Euro Cult Movie Forum => Horror => Topic started by: Inspector Tanzi on 22 Aug 2010 - 23:11

Title: The Loreley's Grasp / Las garras de Lorelei ( Amando de Ossorio, 1974)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 22 Aug 2010 - 23:11
Tony Kendall stars as the man hired to protect a girls boarding school from the Lorelei, a mythical creature that appears, tears up its victims and eats their hearts! The head of the school played by the beautiful Silvia Tortosa distrusts Kendall at first and doesn't like him near the girls.

He falls for another woman who it turns out transforms into the Lorelei, even though he loves her he knows he must put a stop to the carnage.

Though not as good as Tombs of the Blind Dead this is a worthy film from De Ossorio and some of the killings are quite graphic (you get to see chests ripped open and hearts torn out!) and there are some really nice atmospheric moments, the film is let down slightly by the creature itself which is really quite laughable but at the end of the day it probably adds to the fun.

(http://i437.photobucket.com/albums/qq98/spara73/spara2/loreleyb.jpg)

Title: Re: The Loreley's Grasp / Las garras de Lorelei ( Amando de Ossorio, 1974)
Post by: Luca Canali on 23 Aug 2010 - 10:33
I'm quite a fan of this film and have the special edition you pictured above. I think it's pretty effective for what it is and I even quite like the monster! Kind of reminds me of a cheaper version of Hammer's 'Reptile'.
Title: Re: The Loreley's Grasp / Las garras de Lorelei ( Amando de Ossorio, 1974)
Post by: babybreese on 25 Aug 2010 - 13:36
The gore is a bit silly but keeps things lively.  Helga Line is very good in her role, and the film has a strange, romantic and haunting quality that lend it a horror / fantasy quality.  I would have liked to see more scenes in the Loreley's liar....a missed opportunity there.
I have the old WHEN THE SCREAMING STOPS tape withthe red flashes that warned viewers of impending gore shots :)
Thankfully these are not part of BCI's excellent DVD.
Title: Re: The Loreley's Grasp / Las garras de Lorelei ( Amando de Ossorio, 1974)
Post by: Michael Blanton on 25 Aug 2010 - 15:48
It's been a while since I saw it, but I remember it having a nice Lovecraftian vibe.
Title: Re: The Loreley's Grasp / Las garras de Lorelei ( Amando de Ossorio, 1974)
Post by: romantico on 04 Sep 2010 - 14:58
This one is one of my favorites . I love the locations and the character of the blind man talking about the legend of lorelei . Also the sexy women . Helga line did alot of great films including black candles .  ::)
Title: Re: The Loreley's Grasp / Las garras de Lorelei ( Amando de Ossorio, 1974)
Post by: ecc on 04 Sep 2010 - 22:44
The gore is a bit silly but keeps things lively.  Helga Line is very good in her role, and the film has a strange, romantic and haunting quality that lend it a horror / fantasy quality.  I would have liked to see more scenes in the Loreley's liar....a missed opportunity there.
I have the old WHEN THE SCREAMING STOPS tape withthe red flashes that warned viewers of impending gore shots :)
Thankfully these are not part of BCI's excellent DVD.

I've seen that version.  Besides the BCI disc, I've got the cut UK tape and the uncut but dark and scratchy Dutch tape.
Title: Re: The Loreley's Grasp / Las garras de Lorelei ( Amando de Ossorio, 1974)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 17 Jan 2014 - 18:35
Released end of March.



(http://i437.photobucket.com/albums/qq98/spara73/spara2/81stCtx-9JL_SL1500_.jpg)

Title: Re: The Loreley's Grasp / Las garras de Lorelei ( Amando de Ossorio, 1974)
Post by: tenebre6 on 12 Apr 2014 - 12:23
moved to June now :(
Title: Re: The Loreley's Grasp / Las garras de Lorelei ( Amando de Ossorio, 1974)
Post by: Funktion on 12 Apr 2014 - 19:21
moved to June now :(
Where did you see that?

It was delayed to May a while back, and that's the date I see on every online store.
Title: Re: The Loreley's Grasp / Las garras de Lorelei ( Amando de Ossorio, 1974)
Post by: babybreese on 06 Jul 2014 - 13:11
Mine is shipping from Diabolik, but have not heard a peep about the quality of this one yet.
Hoping it's not an upcovert of the same master BCI used.  Anyone seen this yet?
Title: Re: The Loreley's Grasp / Las garras de Lorelei ( Amando de Ossorio, 1974)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 06 Jul 2014 - 14:12
I'v had it about a month or more but haven't opened it yet.
Title: Re: The Loreley's Grasp / Las garras de Lorelei ( Amando de Ossorio, 1974)
Post by: demented_uk on 06 Jul 2014 - 15:31
Avoid, avoid, avoid! It's a nasty up convert; you are much better off sticking with the DVD. German Blu-Rays can be really hit and miss as so many of the cult titles are upconverts or 1080i. I really want the German Blu-Ray release of DEATH FORCE, but I'm waiting for a review before I take the plunge.
Title: Re: The Loreley's Grasp / Las garras de Lorelei ( Amando de Ossorio, 1974)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 06 Jul 2014 - 20:51
Avoid, avoid, avoid! It's a nasty up convert; you are much better off sticking with the DVD. German Blu-Rays can be really hit and miss as so many of the cult titles are upconverts or 1080i. I really want the German Blu-Ray release of DEATH FORCE, but I'm waiting for a review before I take the plunge.
Bollocks, I'll have to sell it then.
Title: Re: The Loreley's Grasp / Las garras de Lorelei ( Amando de Ossorio, 1974)
Post by: the blob on 10 Jul 2014 - 10:26
And I sold my BCI DVD a couple of months ago in preparation. Great news.  :(
Title: Re: The Loreley's Grasp / Las garras de Lorelei ( Amando de Ossorio, 1974)
Post by: babybreese on 12 Jul 2014 - 12:22
I took a look at mine last night, it looks almost exactly like the BCI DVD,
except it appears to have no day for night tinting.
Maybe the German DVD has no tinting & they just used that one?
 :( indeed
Title: Re: The Loreley's Grasp / Las garras de Lorelei ( Amando de Ossorio, 1974)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 14 Jul 2014 - 19:33
The cunts must know they've released a wrong 'un release too, it seems to be cheaper already now.
Title: Re: The Loreley's Grasp / Las garras de Lorelei ( Amando de Ossorio, 1974)
Post by: the blob on 14 Jul 2014 - 22:07
I'm assuming there's definitely no English subs for the Spanish track? If I'm going to end up with DVD quality I'll probably just try to get the BCI one again sometime when I can get it cheap enough.
Title: Re: The Loreley's Grasp / Las garras de Lorelei ( Amando de Ossorio, 1974)
Post by: Clive on 16 Jul 2014 - 02:51
Definitely no English subs
Title: Re: The Loreley's Grasp / Las garras de Lorelei ( Amando de Ossorio, 1974)
Post by: bdc on 22 Jul 2014 - 18:43
Glad I waited for the reviews.  :D
Title: Re: The Loreley's Grasp / Las garras de Lorelei ( Amando de Ossorio, 1974)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 22 Jul 2014 - 18:48
Glad I waited for the reviews.  :D
Do you wait for the reviews for Code Red discs before you buy them to see what they are like?  Or do you just buy them regardless and if they do turn out to be poor defend them to the hilt and justify it?  ;D 
Title: Re: The Loreley's Grasp / Las garras de Lorelei ( Amando de Ossorio, 1974)
Post by: bdc on 23 Jul 2014 - 11:03
I've had some really mixed experiences with the German releases.
You must know by now CR releases are at least decent.  :D
Title: Re: The Loreley's Grasp / Las garras de Lorelei ( Amando de Ossorio, 1974)
Post by: Funktion on 23 Jul 2014 - 11:18
I've had some really mixed experiences with the German releases.
You must know by now CR releases are at least decent.  :D

Considering the country where I bought more BD releases from this year is Germany, my experiences with German releases have been quite positive. You just have to know there are 2-3 labels to avoid, since they always release upscalled content, usually in 1080i.
The website http://www.bluray-disc.de/ (http://www.bluray-disc.de/) is quite useful to gather some info on cut/uncut status, and disc specs.

As for Code Red, I recently bought their first 7 BD releases, and I only wish the transfers on those were on par with most German releases I bought, since most CR BDs have significant compression problems.

Bill mentioned not long ago that he doesn't even own a BD player. I don't know if that is still true, but maybe he should get someone familiar with the format to help him out with his releases, since it would surely result is better products.
Title: Re: The Loreley's Grasp / Las garras de Lorelei ( Amando de Ossorio, 1974)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 23 Jul 2014 - 11:50
You just have to know there are 2-3 labels to avoid, since they always release upscalled content, usually in 1080i.
What ones, Funktion?
Title: Re: The Loreley's Grasp / Las garras de Lorelei ( Amando de Ossorio, 1974)
Post by: Funktion on 23 Jul 2014 - 12:02
What ones, Funktion?

Lighthouse Home Entertainment is one of them.
VZ-Handelsgesellschaft mbH is another (the later is also a distributor for DigiDreams Studios releases, which usually aren't upscales, but have other problems: their owner hates film grain, so their releases usually have extreme use of DNR).

There are a couple more. I'll let you know when I remember.  ;D
The website I posted (http://www.bluray-disc.de/ (http://www.bluray-disc.de/)) is quite useful to gather info on German releases, especially regarding cut/uncut status.
Title: Re: The Loreley's Grasp / Las garras de Lorelei ( Amando de Ossorio, 1974)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 23 Jul 2014 - 12:07
Cheers  ::)
Title: Re: The Loreley's Grasp / Las garras de Lorelei ( Amando de Ossorio, 1974)
Post by: bdc on 24 Jul 2014 - 10:23
I'm not saying all German blus are bad.  :D
Title: Re: The Loreley's Grasp / Las garras de Lorelei ( Amando de Ossorio, 1974)
Post by: the blob on 10 Aug 2015 - 17:53
There's a comparison between the BD and BCI DVD here:

http://www.caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleiche/multi_comparison.php?disc1=6256&disc2=6257&hd_multiID=2553#auswahl (http://www.caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleiche/multi_comparison.php?disc1=6256&disc2=6257&hd_multiID=2553#auswahl)

Looks to be more detail in the BD and HD to me but a bit of s hit source/encode. The combing in this one is horrible

http://www.caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleiche/multi_comparison.php?art=magnify&x=645&y=263&action=1&image=4&hd_multiID=2553&cap1=59102&cap2=59113&disc1=6256&disc2=6257&lossless=#vergleich (http://www.caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleiche/multi_comparison.php?art=magnify&x=645&y=263&action=1&image=4&hd_multiID=2553&cap1=59102&cap2=59113&disc1=6256&disc2=6257&lossless=#vergleich)

Looks like it might have been a smoothed 1080i source with some bad interlacing in parts so some of them look half decent.

As for the day for night...

http://www.caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleiche/multi_comparison.php?disc1=6256&disc2=6257&cap1=59106&cap2=59116&art=full&image=8&hd_multiID=2553&action=1&lossless=#vergleich (http://www.caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleiche/multi_comparison.php?disc1=6256&disc2=6257&cap1=59106&cap2=59116&art=full&image=8&hd_multiID=2553&action=1&lossless=#vergleich)
Title: Re: The Loreley's Grasp / Las garras de Lorelei ( Amando de Ossorio, 1974)
Post by: babybreese on 11 Aug 2015 - 12:06
Thanks for heads up on the caps.
Looks more to me like the SD source ( taken from a HD scan ) used for the DVD but at 1080i.
Title: Re: The Loreley's Grasp / Las garras de Lorelei ( Amando de Ossorio, 1974)
Post by: the blob on 11 Aug 2015 - 20:08
My gut feeling is that it was an interlaced HD broadcast master originally. You couldn't get anywhere near this sharpness from an up convert.

http://www.caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleiche/multi_comparison.php?art=part&x=794&y=339&action=1&image=5&hd_multiID=2553&cap1=59103&cap2=59114&disc1=6256&disc2=6257&lossless=#vergleich (http://www.caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleiche/multi_comparison.php?art=part&x=794&y=339&action=1&image=5&hd_multiID=2553&cap1=59103&cap2=59114&disc1=6256&disc2=6257&lossless=#vergleich)

All those caps look pretty grain free so I'm guessing it's been scrubbed away along with a load of detail, which would explain the soft smeary look.
Title: Re: The Loreley's Grasp / Las garras de Lorelei ( Amando de Ossorio, 1974)
Post by: babybreese on 01 Aug 2017 - 02:49
Looking at the new Blu from Scream and it looks pretty much exactly like the German Blu.
A shit master for sure.
Title: Re: The Loreley's Grasp / Las garras de Lorelei ( Amando de Ossorio, 1974)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 01 Aug 2017 - 22:18
Looking at the new Blu from Scream and it looks pretty much exactly like the German Blu.
A shit master for sure.
Doesn't the BCI DVD look better than the German Blu?
Title: Re: The Loreley's Grasp / Las garras de Lorelei ( Amando de Ossorio, 1974)
Post by: babybreese on 02 Aug 2017 - 01:19
Only in the sense that the BCI has proper day for night tints. 
The German & Scream do not.

I just took a good look,
the DVD might appear better looking on medium / small monitors,
but it's pretty close to a draw. 
There just is no more detail in there, its a crap scan and DNR'd hard.
The colors do look pretty good  :'(
Title: Re: The Loreley's Grasp / Las garras de Lorelei ( Amando de Ossorio, 1974)
Post by: the blob on 07 Aug 2017 - 11:17
It's at Caps-a-holic and the Scream at least doesn't have the horrible combing that the German has. It also has English subs so it looks to be the best now until a new scan is done, if that ever happens.