Euro Cult Movie Forum => Exploitation, Sexploitation, War & Espionage, Dodgy Rip-Offs => Topic started by: Jonny on 06 Aug 2007 - 21:43
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Got the German X-Rated DVD this morning and thought I'd post some image comparisons of the three versions I have of this film... We can talk about the film later :D
First up is a screenshot from the Greek version on the Astro label (No h/c in this version)
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f22/lovelockandload/Greek.jpg)
Raro DVD (h/c inserts on this edition presented as extras, not included in the main feature)
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f22/lovelockandload/Raro.jpg)
X-Rated DVD (Fully uncut including h/c but no English options)
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f22/lovelockandload/XRated-1.jpg)
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The German version looks like a winner! I am now expecting my copy from Kult Video! English options would have made it perfect but I will be still happy to have it.
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The German version looks like a winner! I am now expecting my copy from Kult Video! English options would have made it perfect but I will be still happy to have it.
The German DVD does seem to have a slightly better image quality plus it's fully uncut and doesn't have the burnt in Greek subtitles, there's an uncut Greek VHS with the h/c footage intact I believe (I think Marc has it) but even that version will still have the burnt in Greek subs... Looks like the German X-Rated DVD is the best edition so far.
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Jonny, have you done a side-by-side comparison of the new German DVD to any other editions? Is it definitey uncut?
The longer Greek tape with hardcore runs for 115m 33s.
A fully uncut version should run for 123m 27s.
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I'll give it a check in a minute...
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The German X-Rated DVD runs for 122 mins 21 seconds
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OK, will get it checked out - seems it's still missing something. Another composite DVD edit sounds on the cards.
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Does anybody have any of the UK video releases? There some English dialogue mising from some versions which may be present in the old UK pre-cert.
Prostitute (http://www.pre-cert.co.uk/cgi-bin/cms/Film/38984) (KM)
The Prostitution Racket (http://www.pre-cert.co.uk/cgi-bin/cms/Film/72957) (Krypton)
Prostitute (http://www.pre-cert.co.uk/cgi-bin/cms/Film/48954) (Private)
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I wasn't even aware it had any releases in the UK! I'll ask around though.
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Are you still working on the composite,Marc?Give us a shout when it's ready,i'd love a copy :D
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I've only just started on it - I'm looking for other English versions to fill in a few audio holes.
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I've completed my fan edit and English dub, but I need to plug a few holes which are missing English dialogue. Can anybody help with copies of any other English video variants / versions?
Anything I can't find English the English dub track for will be in Italian with English subtitles.
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ps - also looking for a trailer for this.
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I see that Kult Video has two X-Rated versions listed. One running 122 min & this one (http://www.kultvideo.com/scheda.asp?item=18301&type=DVD) running 125 min. Is this just likely to be an error?
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Any other caps? From that title cap, the German version looks brighter but at the expense of detail.
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Here's a comparison I worked from. I'd love to see that new DVD release.
German DVD: 122m 20s at 25 fps.
1.85
Dubbed into German.
Italian credits.
Visually, this is the best-looking of the three transfers.
The DVD is cut in the following places:
1- 1m 12s. Close-up of the girl inside the van, then a shot of the old woman walking around the van to talk to the driver.
2- 36m 48s. Some dialogue in car missing. just before the girl in the back seat reveals her breasts. Note: this footage is also missing from the Greek tape - it can only be found in the Italian DVD, where it appears between 36m 42s and 36m 50s.
3- 57m 15s. Shot of girl wearing headphones cut at end of scene
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Italian DVD
Title: STORIE DI VITA E MALAVITA (RACKET DELLA PROSTITUZIONE MINORILE)
Running Time: 116m 33s (at 25 fps)
1.85:1
In Italian.
The Italian disc is cut in the following places:
1- 1m 13s. A single close-up of the blond girl.
2- 1m 27s. Shots of the girl's breasts and pubic hair.
3- 36m 50s. Shots of girl in car revealing breasts. These can be found between 36m 31s and 36m 48s in the Greek transfer.
4- 46m 44s. Hardcore sex at party. This section can be found between 44m 37s and 46m 17s in the Greek transfer.
5- 51m 58s. Nudity. This can be found between 50m 51s and 51m 6s in the Greek transfer.
6- 55m 16s. Hardcore sex. This can be found between 54m 24s and 55m 30s in the Greek transfer.
7- 69m 42s. Nudity. This can be found between 69m 28s and 69m 35s in the Greek transfer.
8- 75m 38s. Nudity. This can be found between 72m 32s and 72m 43s in the Greek transfer.
9- 76m 21s. Lesbian scene. This can be found between 73m 26s and 74m 58s in the Greek transfer.
10- 78m 52s. Girl using vibrator. This can be found between 77m 30s and 77m 45s in the Greek transfer.
11- 86m 59s. Sex in lift. This can be found between 85m 57s and 86m 22s in the Greek transfer.
12- 89m 9s. Pubic hair. This can be found between 88m 29s and 88m 41s in the Greek transfer.
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Greek tape (on the Astron Video label)
Title: THE TEENAGE PROSTITUTION RACKET
Running Time: 115m 36s (at 25 fps)
1.85:1
In English.
The transfer is much darker than the Italian one.
The Greek tape is cut in the following places:
1- 19m 43s. Dialogue at racetrack. This can be found between 19m 24s and 19m 57s on the Italian disc.
2- 36m 31s. Shot of people talking in car shortened by 8s. This can be found between 36m 42s and 36m 50s on the Italian disc. Note that this cut appears immediately before the shots of the girl revealing her breasts, which are unique to the Greek tape.
3- 41m 43s. Dialogue cut. This can be found between 41m 50s and 43m 51s on the Italian disc.
4- 48m 44s. Dialogue cut. This can be found between 49m 10s and 49m 53s on the Italian disc.
5- 55m 41s. End of sex scene cut. This can be found between 55m 27s and 55m 34s on the Italian disc.
6- 55m 59s. Part of shot missing as woman walks across room. This can be found between 55m 53s and 56m 10s on the Italian disc.
7- 57m 18s. Dialogue in restaurant and car cut. This can be found between 57m 26s and 58m 43s on the Italian disc.
8- 59m 13s. More restaurant dialogue cut. This can be found between 60m 39s and 62m 5s on the Italian disc.
9- 66m 28s. Dialogue cut. This can be found between 69m 18s and 69m 42s on the Italian disc. Note that this cut is immediately followed by a sequence involving nudity that is unique to the Greek version.
10- 91m 42s. Dialogue cut due to a break in the Greek transfer. This can be found between 92m 11s and 92m 37s on the Italian disc.
11- 99m 33s. Girls stripping. This can be found between 100m 22s and 100m 51s on the Italian disc.
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I've completed my fan edit and English dub
Severin needs to release that :-X
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I see that Kult Video has two X-Rated versions listed. One running 122 min & this one ([url]http://www.kultvideo.com/scheda.asp?item=18301&type=DVD[/url]) running 125 min. Is this just likely to be an error?
Does anyone know if this is indeed a longer version? Seems strange that there are 2 X-Rated versions on the site. I haven't seen the film before, how difficult would it be to follow without an English option?
Cheers. :)
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Does anyone know if this is indeed a longer version? Seems strange that there are 2 X-Rated versions on the site. I haven't seen the film before, how difficult would it be to follow without an English option?
Cheers. :)
No idea, I bought the previous X-Rated release and I'm a bit hesitant to stump up the cash for the other release without knowing for sure what the actual runing time is.
Might be worth asking Mario at Kult Video if he'll check the runing time for us.
There's quite a bit of important dialogue to follow in the film so watching it without being able to understand what's being said wouldn't be recommended imho.
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There's quite a bit of important dialogue to follow in the film so watching it without being able to understand what's being said wouldn't be recommended imho.
Thanks for that Jonny. I was going to give it a go (I've used Kult once before for a load of Polizieschi thanks to your recommendation over at Maniacs & they were brilliant), but think I'll hang in the hope of an English friendly release. Patience is a virtue. :-\
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I just puchased a set of lobby cards for what i thought was this film,the title on the lobby cards is 'prostitution racket',but since checking the bbfc it says the film was rejected.so.....did they make the lobby cards first or are these for a different film???
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Got any pics?
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Just the ebay pic,have not recieved them yet,the seller wasnt much help either,if they are not for this film then it dont matter as i only paid £2 for them anyway
(http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/5571/kgrhqqokjoe3uwecdntbob1.jpg)
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Just the ebay pic,have not recieved them yet,the seller wasnt much help either,if they are not for this film then it dont matter as i only paid £2 for them anyway
([url]http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/5571/kgrhqqokjoe3uwecdntbob1.jpg[/url])
Well it's definitely Lizzani's film,here's the scene with Lidia Di Corato which is featured on the lobbycard you uploaded.
(http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/2981/vlcsnap2011070423h38m36.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/121/vlcsnap2011070423h38m36.png/)
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Well thats what i thought but i got confused as after i won them i checked the bbfc and it said the work was rejected,so im assuming they must have made the advertising materials before the decision came back from the bbfc.Has anybody seen any other uk movie paper/cards for the film as im guessing these were a really lucky find.Hell i only got them for £2
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According to the BBFC it was rejected on 15/09/1976 (http://www.bbfc.co.uk/AFF060314/); however, there is an earlier submission on 04/08/1976 (http://www.bbfc.co.uk/AFF018533/) that was passed X with cuts. Incorrectly entered when they built up the database perhaps?
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Well thats what i thought but i got confused as after i won them i checked the bbfc and it said the work was rejected,so im assuming they must have made the advertising materials before the decision came back from the bbfc.Has anybody seen any other uk movie paper/cards for the film as im guessing these were a really lucky find.Hell i only got them for £2
http://www.bbfc.co.uk/AFF018533/ - BBFC 'PROSTITUTION RACKET'
It got passed in 1976 with cuts mate, Eagle Films was the distro and I reckon you can see the 'E' in Eagle Films just before the title on that lobby.
Maybe the BBFC have their dates wrong and Eagle first submitted an uncut version...
http://www.bbfc.co.uk/AFF060314/ - BBFC 'THE PROSTITUTION RACKET'
And when that got rejected they re-submitted it with cuts and took THE out of the title?
EDIT: Damn you to hell COED!!!! :-\
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I'm so happy right now, it's stupid. >:(
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cheers guys,i thought it would be strange for there to be advertising materials for a film that had not been released.still a cool buy though for what i paid.
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cheers guys,i thought it would be strange for there to be advertising materials for a film that had not been released.still a cool buy though for what i paid.
Deffo, great score. Look forward to seeing proper pics when they arrive!
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Deffo, great score. Look forward to seeing proper pics when they arrive!
Yep, a cracking find. Especially at that price. :P
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where would be the best place to put pics when they arrive,in the gallery or this thread,or is there a thread somewhere for poster purchases.Iv got my hands on quite a few cool quads and lobby sets lately but dont know wheres the best place to put them on the forum
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where would be the best place to put pics when they arrive,in the gallery or this thread,or is there a thread somewhere for poster purchases.Iv got my hands on quite a few cool quads and lobby sets lately but dont know wheres the best place to put them on the forum
Do both mate, gallery & thread! :P
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For anyone who's interested in seeing this: a while ago, I made a fan DVD in which I added English audio from a VHS release and also provided subtitles for all the bits that were cut from the English language release. It took me ages to do, and is still available on Cinematik and CG. I used the Raro Video release, so the hardcore inserts are included as extras, and are not in the main film. A weird film - how on Earth did they get Morricone involved with this?!
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For anyone who's interested in seeing this: a while ago, I made a fan DVD in which I added English audio from a VHS release and also provided subtitles for all the bits that were cut from the English language release. It took me ages to do, and is still available on Cinematik and CG. I used the Raro Video release, so the hardcore inserts are included as extras, and are not in the main film. A weird film - how on Earth did they get Morricone involved with this?!
Cool, Marc did a full length composite version using the slightly better quality German DVD as the source which has the h/c scenes intact. Using the three versions mentioned in this post (http://www.lovelockandload.net/forum/index.php?topic=458.msg41474#msg41474) he then added all the scenes that were missing from the German DVD and added subtitles for the parts with no English audio. Runs for 2hr 8m 2secs.
Marc's fan disc also has the short documentary from the Raro DVD subtitled into English plus some deleted scenes.
Which reminds me, have you still got my German DVD of this Marc? :-\
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wow,marcs dvd sounds awesome,did he make it available for trade or was it more just for his personal use?
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how on Earth did they get Morricone involved with this?!
It's very likely the Italian maestro never watched those hardcore scenes, which are usually shot apart from the very making of a movie, usually lensed in a different way and then inserted in a producer's cut for foreign markets only (especially France). I watched a great documentary of the 90s about Morricone some months ago, broadcasted by the old Tele+ Italian TV, and the maestro told that he uses to watch a seemingly final cut of the movie and he makes some notes on a book by his own shorthand method during the screening, then he comes back home and he starts to write the music on the staff without trying to play the music on a piano.
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Morricone probably knew Carlo Lizzani well, as he composed 2 of his films before this.
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Marc did a full length composite version using the slightly better quality German DVD as the source which has the h/c scenes intact.
I watched a copy of the composite this afternoon and was very impressed.Nice job,Marc. :P
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Morricone probably knew Carlo Lizzani well, as he composed 2 of his films before this.
We're not discussing about the acquaintance between Morricone and Lizzani here, which is quite obvious, but about the fact the Italian soundtrack maestro had watched or not the hardcore version of the movie.
If one can hear the soundtrack missing from that mentioned composite fan made version, maybe my above lines can make some sense.
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Complete uk lobby card set(again apologies for the lame pics)
(http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/2716/091ob.jpg)
(http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/1166/088fq.jpg)
(http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/2285/087bpkjq.jpg)
(http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/8632/086zx.jpg)
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raro USA >
https://www.rarovideousa.com/films/the-teenage-prostitution-racket (https://www.rarovideousa.com/films/the-teenage-prostitution-racket)
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raro USA >
https://www.rarovideousa.com/films/the-teenage-prostitution-racket (https://www.rarovideousa.com/films/the-teenage-prostitution-racket)
Good find! Didn't know about this, will pick this up when I have the funds.
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raro USA >
https://www.rarovideousa.com/films/the-teenage-prostitution-racket (https://www.rarovideousa.com/films/the-teenage-prostitution-racket)
Good find! Didn't know about this, will pick this up when I have the funds.
They have a 50% off sale at the mo with the code: Memorial
Anyone know if they are customs friendly? :'(
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raro USA >
https://www.rarovideousa.com/films/the-teenage-prostitution-racket (https://www.rarovideousa.com/films/the-teenage-prostitution-racket)
Good find! Didn't know about this, will pick this up when I have the funds.
They have a 50% off sale at the mo with the code: Memorial
Anyone know if they are customs friendly? :'(
... at half price, one disc would be under the limit anyway.
dont know beyond that.
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first of all, it's nice to be back here. used to hang out at this forum before the existence of facebook and I am happy to see the old posts still up. the greek VHS of this film is probably the most expensive I ever sold, still have a DVD-R of it. was almost shocked to find out there's a blu-ray of this one. anybody knows if the hardcore material is intact in this release?
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I'd be interested to know what version the blu is too before buying it! Anyone have it?
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One of my Raro blu's finally turned up (no idea why they didn't send both, anyhoo...), it is English language & runs 1 hr 55 mins 01 sec. There are 10 min 42 secs of time coded deleted scenes (inc hardcore stuff) as bonus material. Unfortunately my laptop drive won't recognise it so no screen shots. Sorry.