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Title: Pete Walker Discussion
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 03 Aug 2007 - 13:20
it would be a very boring world if we all liked and disliked the same things.
Pete Walker films for instance, i've only seen "Frightmare" and one other one. as "Frightmare" is supposedly his masterpiece and i thought it was shit i have no intention of watching his other movies!
Title: Re: Pete Walker Discussion
Post by: Stephen Grimes on 03 Aug 2007 - 14:47
Pete Walker films for instance, i've only seen "Frightmare" and one other one. as "Frightmare" is supposedly his masterpiece and i thought it was shit i have no intention of watching his other movies!
I thought Frightmare was shite as well and can't understand why people call it his masterpiece,now House of Whipcord on the other hand is fantastic and deserves alot more praise.
Title: Re: Pete Walker Discussion
Post by: Kevin Coed on 03 Aug 2007 - 15:24
Whipcord is easily his best film, although I do like Frightmare too. Imagine what the Sex Pistols film would have been like that he was going to make with Michael Armstrong!
Title: Re: Pete Walker Discussion
Post by: Richard C on 03 Aug 2007 - 15:36
I liked House of Whipcord - so much so I bought the Lobby card  ::) I also enjoyed House Of Mortal Sin. Frightmare was OK but I preferred these two over it.

Title: Re: Pete Walker Discussion
Post by: Paul on 03 Aug 2007 - 15:39
I've been slowly catching up with Walker's films of late and have been impressed by several. Like Kev and Stephen, I would rate HOUSE OF WHIPCORD as best—it’s a brilliant film—very stark, very gritty and leaves a lot to the imagination. I also really liked THE HOUSE OF MORTAL SIN and FRIGHTMARE. The others that I have seen have been middling to slightly above average – THE COMEBACK, SCHITZO and HOME BEFORE MIDNIGHT. I’ve still got DIE SCREAMING MARIANNE, THE FLESH AND BLOOD SHOW and COOL IT CAROL to see.

Whatever you think of Walker’s films, you’ve got to hand it to him for making these films, as many of them really pushed the boundaries of what was permissible during the 70s.
Title: Re: Pete Walker Discussion
Post by: Phill on 09 Aug 2007 - 18:23
I enjoy them all to some degree, Frightmare and Whipcord are probably my favourites, Cool It Carol is not at all what you'd expect it to be given it stars Robin Askwith, it's an almost British Realist picture or as near as Walker ever got to making one. The Flesh And Blood Show is Ten Little Indians all but by name IMO Would love to see Man Of Violence and some of his other early rareities, I have all that is currently available on disc and a few on VHS. As Comp said got to admire the bloke. And if you haven't read Steve Chibnall's book on him you should!   ::)
Title: Re: Pete Walker Discussion
Post by: Paul on 09 Aug 2007 - 19:06
I've just finished reading the Chibnall book, mate - it's a great read. Puts the films into a historic context and is really quite honest too.
Title: Re: Pete Walker Discussion
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 09 Aug 2007 - 19:14
I've just finished reading the Chibnall book, mate - it's a great read. Puts the films into a historic context and is really quite honest too.
good for you  :-\
Title: Re: Pete Walker Discussion
Post by: Phill on 09 Aug 2007 - 19:43
I've just finished reading the Chibnall book, mate - it's a great read. Puts the films into a historic context and is really quite honest too.

Nice one Comp! It's a refreshing read, in no way is Chibnall sicophantic about his subject, just honest as you say. Forgot to mention SCHIZO which although very flawed has on stand out scene for me , the seance scene! I had to flick it back first time I watched it because I wasn't sure what I'd seen!
Title: Re: Pete Walker Discussion
Post by: Paul on 09 Aug 2007 - 21:54
I've just finished reading the Chibnall book, mate - it's a great read. Puts the films into a historic context and is really quite honest too.

Nice one Comp! It's a refreshing read, in no way is Chibnall sicophantic about his subject, just honest as you say. Forgot to mention SCHIZO which although very flawed has on stand out scene for me , the seance scene! I had to flick it back first time I watched it because I wasn't sure what I'd seen!

I need to see SCHIZO again - I've not seen it in a couple of years.
Title: Re: Pete Walker Discussion
Post by: Jonny on 09 Aug 2007 - 22:00
I need to see SCHIZO again - I've not seen it in a couple of years.

I've not seen 'Schizo' for a very long time but I remember liking it when everyone else around me was slagging it big time, same went for 'The Comeback' which I also really liked...
Title: Re: Pete Walker Discussion
Post by: Phill on 09 Aug 2007 - 22:04
I need to see SCHIZO again - I've not seen it in a couple of years.

I've not seen 'Schizo' for a very long time but I remember liking it when everyone else around me was slagging it big time, same went for 'The Comeback' which I also really liked...

I like The Comeback as well, hell I'll admit it I love Walkers flicks no matter how bad! The Comeback will hold a special place for two reasons COMPO as a Psycho and Pamela Stephensons boobys  :-\
Title: Re: Pete Walker Discussion
Post by: Jonny on 09 Aug 2007 - 22:09
I like The Comeback as well, hell I'll admit it I love Walkers flicks no matter how bad! The Comeback will hold a special place for two reasons COMPO as a Psycho and Pamela Stephensons boobys  :-\

I'd forgotten about Pamela's boobs... I'd like to see them again real soon!  :-X
Title: Re: Pete Walker Discussion
Post by: Phill on 09 Aug 2007 - 22:17
I like The Comeback as well, hell I'll admit it I love Walkers flicks no matter how bad! The Comeback will hold a special place for two reasons COMPO as a Psycho and Pamela Stephensons boobys  :-\

I'd forgotten about Pamela's boobs... I'd like to see them again real soon!  :-X

Surely you've got the ABUK coffin set Jonny? Just been thinking and the last time I watched Frightmare was nearly two years ago, I put it on for the Mrs the night before our daughter was born  :-\ Well she was overdue and I thought a bit of cannibalistic brit horror might induce the birth. I was wrong BAtman Begins done it  :-\
Title: Re: Pete Walker Discussion
Post by: Paul on 09 Aug 2007 - 22:18
I like The Comeback as well, hell I'll admit it I love Walkers flicks no matter how bad! The Comeback will hold a special place for two reasons COMPO as a Psycho and Pamela Stephensons boobys  :-\

I'd forgotten about Pamela's boobs... I'd like to see them again real soon!  :-X

Surely you've got the ABUK coffin set Jonny? Just been thinking and the last time I watched Frightmare was nearly two years ago, I put it on for the Mrs the night before our daughter was born  :-\ Well she was overdue and I thought a bit of cannibalistic brit horror might induce the birth. I was wrong BAtman Begins done it  :-\

No, he's not and I've been nagging him about it, too.  :-[
Title: Re: Pete Walker Discussion
Post by: Phill on 09 Aug 2007 - 22:27
Sort it out Jonny !  :-\
Title: Re: Pete Walker Discussion
Post by: Paul on 09 Aug 2007 - 22:28
Sort it out Jonny !  :-\

I'm sure our nagging will compell him to get hold of one soon, Phill.
Title: Re: Pete Walker Discussion
Post by: Jonny on 09 Aug 2007 - 22:31
No, he's not and I've been nagging him about it, too.  :-[

The thing is with Pete Walker... I have a mate who had pretty much every VHS release of his films, I had pretty much all the Hammer films available as well, and we used to watch them all the time. Drunk, stoned, every weekend it was either Pete Walker or Hammer. I burnt out.

Haven't watched a Hammer film since same goes for Pete's stuff. I'm just about getting to the stage where I think I can start watching these films again...
Title: Re: Pete Walker Discussion
Post by: Phill on 09 Aug 2007 - 22:32
Sort it out Jonny !  :-\

I'm sure our nagging will compell him to get hold of one soon, Phill.

Either that or Pamela Stephenson's boobs mate !  :-\
Title: Re: Pete Walker Discussion
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 10 Aug 2007 - 08:14
I like The Comeback as well, hell I'll admit it I love Walkers flicks no matter how bad! The Comeback will hold a special place for two reasons COMPO as a Psycho and Pamela Stephensons boobys  :-\

I'd forgotten about Pamela's boobs... I'd like to see them again real soon!  :-X
Billy Connolly is a lucky man, she looks great in Superman 3. :-\
Title: Re: Pete Walker Discussion
Post by: Jonny on 12 Aug 2007 - 13:58
Just finished watching 'Die Screaming Marianne'. The sole reason for watching it was due to it being the only film in the ABUK box set that I'd not seen. Though a bit of a snoozer (I did 'ff' a couple of times) I'm glad I made the effort to watch it. If it hadn't been for a tiny bit of blood and some dodgy incest implications this more than likely would've been a PG and possibly shown up on mid afternoon day time TV slots. Being the earliest of Walker's films in the set it's interesting to start with this one as the traits that make the later films so effective are shown here in their fledgling form, family members mixed up with greed and jealousy with the requisite mentalist (here it's a crack pot half sister who's got the hots for her elderly father) thrown in for good measure.
Title: Re: Pete Walker Discussion
Post by: Paul on 12 Aug 2007 - 14:23
I might watch this this afternoon, mate. I have a bit of a thing for Wusan George (or how she looked back then), so I'll give it a whirl.
Title: Re: Pete Walker Discussion
Post by: Jonny on 12 Aug 2007 - 14:25
I might watch this this afternoon, mate. I have a bit of a thing for Wusan George (or how she looked back then), so I'll give it a whirl.

Yeah, Wusan's really hot in this, if anything this is worth putting in the DVD player just to see her dancing during the opening credits!
Title: Re: Pete Walker Discussion
Post by: Kevin Coed on 12 Aug 2007 - 15:01
Well done Jonny.... Proper LOL at that one! ::)
Title: Re: Pete Walker Discussion
Post by: Jonny on 12 Aug 2007 - 15:05
Well done Jonny.... Proper LOL at that one! ::)

Got him before he had chance to edit!  ::)
Title: Re: Pete Walker Discussion
Post by: Paul on 12 Aug 2007 - 15:13
Well done Jonny.... Proper LOL at that one! ::)

Got him before he had chance to edit!  ::)

I'll get you next time, you smug fuck  ???
Title: Re: Pete Walker Discussion
Post by: Jonny on 12 Aug 2007 - 15:18
I'll get you next time, you smug fuck  ???

It'll be a long wait...  ;D
Title: Re: Pete Walker Discussion
Post by: Jonny on 12 Aug 2007 - 17:42
Watched the 2 documentaries on the 'House of Mortal Sin' disc. Good work Marc!  :D

Christ, I didn't know Susan Penhaligon was the same actress that's been in 'Emmerdale' recently!  ;D

I'd also forgotten about Sheila Keith being in an episode of 'Dr Terrible's House of Horrible', I have the full series of that show on DVD and I'll be digging it out as soon as I get home.
Title: Re: Pete Walker Discussion
Post by: Kevin Coed on 12 Aug 2007 - 17:51
Didn't think too much of Dr. Terrible when it was broadcast, in fact I skipped most of the episodes, but I picked up the DVD for cheap and now revisit it regularly.
Title: Re: Pete Walker Discussion
Post by: Jonny on 12 Aug 2007 - 17:54
Didn't think too much of Dr. Terrible when it was broadcast, in fact I skipped most of the episodes, but I picked up the DVD for cheap and now revisit it regularly.

It's a grower isn't it? The more I watch it the more I see the care that went into making it. It's much more than a piss take, the guys who made it obviously have a real affection for these movies. Haven't seen it for a good year or so and am ready for a re-visit.
Title: Re: Pete Walker Discussion
Post by: Kevin Coed on 12 Aug 2007 - 17:55
I'd certainly much rather see a second series of this than one of Saxondale....
Title: Re: Pete Walker Discussion
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 12 Aug 2007 - 22:50
Christ, I didn't know Susan Penhaligon was the same actress that's been in 'Emmerdale' recently!  ;D

I'd also forgotten about Sheila Keith being in an episode of 'Dr Terrible's House of Horrible', I have the full series of that show on DVD and I'll be digging it out as soon as I get home.
Not to concerned about that programme you northerners love "Emmerdale Farm" but what's this "Dr.Terrible" programme, what's it about Jonny ::)
Title: Re: Pete Walker Discussion
Post by: Paul on 12 Aug 2007 - 22:54
Okay, so I watched DIE SCREAMING MARIANNE this evening and wasn't impressed. I wasn't expecting much, as the reviews I've read are poor and Walker himself admits that it's not the film he set out to make...

I just thought it was turgid. The scenes in England seemed to work well, but whenever the action transfered over to Portugal, it became tedious. The plot holes were really grating as well - I'm will to suspend disbelief, but only so far. There were some pretty large liberties taken, if you ask me.

Title: Re: Pete Walker Discussion
Post by: Jonny on 12 Aug 2007 - 23:00

Not to concerned about that programme you northerners love "Emmerdale Farm" but what's this "Dr.Terrible" programme, what's it about Jonny ::)


It's not been called 'Emmerdale Farm' for years now Tanzi! Just plain 'Emmerdale' these days  :D

Here's some info on 'Dr Terribles House of Horrible'

LINK (http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/guide/articles/d/drterribleshouse_7771770.shtml)
Title: Re: Pete Walker Discussion
Post by: Jonny on 12 Aug 2007 - 23:03
Okay, so I watched DIE SCREAMING MARIANNE this evening and wasn't impressed. I wasn't expecting much, as the reviews I've read are poor and Walker himself admits that it's not the film he set out to make...

I just thought it was turgid. The scenes in England seemed to work well, but whenever the action transfered over to Portugal, it became tedious. The plot holes were really grating as well - I'm will to suspend disbelief, but only so far. There were some pretty large liberties taken, if you ask me.


I never said it was good mate! Just glad I'd watched it, you can't slag something until you seen it, eh?
Title: Re: Pete Walker Discussion
Post by: Paul on 12 Aug 2007 - 23:11
Okay, so I watched DIE SCREAMING MARIANNE this evening and wasn't impressed. I wasn't expecting much, as the reviews I've read are poor and Walker himself admits that it's not the film he set out to make...

I just thought it was turgid. The scenes in England seemed to work well, but whenever the action transfered over to Portugal, it became tedious. The plot holes were really grating as well - I'm will to suspend disbelief, but only so far. There were some pretty large liberties taken, if you ask me.


I never said it was good mate! Just glad I'd watched it, you can't slag something until you seen it, eh?

I never said you said if was good, fella "calm down dear, it's only a critique. I'm really a good dri..." - shit, I came over all Michael Winner then (there's an idea for another thread...).
Title: Re: Pete Walker Discussion
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 12 Aug 2007 - 23:14
It's not been called 'Emmerdale Farm' for years now Tanzi! Just plain 'Emmerdale' these days  :D
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I know, i call it that on purpose, The same way i call "Star Trek" "Star Trak", say it in front of some of the sad cunts who think it's great and it pisses them off and they correct you, proper funny :-\
Title: Re: Pete Walker Discussion
Post by: Jonny on 12 Aug 2007 - 23:16
shit, I came over all Michael Winner then (there's an idea for another thread...).

What? A thread about you coming all over Michael Winner?  ;D
Title: Re: Pete Walker Discussion
Post by: Paul on 12 Aug 2007 - 23:19
shit, I came over all Michael Winner then (there's an idea for another thread...).

What? A thread about you coming all over Michael Winner?  ;D

don't make me start moderating your posts  ::)

There's now a Winner thread, in full effect.
Title: Re: Pete Walker Discussion
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 12 Aug 2007 - 23:32

don't make me start moderating your posts  ::)

Watch out Jonny the censor is back, i'll have to talk to bbfc Dave and ask him if he can have a job (i believe he has his own scissors ready for snipping!) ;D
Title: Re: Pete Walker Discussion
Post by: jack on 26 Sep 2009 - 09:39
Pete Walkers films convey an inescapable aura of gloom and dread especially when you juxtapose the viewing of what imo are his two most well focused,acidic and most perceptive films, that being House of Mortal Sin and Frightmare.
Title: Re: Pete Walker Discussion
Post by: Kevin Coed on 01 Jul 2014 - 11:54
Best plot summary ever. (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/01/2e3e9yma.jpg)