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Title: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: Paul on 08 Sep 2010 - 07:30
This four-part drama continues the story of Shane Meadows’s superb 2006 film. Almost all the original cast is back for mini-series which was co-written by Meadows and Jack Thorne (THE SCOUTING BOOK FOR BOYS). The first two episodes are directed by Tom Harper (THE SCOUTING BOOK FOR BOYS) and the final parts by Meadows himself.

First part was shown on Channel Four last night. Set three years after the events of the film (there’s a brilliant transitional scene which shifts from a recap of the films ending to the start of the series), and finds Shaun (Thomas Turgoose) finishing his exams and looking for work, and Woody (Joe Gilgun) and Lol (Vicky McClure) just about to get married. Without giving too much away, the first episode was brilliant, full of Meadow’s trademark wit and uncomfortable tension, and I’m sure the series will do justice to a great film. The second part airs on Channel Four next Tuesday at 10.00.
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: Mark GW on 08 Sep 2010 - 10:19
I enjoyed it but found it a bit uneven, not helped by the ridiculous number of ad breaks which really disrupted the flow.  Bloody Channel Four.  I really enjoyed the original film and hope that the series comes close to eclipsing it.

Good to hear 'Rainmaker' being played during the 50cc motorbike gang scene.
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: Paul on 08 Sep 2010 - 12:50
Ha! Jonny will be pleased - Ian Brown has a cameo in a later episode as a copper!



(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g117/bluecrayon77/tie/ibtie.jpg)

More info here (http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2010/sep/04/this-is-england-86-shane-meadows).

(Picture taken from the Shane Meadows forum)
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: demented_uk on 08 Sep 2010 - 14:05
I found it quite disappointing to be honest, I am hoping that it will pick up over the coming episodes.
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: Paul on 08 Sep 2010 - 14:26
I found it quite disappointing to be honest, I am hoping that it will pick up over the coming episodes.

What was it that you found disappointing, Oli?
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: demented_uk on 08 Sep 2010 - 16:02
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What was it that you found disappointing, Oli?

I thought the dialogue was stilted and the extended musical sequences grated a bit.  I watched THIS IS ENGLAND again on Saturday to prepare for the first episode but found it to be a completely different tone.  It might have something to do with it being a different director to Meadows.  It will be interesting to see how it develops.
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 08 Sep 2010 - 17:58
the first episode was brilliant
I personally thought it was just ok, nothing special.

That bully character was quite a bad actor I thought and at times reminded me a lot of Alan Partridge, the character in the headband I found annoying, the rest of the cast were ok though.
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: Stephen Grimes on 08 Sep 2010 - 19:23
the character in the headband I found annoying,
He reminded me of Rab C Nesbit's son Wee Burnie,only not so wee!

Enjoyed this first episode.Nice to see they used just about all of the original cast from the film as well,including that hot vixen Smell. :-*
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: Paul on 09 Sep 2010 - 07:25
the first episode was brilliant
I personally thought it was just ok, nothing special.

That bully character was quite a bad actor I thought and at times reminded me a lot of Alan Partridge, the character in the headband I found annoying, the rest of the cast were ok though.

Was he a bad actor? I think back to my days at school and remember laughing at how some of the "tough" kids carried on - a lot of them like terrible actors!
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: Jonny on 09 Sep 2010 - 08:20
It was alright. Though I've always had a problem with Eli Dingle's acting. He just doesn't seem very good to me.

Loved some of the girls 80's haircuts though. Apart from that girl who cops off with the ginger kid, she's a bit freaky looking.
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: Paul on 09 Sep 2010 - 08:28

Loved some of the girls 80's haircuts though. Apart from that girl who cops off with the ginger kid, she's a bit freaky looking.

Ha! That's the one Stephen likes.  :-\ I met her at a screening of the film, way back when, and she was very nice.

Vicky McClure (who plays the lead, Lol) is very pleasing on the eye, as is the girl who plays her sister  8)

Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: Jonny on 09 Sep 2010 - 09:20


Vicky McClure (who plays the lead, Lol) is very pleasing on the eye, as is the girl who plays her sister  8)



Haha! Yeah, those are the two that caught my eye. Reminded me a lot of some of the girls back when I was at school.
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 09 Sep 2010 - 09:46
I thought the one with the pink hair was quite nice.
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: Paul on 09 Sep 2010 - 10:39
I thought the one with the pink hair was quite nice.


Really?

(http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/5675/67059837.jpg)
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 09 Sep 2010 - 10:47
Was he a bad actor?
I'd say so.
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: Stephen Grimes on 09 Sep 2010 - 10:49
([url]http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/5675/67059837.jpg[/url])

Little Perry. :'(
'Why don't i get no visits,Matron?'
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: TheMissus on 11 Sep 2010 - 06:17
We watched it last night, I quite enjoyed it.
The scenes with the boys on bikes and in the girl's house
were funny as hell.
It's reminded me I should wear my DMs more too
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: Mark GW on 15 Sep 2010 - 13:14
A better episode last night.  The series is up to speed now.  Good to hear Buzzcocks' 'Fast Cars' during the party scene.
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: Paul on 15 Sep 2010 - 13:31
A better episode last night.  The series is up to speed now.  Good to hear Buzzcocks' 'Fast Cars' during the party scene.

Yeah, last night's show was good. Couple of things that stood out to me that I think we could have done without. Firstly, was the over-use of the gag centring on the kid belonging to Perry Benson. The first instance was great, but I think it was a little much to keep going back over it.

Secondly, the party scene - was there really any need to pander to Channel Four's desire to make another SKINS-like show?

Minor gripe though. It's a brilliant show. Accordign to Shane Meadows, the third and fourth episodes (which he directed) are a lot darker in tone. I have a feeling we'll be seeing Stephen Graham's Combo again.

Also, for those outside of the UK who are desperate to see this, the DVD is due out on 11th October. It can be had for less that 12 quid on Amazon.
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: Jonny on 15 Sep 2010 - 13:51
What stuck out like a sore thumb in last night's episode was the scene in the shop where they were talking about hiring out videos. For 50p. And saying "It's the future".

As Ian over at pre-cert pointed out...

It's supposed to be 1986 not 1980

Is there a reason for such slack research on the part of the writers?

Another OK episode, still not grabbing me to be honest. 1986 was the year I left school and discovered the wide world and it wasn't at all like the world in this programme.
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: Paul on 15 Sep 2010 - 13:57
In all fairness, I do think it was a deliberate “mistake” – i.e. it was implying that the guy who owned the shop knew fuck all, mate. Let’s be honest, I’m sure we’ve all come across people like that in our time, haven’t we? Trying to talk something up like they’re some kind of pioneer when everyone else has been up to the same thing for years!
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: Jonny on 15 Sep 2010 - 14:07
In all fairness, I do think it was a deliberate “mistake” – i.e. it was implying that the guy who owned the shop knew fuck all, mate. Let’s be honest, I’m sure we’ve all come across people like that in our time, haven’t we? Trying to talk something up like they’re some kind of pioneer when everyone else has been up to the same thing for years!

If that was the case then fair play, went right over my head though!  :-*
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: Paul on 15 Sep 2010 - 14:11
It would certainly be lost on younger people that have only known DVDs!

The video boom began in 1979/1980, right? So six or seven years is a huge discrepancy, especially for someone of Meadows's age (b. 1972).
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 15 Sep 2010 - 22:25
But to be fair Paul you are a Meadows publicity machine  ;D
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: TheMissus on 16 Sep 2010 - 04:44
I got the impression the shopkeeper was meant to behind the times a bit, it looked like a joke to me.

Anyway, who's bothered about historical accuracy? It had Kelly in a bikini for god sake!
 8)
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: Paul on 16 Sep 2010 - 08:01
she is lovely  8)

Meadows Publicity Machine? Get your own cusses, mate  :-\ That's one of mine and it's old  :P

Jokes aside, yes, I'm a massive fan of Meadows's work - to me, he's the only consistently interesting filmmaker making films in England at the moment. Yes, we have other great directors but most of them inevitably make the leap to Hollywood because it's easier to finance the types of films they want to make there. There's nothing wrong with that, by I do admire the way in which Meadows seems to know what he wants to do and he sticks to that, and in most cases (ONCE UPON A TIME IN THE MIDLANDS aside) it means he can do it without compromise.
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 16 Sep 2010 - 08:17

Meadows Publicity Machine? Get your own cusses, mate  :-\ That's one of mine and it's old  :P

I know but I'm using one of your own cusses against you :-\
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: Jonny on 21 Sep 2010 - 22:05
Grim. Made me want to smash my tv up.
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 21 Sep 2010 - 22:12
Grim. Made me want to smash my tv up.
Grim as in it was dark, or grim as in shit?
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: TheMissus on 22 Sep 2010 - 06:35
Not watched it yet - if grim as in dark, how bad was it Jonny? I'm crying at far too much TV
these days. I've cried watching bastard Torchwood about 4 times as it is  ???
If it's uber-grim I'll have to pick a day I'm in an especially good mood.
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: Jonny on 22 Sep 2010 - 07:33
Not watched it yet - if grim as in dark, how bad was it Jonny?

Creepy paedo Dad. All I need to say really.
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: Paul on 22 Sep 2010 - 07:39
It was fucking horrible, wasn't it. There was a lot less of the light relief in last night's episode too.


SPOILER:




I think the scene in which the scummy dad pays his daughter a visit was almost as disturbing as his scene later in the programme. Being that the Lol character is supposed to be Combo's (Stephen Graham) ex, I have a feeling that he's going to let loose a flurry of rage on that cunt in next week's espisode.
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: demented_uk on 22 Sep 2010 - 11:59
Very grim indeed.  Still not enjoying the series as much as I thought I would though.  Vicky McLure has been outstanding.
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: TheMissus on 22 Sep 2010 - 17:16
Not watched it yet - if grim as in dark, how bad was it Jonny?

Creepy paedo Dad. All I need to say really.

Guessed as much. Not sure that I'm in the mood for creepy paedo dad tonight.
(Not that I'm ever in the mood for creepy Paedo dad you understand)
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: Kevin Coed on 24 Sep 2010 - 19:30
There was a lot less of the light relief in last night's episode too.


I dunno.. the ruck in the middle brought back fun memories for me that I'd long forgotten.

Good times...

Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: Jonny on 24 Sep 2010 - 19:40
I dunno.. the ruck in the middle brought back fun memories for me that I'd long forgotten.

Good times...


So you had rubbish cack handed fights at your school too then? The fights at ours were 5% connecting punches with 95% flailing arms and missed kicks.
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: Kevin Coed on 24 Sep 2010 - 20:22

So you had rubbish cack handed fights at your school too then?

I was thinking more of the out of school stuff which was a bit more heavy handed. And often involved people that were old enough to know better.

But going back to school times... have I ever mentioned the time that I made Catherine Zeta Jones cry?
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 24 Sep 2010 - 20:24
have I ever mentioned the time that I made Catherine Zeta Jones cry?
Tell us more Rich, tell us more...
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: Jonny on 24 Sep 2010 - 20:27

have I ever mentioned the time that I made Catherine Zeta Jones cry?

*Pours himself a drink whilst waiting patiently*
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: Kevin Coed on 24 Sep 2010 - 21:02
It's not as exciting as it sounds... Although I once told a friend's girlfriend that it was because I was 'too big' and she responded with 'really??'

It was during a school exam and someone fucked me off. I hoofed a pencil case across the room at them, missed, and it hit her on the head. Collateral damage. The odds on her actually being in school at the time were infinitesimal; she was always in some west end show but I do have school group pictures that we're both in. I wonder how much I could get for them on EBay?
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: TheMissus on 25 Sep 2010 - 05:39
It was fucking horrible, wasn't it. There was a lot less of the light relief in last night's episode too.




I thought there was a lot personally - which made waiting for the end worse, because I knew it was coming.


SPOILER




And I never thought I'd actually be glad to see Combo, I was cheering at the TV  :-\
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: Paul on 25 Sep 2010 - 09:03
It's not as exciting as it sounds... Although I once told a friend's girlfriend that it was because I was 'too big' and she responded with 'really??'

It was during a school exam and someone fucked me off. I hoofed a pencil case across the room at them, missed, and it hit her on the head. Collateral damage. The odds on her actually being in school at the time were infinitesimal; she was always in some west end show but I do have school group pictures that we're both in. I wonder how much I could get for them on EBay?

You should stick to the first version of events, that made me roar!  :-\

So, she "was always in some west end show" - bet she was shagging old codgers for a part back then too.

Someone I used to work with years ago also worked in a Boots that was CZJ local when she was shacked up with everyone's favourite rapist, John Leslie. They dropped off a film for developing and the guys in the shop spotted a whole bunch of dirty stuff, reprinted it and then stuck it all over the walls of their staff room.  :-\

Sian - you're right there were some funny bits but I think I was still a little side-swiped by the nastiness at the end. The scene in which the dad pays Lol a visit and Milky was proven to be an ineffectual lump, was also quite hard to endure too.

Anyone spot Ian Brown as a copper during the fight scene?
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: Kevin Coed on 25 Sep 2010 - 09:08
It's not as exciting as it sounds... Although I once told a friend's girlfriend that it was because I was 'too big' and she responded with 'really??'

It was during a school exam and someone fucked me off. I hoofed a pencil case across the room at them, missed, and it hit her on the head. Collateral damage. The odds on her actually being in school at the time were infinitesimal; she was always in some west end show but I do have school group pictures that we're both in. I wonder how much I could get for them on EBay?

Have I rendered you speechless?
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: Paul on 25 Sep 2010 - 09:13
No, go back - this computer is old and shit and I managed to submit the post before I wrote the follow-up - go back and you'll see I've edited it now.
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: Paul on 29 Sep 2010 - 08:03
So the four part series drew to a close last night. Astounding television. Last night's episode was rough and extremely uncomfortable viewing at times but the humanity of some of the characters really shone through.
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: Jonny on 29 Sep 2010 - 08:23
...the humanity of some of the characters really shone through.

Must admit I had a lump in my throat when I started to realise what Combo was doing after he found Lol.

Really cracking stuff, I still have some issues with the series on the whole but it's still a million miles better than 99% of what's on telly these days.
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: Paul on 29 Sep 2010 - 08:59
...the humanity of some of the characters really shone through.

Must admit I had a lump in my throat when I started to realise what Combo was doing after he found Lol.

Really cracking stuff, I still have some issues with the series on the whole but it's still a million miles better than 99% of what's on telly these days.

I think most of the issues that people have had with the show stem from the over-reliance on comedy and unecessary "Skins"-style nudity that was a big part of the first two episodes. I suppose this was deemed as an essential component of getting a big audience. The latter two episodes were definitely a lot, lot better.

Stephen Graham was fucking terrific in last night's episode. Vicky McClure (Lol) and Johnnie Harris (Mick) are supreb too.
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: DjangoLi on 29 Sep 2010 - 10:29
Jay getting water thrown over him by Dario Argento, Kevin Coed hurling a pencil case at Catherine Zeta Jones' head... You guys are dangerous!  ::) Heaven help us if there's a LoveLockandLoad meet-up! It would just be one long brawl.

You guys!  ???


Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: demented_uk on 29 Sep 2010 - 11:24
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I think most of the issues that people have had with the show stem from the over-reliance on comedy and unecessary "Skins"-style nudity that was a big part of the first two episodes. I suppose this was deemed as an essential component of getting a big audience. The latter two episodes were definitely a lot, lot better.

Stephen Graham was fucking terrific in last night's episode. Vicky McClure (Lol) and Johnnie Harris (Mick) are supreb too.

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Must admit I had a lump in my throat when I started to realise what Combo was doing after he found Lol.

Really cracking stuff, I still have some issues with the series on the whole but it's still a million miles better than 99% of what's on telly these days.

Completely agree, the last two episodes were better and Graham was fantastic last night.  Not as good as I thought it would be but much better than the crap that is broadcast on UK TV.
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: death_proof_reg on 01 Oct 2010 - 00:42
See people keep saying "not as good as people I thought it was gunna be"

yeah, I felt that way about Avatar.

This is england 86 was only ever gonna be whatever happened on screen. The magority of it is not to pleeeease you. Its made to kick you in the nuts. We went from [spoiler]racism[/spoiler]in the original film to [spoiler]rape[/spoiler] which are obviously magor factors of life, still happens, my home town has a serial rapist right now everyone is walking every girl home (this was before tie.. worth mentioning).. humm anyway yeah something about I think some people were looking forward to it so much that they forget that This is england was never Kes, it was never just a [spoiler]kestrel[/spoiler] dying (most of us eat meat so dont start) and [spoiler]nobody died in jimmy grimble[/spoiler] either so fuck it eh? we got dramatic shit going on, loose relationships that made your heart jolt and i just cant help but feel some people are taking advantage of that. Lets not forget this is england was, essentially, a film about fucking racist amd war, it was nasty stuff, it was fucking sick. In my opinion and nothing but my own shane meadows etc raaaas only intention was to make you laugh/make you feel sick. They did that, quit moaaaaaaaaaning. Youre not moaning. Some people are though, some people think lol's dad is paddy considine though. I/m probs just angry at them.

 :P
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: Stephen Grimes on 01 Oct 2010 - 00:55
I think some people were looking forward to it so much that they forget that This is england was never Kes

Blindin! :-\

Of course i couldn't let a comment like that pass and not post this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIiQ-TXcuyQ
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 01 Oct 2010 - 01:03
Got forced to watch Kes at school, thought it was boring. I really should re evaluate it as an adult.
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: death_proof_reg on 01 Oct 2010 - 01:08
well i'm just drunk and have no opinion anymore. LAUGH OUT LOUD. can spell fine. worries me,.

well no i love shooting stars and i love that clip! and yeah kes is a really good film but when you try tell people that you go "well its about aboy a nd he finds a kestrel and like, waw wait its not really about that but well it is but i dont know."
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: Paul on 01 Oct 2010 - 08:49
I was going to quote Reg's first post and let it be an example why people shouldn't go on forums under the influence, but he has admitted as much anyway!  :-\

All jokes aside, I can see what he's saying, even if he was a rambling, pissed-up fucker when he wrote it. There are a lot of people shooting their mouths off about THIS IS ENGLAND '86 - concentrating on the fact that the first couple of episodes were really disappointing and such like. There's no denying the that first and second episodes pale by comparison to the third and fourth but they were obviously contrived to ease people into the series gently and to bring a larger (read: younger) audience.
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: Mark GW on 01 Oct 2010 - 10:22
I know I've harped on about this before but the incessant advert breaks do not help any drama shown on Channel 4.  It will be good to watch this again when it comes out on DVD.  Overall, it was pretty good and pretty grim.  For various reasons, the 80s were a very interesting yet very grim time.  If you want some nostalgia and a really grim experience then you should check-out/re-watch THREADS.  My elder sister was in tears after watching that at the time.
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: Paul on 01 Oct 2010 - 10:33
I've never seen threads - will definitely have to give that a go. I actually picked up a copy on DVD a few months ago.
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: Mark GW on 01 Oct 2010 - 10:55
I've never seen threads - will definitely have to give that a go. I actually picked up a copy on DVD a few months ago.

It's essential viewing.  However, prepare yourself for some uncomfortable viewing.  I originally saw it when the BBC broadcast it along with THE WAR GAME in 83/84.  A fun, happy double-bill of nuclear annihilation!  I was a student in Sheffield at the time and the locations and the featured pub, which I occasionally drank in, were very familiar to me, which made it even more relevant.  You definitely need to see it though.  Superb television.
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: Paul on 01 Oct 2010 - 11:10
Cheers, Mark - Will definitely try and put my hand on the copy I have (95% of my DVDs are packed in boxes in my new home 230+ miles away!). Might be a while before I do get to see it but I will definitely watch it.
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: TheMissus on 01 Oct 2010 - 11:40
There's no denying the that first and second episodes pale by comparison to the third and fourth but they were obviously contrived to ease people into the series gently and to bring a larger (read: younger) audience.

I don't think it was necessarily just for the younger audience, but also introducing the characters
for those unfamiliar with the film at all? I don't feel the first 2 stood out as any worse than the last 2 myself. Must be my youth   :-\

I found the scenes where Trev is waiting outside the flat and then with Lol really moving.
And I never thought a certain character would turn out to be my hero, when they
kept repeating 'Let me do something good' I was a snivelling mess. Had to watch a Panaroma
about Scientology so I could stop!
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: Paul on 01 Oct 2010 - 11:46
Had to watch a Panaroma
about Scientology so I could stop!

That in itself is quite sad! Haha.

I was quite close to tears when Combo and Shaun went to the flat to find out his mum had already died. I think that's the genius of the writing and Stephen Graham's acting: you were left hating Combo at the end of the film and within the space of five or six minutes of screentime in the series you actually felt immense sympathy for him.
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: Kevin Coed on 11 Dec 2011 - 15:41
New series on Tuesday, motherfuckers!
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 11 Dec 2011 - 16:03
New series on Tuesday, motherfuckers!
You've hurt my christian feelings with such vulgar language, I shall me reporting you to admin*  :-[





















*You Cunt  ;D
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: demented_uk on 19 Dec 2011 - 11:56
Did anyone else watch the 88 series?  Some of the best British television I have seen for a while; the acting was superb.
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: Kevin Coed on 19 Dec 2011 - 12:55
Haven't had a chance to watch it yet. Am hoping to do so this week.
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 19 Dec 2011 - 13:58
I've still only seen the film and one episode of the last lot!
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: Paul on 19 Dec 2011 - 14:04
Haven't had a chance to watch it yet. Am hoping to do so this week.

Same here.
Title: Re: This Is England '86 (Shane Meadows, Tom Harper, 2010)
Post by: demented_uk on 19 Dec 2011 - 22:55
'86 was disappointing but '88 is riveting. Much more like Meadows' usual quality.