangue dvd
- Meglio baciare un cobra dvd
- Shadow dvd/blu-ray/dvd+blu-Ray+fumetto (ltd)
- Zombi 2 dvd
- Zombi 3 dvd
- After Death (Zombi 4) dvd
- Killing Birds (Zombi 5) dvd
- Virus (Hell of the Living Dead) dvd
- Zombi Holocaust dvd

Announced?
Satanik will be getting a separate dvd release apparently.
Flavia La Monaca Musulmana dvd
La Banda Del Trucido dvd
Se sei vivo spara dvd
Squadra Volante dvd
Title: Re: Cinemakult (Italy)
Post by: kultvideo on 09 Jan 2011 - 21:48
Next March realeases :

- Le monache di Sant'Arcangelo
- Il Corpo
Title: Re: Cinemakult (Italy)
Post by: broonage on 10 Jan 2011 - 08:30
Virus on Blu!!
Title: Re: Cinemakult (Italy)
Post by: quidtum on 11 Jan 2011 - 09:31
All the releases are edited by Manlio Gomarasca from Nocturno, extras are told to be very rich  :-\
Title: Re: Cinemakult (Italy)
Post by: bdc on 11 Jan 2011 - 18:48
If these releases had English options,they would be selling like hot cakes...
Title: Re: Cinemakult (Italy)
Post by: Ash595 on 11 Jan 2011 - 20:13
- La Orca
- Oedipus Orca
- Violenza in un carcere feminine
- Donatella
- Wild beasts
- Blade Violent
- Diamanti sporchi di sangue
- Meglio baciare un cobra
- Shadow:
Dvd
Blu-ray
Dvd+Blu-Ray+Fumetto (Ltd)
- Zombi 2
- Zombi 3
- After Death (Zombi 4)
- Killing Birds (Zombi 5)
- Virus (Hell of the Living Dead)
- Zombi Holocaust

Announced?
Satanik will be getting a separate release apparently.
Flavia La Monaca Musulmana
La Banda Del Trucido
Se sei vivo spara
Squadra Volante

Sorry, but I don't understand which films are released on dvd and which ones on Blu-Ray  ?
Title: Re: Cinemakult (Italy)
Post by: broonage on 12 Jan 2011 - 07:42
If these releases had English options,they would be selling like hot cakes...

Exactly!! Damn shame!
Title: Re: Cinemakult (Italy)
Post by: bdc on 12 Jan 2011 - 18:43
- La Orca
- Oedipus Orca
- Violenza in un carcere feminine
- Donatella
- Wild beasts
- Blade Violent
- Diamanti sporchi di sangue
- Meglio baciare un cobra
- Shadow:
Dvd
Blu-ray
Dvd+Blu-Ray+Fumetto (Ltd)
- Zombi 2
- Zombi 3
- After Death (Zombi 4)
- Killing Birds (Zombi 5)
- Virus (Hell of the Living Dead)
- Zombi Holocaust

Announced?
Satanik will be getting a separate release apparently.
Flavia La Monaca Musulmana
La Banda Del Trucido
Se sei vivo spara
Squadra Volante

Sorry, but I don't understand which films are released on dvd and which ones on Blu-Ray  ?
All dvd only except Shadow (Dvd/Blu-ray/Dvd+Blu-Ray+Fumetto (Ltd))
Title: Re: Cinemakult (Italy)
Post by: broonage on 13 Jan 2011 - 08:09
Damn it i misread it then bruno. I thought it said Virus on blu (along with Zombi 2 etc). Oh well.
Title: Re: Cinemakult (Italy)
Post by: bdc on 13 Jan 2011 - 18:44
Ouch!
I guess I should have been clearer...I've modified my original post.  :D
Title: Re: Cinemakult (Italy)
Post by: broonage on 14 Jan 2011 - 08:08
 :-\
Title: Re: Cinemakult (Italy)
Post by: djvaso on 10 Feb 2011 - 22:54
Dellamorte Dellamore (CE) (2 Dvd) (http://www.amazon.it/Dellamorte-Dellamore-CE-2-Dvd/dp/B004JRJ1VO)
Also Blu-ray on 5th of April
Source: zabriskiepoint.net (http://www.zabriskiepoint.net/node/11744)
Title: Re: Cinekult (Italy)
Post by: Stephen Grimes on 06 Oct 2011 - 19:01
Cinekult are really on a roll at the moment,forthcoming titles include:
LA MANO CHE NUTRE LA MORTE (Sergio Garrone)
LE AMANTI DEL MOSTRO (Sergio Garrone)
GOODBYE AND AMEN (Damiano Damiani)
TERZA IPOTESI SU UN CASO DI PERFETTA STRATEGIA CRIMINALE* (Giuseppe Vari) with 2 hardcore scenes!  
MALA,AMORE E MORTE (Tiziano Longo)


*Who Killed the Prosecuter and Why?
Title: Re: Cinekult (Italy)
Post by: bdc on 01 Jan 2012 - 09:35
Does anyone know which Cinekult discs are English friendly?
Title: Re: Cinekult (Italy)
Post by: djvaso on 01 Jan 2012 - 14:52
Does anyone know which Cinekult discs are English friendly?
I don't have any of these releases but according to back cover the following discs have English audio: Malamore, Se sei vivo spara, Squadra volante, Rats - Notte di terrore & Svezia inferno e paradiso.
Title: Re: Cinekult (Italy)
Post by: bdc on 01 Jan 2012 - 20:02
Thanks!  ;)
Title: Re: Cinekult (Italy)
Post by: Stephen Grimes on 01 Jan 2012 - 20:02
Does anyone know which Cinekult discs are English friendly?
Malamore
A nice little film from Eriprando Visconti,just a shame the English track has non-removeable Italian subs.
Title: Re: Cinekult (Italy)
Post by: DjangoLi on 01 Jan 2012 - 20:41
Another one from Cinekult due on the 18th of this month...

http://www.kultvideo.com//articles/ArticleSheet.aspx?aid=11935
Title: Re: Cinekult (Italy)
Post by: djvaso on 01 Jan 2012 - 21:47
Another one from Cinekult due on the 18th of this month...

http://www.kultvideo.com//articles/ArticleSheet.aspx?aid=11935

Not only this but also:
Le amanti del mostro,
Il dolce corpo di Deborah;
and in February:
Enigma rosso,
La mano che nutre la morte,
L'assassino... è al telefono.


Title: Re: Cinekult (Italy)
Post by: Stephen Grimes on 01 Jan 2012 - 22:05
According to head honcho Davide Pulici we should be seeing the following in March:
FROM CORLEONE TO BROOKLYN (Umberto Lenzi)
DEATH SMILED AT MURDER/LA MORTE HA SORRISO ALL' ASSASSINO (Joe D'amato)
THE LAST HUNTER (Antonio Margheriti)

I also seem to remember reading something about a release of Riccardo Ghione's IL PRATO MACCHIATO DI ROSSO aka THE BLOODSTAINED LAWN.
Title: Re: Cinekult (Italy)
Post by: DjangoLi on 02 Jan 2012 - 02:11
I also seem to remember reading something about a release of Riccardo Ghione's IL PRATO MACCHIATO DI ROSSO aka THE BLOODSTAINED LAWN.

Although it isn't the best of the bunch you mention - that's the one I'd be most hopeful for. The copy that's kicking about is abysmal (to say the least) It always puzzled me how they got Lucio Dalla, a respected singer/songwriter to both appear in it and provide the catchy theme tune? It really is a no-budget giallo, on a par with 'La Polizia Brancola nel Buio'... Still, perhaps a crisp transfer might elevate it a few notches - if only in the so bad it's good stakes.

Fingers crossed :)

Title: Re: Cinekult (Italy)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 02 Jan 2012 - 03:11
FROM CORLEONE TO BROOKLYN (Umberto Lenzi)
Any English options?
Title: Re: Cinekult (Italy)
Post by: Paul on 02 Jan 2012 - 09:23
FROM CORLEONE TO BROOKLYN (Umberto Lenzi)
Any English options?

Aren't Cinekult releases Italian only?
EDIT: scrub that, there's a post above mentions that some are English friendly.
Title: Re: Cinekult (Italy)
Post by: Stephen Grimes on 02 Jan 2012 - 09:49
Any English options?
No idea,mate.
Title: Re: Cinekult (Italy)
Post by: Stephen Grimes on 02 Jan 2012 - 15:19
Waiting for this one to arrive anyday now.
Aka WHO KILLED THE PROSECUTER AND WHY?.
Extras include two deleted hardcore scenes!

(http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/7435/img326342lrg.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/687/img326342lrg.jpg/)

Title: Re: Cinekult (Italy)
Post by: Funktion on 02 Jan 2012 - 23:30
I should be receiving their release of Venere in pelliccia / Le malizie di Venere.
It's listed as having an English language track. Does anyone know if the Italian subtitles are non-removable?
Title: Re: Cinekult (Italy)
Post by: bdc on 26 Feb 2012 - 10:08
Cinekult already have released an impressive collection of films...  ;)

http://www.kultvideo.com/special/ArticlesPerLabel.aspx?tid=1&lid=754 (http://www.kultvideo.com/special/ArticlesPerLabel.aspx?tid=1&lid=754)
Title: Re: Cinekult (Italy)
Post by: lordretsudo on 04 Mar 2012 - 12:41
I have re-synced an English audio track to fit WHO KILLED THE PROSECTOR AND WHY? If anyone wants to add it to their DVD, I could upload it somewhere.

I've also made custom subtitles for THE KILLER... IS ON THE TELEPHONE. They're here, for anyone who wants them: http://www.mediafire.com/?rvzdv3rowsk3aa4 (http://www.mediafire.com/?rvzdv3rowsk3aa4)

Cinekult seem like a great company. Hopefully, I'll be making some more customs using their releases.
Title: Re: Cinekult (Italy)
Post by: DjangoLi on 10 Mar 2012 - 12:34
Hats off again to Cinekult - it seems Interrabang is due to be released on DVD in May...

Title: Re: Cinekult (Italy)
Post by: Funktion on 26 Jun 2012 - 00:53
I only own a couple of Cinekult's releases.

Can anyone recommend me a few more, preferably English-friendly (I know only a couple are) or with decent extras (deleted footage, ...)?
Title: Re: Cinekult (Italy)
Post by: Luca Canali on 01 Oct 2012 - 19:11
Cinekult are on a roll at the moment having just released Alfonso Brescia's Naked Girl Killed In The Park (1973), they're following up next month with The Devil Has Seven Faces (1973), Il Prato Macchiato di Rosso (1973) and the John Phillip Law / Fernando Rey sleazefest Eyes Behind the Wall (1977). Particularly looking forward to the latter finally in decent quality. No English options by the looks of it but plenty of fan sub/dub potential there.
Title: Re: Cinekult (Italy)
Post by: Longsden on 01 Oct 2012 - 19:28
I only own a couple of Cinekult's releases.

Can anyone recommend me a few more, preferably English-friendly (I know only a couple are) or with decent extras (deleted footage, ...)?

Here here
Title: Re: Re: Cinekult (Italy)
Post by: Jonny on 01 Oct 2012 - 19:50
Cinekult are on a roll at the moment having just released Alfonso Brescia's Naked Girl Killed In The Park (1973), they're following up next month with The Devil Has Seven Faces (1973), Il Prato Macchiato di Rosso (1973) and the John Phillip Law / Fernando Rey sleazefest Eyes Behind the Wall (1977). Particularly looking forward to the latter finally in decent quality. No English options by the looks of it but plenty of fan sub/dub potential there.

Looking forward to EYES BEHIND THE WALL best copy I have us the old Luminous version which is pretty ropey.
Title: Re: Cinekult (Italy)
Post by: bdc on 03 Oct 2012 - 21:10
Don't think this has been mentioned,it seems to be quite notorious though.

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51CQawlBsYL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
Title: Re: Cinekult (Italy)
Post by: babybreese on 04 Oct 2012 - 17:13
Saw this on their site for a very reasonable price but have not heard any word on the quality.  The fansubbed version is pretty much an eyesore.  The opening sequence is so over the top the rest of the film never quite recovers.
Title: Re: Cinekult (Italy)
Post by: Hellochas on 04 Oct 2012 - 20:51
http://www.cghv.it/f20275/BESTIALITA (http://www.cghv.it/f20275/BESTIALITA)
Title: Re: Cinekult (Italy)
Post by: Hellochas on 05 Oct 2012 - 14:59
Just ordered this one here:
 
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=251149637615 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=251149637615)
 
Make him an offer, I got €2 off mine after offering €10…
Title: Re: Cinekult (Italy)
Post by: DjangoLi on 09 Nov 2012 - 16:05
Screencaps of 'Il Prato Macchiato di Rosso' have been posted on the gentedirispetto forums:

http://www.gentedirispetto.com/forum/showthread.php?11239-Il-prato-macchiato-di-rosso (http://www.gentedirispetto.com/forum/showthread.php?11239-Il-prato-macchiato-di-rosso)

Looks like another super sharp transfer from Cinekult.  ::)
Title: Re: Cinekult (Italy)
Post by: Jonny on 09 Nov 2012 - 18:45
Screencaps of 'Il Prato Macchiato di Rosso' have been posted on the gentedirispetto forums:

http://www.gentedirispetto.com/forum/showthread.php?11239-Il-prato-macchiato-di-rosso (http://www.gentedirispetto.com/forum/showthread.php?11239-Il-prato-macchiato-di-rosso)

Looks like another super sharp transfer from Cinekult.  ::)


Cool! Those caps look great!
Title: Re: Cinekult (Italy)
Post by: Luca Canali on 09 Nov 2012 - 18:48
Screencaps of 'Il Prato Macchiato di Rosso' have been posted on the gentedirispetto forums:

http://www.gentedirispetto.com/forum/showthread.php?11239-Il-prato-macchiato-di-rosso (http://www.gentedirispetto.com/forum/showthread.php?11239-Il-prato-macchiato-di-rosso)

Looks like another super sharp transfer from Cinekult.  ::)


Cheers mate, will definitely be picking this up as well as the latest batch from Kult asap!
I do love these CineKult discs. Normally great quality and excellent choices of titles for release.
Title: Re: Cinekult (Italy)
Post by: djvaso on 22 Nov 2012 - 14:42
Italian release of Django is scheduled for December 4, 2012.
Audio: English Dolby Digital 2.0 (?!), Italian Dolby Digital 2.0
Extras:
- L'uomo con la bara, Interviews with Quentin Tarantino, Franco Nero, Luis Bacalov, Piero Vivarelli, Gilberto Galimberti
- Trailer
- International Trailer
- Photo Gallery
Title: Re: Cinekult (Italy)
Post by: bdc on 13 Apr 2013 - 18:52
Is Cinekult really gone?
Title: Re: Cinekult (Italy)
Post by: Vizzini on 14 Apr 2013 - 08:42
Yes, apparently their DVDs were poor sellers :-(
Title: Re: Cinekult (Italy)
Post by: bdc on 14 Apr 2013 - 09:08
I was thinking they would be to be honest, even though they released great titles in great quality...  :o

Weren't they a dvd company started by some big name rightsholder to get their remastered  titles out btw?
Title: Re: Cinekult (Italy)
Post by: fenriz on 14 Apr 2013 - 11:41
Really sad, they start the company only 2 years ago..
Title: Re: Cinekult (Italy)
Post by: Vizzini on 14 Apr 2013 - 11:42
I think Cinekult wasn't exactly a DVD company, but only a "brand" owned by Cecchi Gori Home Video.
Title: Re: Cinekult (Italy)
Post by: Funktion on 14 Apr 2013 - 11:49
Yes, apparently their DVD were poor sellers :-(
Vizzini, are you by any chance Saimo from the Blu-Ray.com forums (I ask this because of the blog from your signature)?
If you are, funny to see you at another forum.  :P
I asked you for a few recommendations a few days ago, which you were kind enough to provide.

Anyway, does anyone have a full list of their releases, including those who were also available on BD (I have a couple of BD from them, including Dellamorte Dellamore and Shadow)?
Can anyone let me know which ones are English-friendly, and from those that aren't, which ones are must buys (either because of the high-quality of the transfers and/or film, or significant or rare extras such as deleted scenes, like Terza ipotesi su un caso di perfetta strategia criminale)?

I'm going to try to pick up a few releases I'm missing.

It's sad to see another genre label/sublabel go away...  :o

Title: Re: Cinekult (Italy)
Post by: demented_uk on 14 Apr 2013 - 13:44
Sad but inevitable, the Italian market for these must be quite small yet if they provided English subtitles they would have increased their sales. I've recently picked up all the titles I wanted and, as far as I am aware, none of their releases that I own are English friendly. It's thanks to hard work of subbers like DjangoLi and fan DVD producers like Dario Argento that we are able to access these in English.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/14/8a7esuhy.jpg)
Title: Re: Cinekult (Italy)
Post by: Luca Canali on 14 Apr 2013 - 15:27
Very sad & disappointing news. I think if they'd made the effort to include English options, then they would still be in business.


@ Funktion - As Demented_UK said, none of their releases are English friendly to my knowledge (at least none of the ones that I have are) - but all releases of interest have been custom fan dubbed or subbed.


Try this link to KultVideo for a list of their releases: http://www.kultvideo.com/special/ArticlesPerLabel.aspx?__lang=it-IT&lid=754&tid=1 (http://www.kultvideo.com/special/ArticlesPerLabel.aspx?__lang=it-IT&lid=754&tid=1)


I'll be picking up the titles I missed next month before they go OOP.
Title: Re: Cinekult (Italy)
Post by: Funktion on 14 Apr 2013 - 15:36
@Luca Canali - They have a small number of releases that are English friendly (they include an English audio track), I own a few of them myself (Dellamorte Dellamore, Venere in pelliccia / Le malizie di Venere, Shadow, ...).
Title: Re: Cinekult (Italy)
Post by: Vizzini on 14 Apr 2013 - 15:37
Quote
Vizzini, are you by any chance Saimo from the Blu-Ray.com forums (I ask this because of the blog from your signature)?
Yes, I am  :D  :P

Quote
the Italian market for these must be quite small yet if they provided English subtitles they would have increased their sales.
Of course, with English subtitles they would have gained a much wider audience, but Italian labels often work on such a tiny budget that they simply can't afford that. Currently Italian market is such depressing and small, you can't even think big...
Title: Re: Cinekult (Italy)
Post by: DjangoLi on 14 Apr 2013 - 19:05
Quote
Vizzini, are you by any chance Saimo from the Blu-Ray.com forums (I ask this because of the blog from your signature)?
Yes, I am  :D  :P

Quote
the Italian market for these must be quite small yet if they provided English subtitles they would have increased their sales.
Of course, with English subtitles they would have gained a much wider audience, but Italian labels often work on such a tiny budget that they simply can't afford that. Currently Italian market is such depressing and small, you can't even think big...

A shame to see them go... definitely.

If their releases were English friendly from the start there's every chance they would still be around now. Still, let's be grateful for what they gave us - and they did unearth some beautiful prints of some very obscure films.

Title: Re: Cinekult (Italy)
Post by: bdc on 01 Jun 2013 - 13:20
Are they back?
Noticed this:
http://www.amazon.it/Django-2-Il-Grande-Ritorno/dp/B00C2BR33M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1370092688&sr=8-1&keywords=django+2 (http://www.amazon.it/Django-2-Il-Grande-Ritorno/dp/B00C2BR33M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1370092688&sr=8-1&keywords=django+2)
Title: Re: Cinekult (Italy)
Post by: quidtum on 01 Jun 2013 - 13:48
Are they back?
It's by Mustang Entertainment, a brand new label operating in home video and using the CG Home Video salesmen's network, hence the dvd cover
http://www.hitechweb.info/migliavacca-duradoni-nasce-mustang-entertainment/ (http://www.hitechweb.info/migliavacca-duradoni-nasce-mustang-entertainment/)
Title: Re: Cinekult (Italy)
Post by: bdc on 01 Jun 2013 - 16:29
Are they back?
It's by Mustang Entertainment, a brand new label operating in home video and using the CG Home Video salesmen's network, hence the dvd cover
http://www.hitechweb.info/migliavacca-duradoni-nasce-mustang-entertainment/ (http://www.hitechweb.info/migliavacca-duradoni-nasce-mustang-entertainment/)

Thanks for the info,wondering if they'll release more (and with English subs)... ;)
Title: Re: Cinekult (Italy)
Post by: quidtum on 01 Jun 2013 - 16:43
Yes, more releases (but already issued by other labels) to come next by that label Mustang
Sella d'argento by L. Fulci
Una pistola per Ringo by D. Tessari
Non più di uno by B. Pelosso
Nero veneziano by U. Liberatore
Matalo by C. Canevari
I giorni dell'ira by T. Valerii
and Italian sexy comedies, Italian classics, crime, giallo movies and so on...but nothing unearthed from the hidden gems vaults...
http://www.eprice.it/s/film-e-dvd&zz=/&br=MUSTANG%20ENTERTAINMENT&pp=1 (http://www.eprice.it/s/film-e-dvd&zz=/&br=MUSTANG%20ENTERTAINMENT&pp=1)
I don't think the dvds are provided by English subs, it's simply a reprint of other catalogues, I guess...
Title: Re: Cinekult (Italy)
Post by: Vizzini on 04 Jun 2013 - 18:12
Yes, they are supposed to reprint OOP DVDs from Medusa catalogue...
Title: Re: Cinekult (Italy)
Post by: DjangoLi on 09 Jul 2013 - 21:34
Thought I'd share the good news here:

Cinekult appear to be back in action, this quote was from Davide Pulici's FB page on the 8th of July....

"tanto tuonò che non piovve: "ok, riprendiamo con Cinekult. Il primo lotto è Nosferatu a Venezia (Mustang), La moglie più bella e La bocca" D.PULICI su facebook 8/7/2012"

It basically means let's pick up again with Cinekult - Nosferatu.... is a Mustang release (as noted above) but La Moglie Piu Bella... looks like it's a Cinekult release.

Probably not English friendly (as usual) but it's great news all the same.

English subs/dubs can always be patched up later  ::) I did offer my services for free, regarding subs... doubt they'll actually take me up on the offer though.



Title: Re: Cinekult (Italy)
Post by: demented_uk on 09 Jul 2013 - 21:58
Great news, thanks for posting, mate. Let's hope we get more unreleased gialli and poliziotteschi.
Title: Re: Cinekult (Italy)
Post by: quidtum on 10 Jul 2013 - 10:56
I did offer my services for free, regarding subs... doubt they'll actually take me up on the offer though.
They won't because these are actual conditions to respect when issuing a movie on a DVD for a market, it's simply a thing determined by commercial and distribution contracts.
Title: Re: Cinekult (Italy)
Post by: DjangoLi on 10 Jul 2013 - 12:05
I did offer my services for free, regarding subs... doubt they'll actually take me up on the offer though.
They won't because these are actual conditions to respect when issuing a movie on a DVD for a market, it's simply a thing determined by commercial and distribution contracts.

Yeah, I fully agree - but the fact that anyone can buy a Cinekult DVD, regardless of what country they are in, with just a few mouse clicks makes that point completely redundant in the real world.

Blue Underground, Severin, Cinekult, RARO, FilmArt, Camera Obscura, etc... only have the rights to these films in their respective countries... so anyone (for example) buying a Camera Obscura disc outside of Germany is, in fact, breaking the terms and conditions the rights holders laid out to Camera Obscura. They only have the rights to sell their discs in Germany... and so on.

You are perfectly right Quidtum, hence my comment that they probably won't be contacting me anytime soon... but it's a situation that makes very little sense.

I also wonder what kind of dialogue these people actually have with the rights holders? One universal release would yield them far more cash than six or seven staggered releases that barely sell... The only comments I've heard 'behind the scenes' is that a lot of these companies aren't particularly friendly to each other - and therein lies the problem, it all boils down to cash at the end of the day. The films come in second, hence the endless re-issues of the same films... over and over again.

I don't take much joy in working on the Cinekult customs - I would rather they were English friendly from the start - and the extra money they make would go back into getting more 'new' titles released.  Is there any chance these films would have gotten a release if we hadn't made these customs? Nope, there's fuck all to suggest they would (see my previous point)

Some more food for thought (and completely unrelated to my above points - but it might give some people an idea of the bigger picture)

Interviewing Umberto Lenzi I was surprised to learn that all these films we know and love only had a shelf-life of just 5 years - after that time the prints were destroyed. Bear in mind that right up until the late 70's and early 80's there was no hope of these films being screened on national television because they were (at that time) generally considered too violent, or sexually explicit. It wasn't until the private channels reared their heads that this all changed - the only downside, of course, is that they also played a key part in killing the industry as people could now stay at home and watch these films instead of paying to go to the cinema.... It didn't kill the industry (many of these channels were essentially pirate channels and didn't pay the rights holders anything) but it was a significant factor in the decline and then (almost) demise.

Umberto Lenzi (as an example) hasn't made a penny from any VHS or DVD release, along with all his contemporaries, the only time they see any financial return is when their films are screened on national television here in Italy. There's a law that states that royalties must be paid to the director, composer, and scriptwriter. It's this money that allows a lot of these people to survive.... not from any sale of a DVD or Blu-Ray disc.



Title: Re: Cinekult (Italy)
Post by: Vizzini on 10 Jul 2013 - 13:00
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Umberto Lenzi (as an example) hasn't made a penny from any VHS or DVD release, along with all his contemporaries, the only time they see any financial return is when their films are screened on national television here in Italy. There's a law that states that royalties must be paid to the director, composer, and scriptwriter. It's this money that allows a lot of these people to survive.... not from any sale of a DVD or Blu-Ray disc.
This is not entirely correct: directors, writers and composers actually get some royalties from DVDs and blu-rays, but admittedly these fees are very very low. I know this for sure because an Italian friend of mine had a couple of his films released on DVD and he obtained some hundred euros as royalties (the so-called "equo compenso").
Title: Re: Cinekult (Italy)
Post by: Farmer_J on 12 Nov 2014 - 12:06
I've just ordered some things off of Cinekult, and I got the message to go the "My Kult Video" panel, but when I do, it says I have no orders. Anyone else have this problem?