Euro Cult Movie Forum => British Films => Topic started by: Vito Cipriani on 27 Mar 2013 - 08:42

Title: Symptoms (Jose Ramon Larraz, 1974)
Post by: Vito Cipriani on 27 Mar 2013 - 08:42
There's a bit of a discussion taking place over at Rock!Shock!Pop! regarding Larraz's (excellent) SYMPTOMS, which has apparently been screened recently (on the 13th of March) via a 35mm print at the Offscreen Festival in Brussels! (See here: http://www.offscreen.be/offscreen2013/jose-ramon-larraz/symptoms (http://www.offscreen.be/offscreen2013/jose-ramon-larraz/symptoms) .) This is quite exciting, if true, as SYMPTOMS is on the BFI's list of 75 'Most Wanted' films (ie, films thought to be in some way 'lost' - in the case of SYMPTOMS no 35mm prints were believed to exist). The BFI have been contacted and, although a DVD or BD release may be a long way off, it'd be a dream come true if in 2015 or thereabouts there was a release of SYMPTOMS on the Flipside label or summat :D

I know it's a slim chance, but was anyone here in Brussels for the Offscreen Festival? They showed Larraz's SCREAM AND DIE too.
Title: Re: Symptoms (Jose Ramon Larraz, 1974)
Post by: Hellochas on 27 Mar 2013 - 08:53
That's great news! Hope it all comes good and ends up on their Flipside roster.
Title: Re: Symptoms (Jose Ramon Larraz, 1974)
Post by: Vito Cipriani on 27 Mar 2013 - 11:07
Definitely. I'm really excited about this. Just wish I could have been in Brussels to see it for myself.

Anne Billson, who was at the festival, has said on Twitter that it looked to be screened via a 'bad'/worn 35mm print under the film's alternate title THE BLOOD VIRGIN.
Title: Re: Symptoms (Jose Ramon Larraz, 1974)
Post by: ciavazzaro on 27 Mar 2013 - 14:01
It would be great,i just love this movie.
Pure Larraz (in a positive way off course),with a wonderful and creppy Angela Pleaseance,suspense,and MADNESS MADNESS and MADNESS !
This movie is truly an experience,he deserved to be shown to more people !
Title: Re: Symptoms (Jose Ramon Larraz, 1974)
Post by: MarcMorris on 28 Mar 2013 - 13:01
I still have a copy recorded in the 80s from London ITV.
Title: Re: Symptoms (Jose Ramon Larraz, 1974)
Post by: JoseADiego on 28 Apr 2013 - 08:26
I love this film, I have old copy tv spain

SÍNTOMAS / Symptoms (Jose Ramon Larraz) 1974 - Trailer subtitulado - (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YYor3w0veQ#)
Title: Re: Symptoms (Jose Ramon Larraz, 1974)
Post by: DjangoLi on 28 Apr 2013 - 09:02
This is freely available on CG - remastered and filtered by user embersreich  No hard-coded subs (like Jose's print above) and it won't cost you a tenner (if you ask Marc Morris above for a copy)

Best to make that clear before someone gets shafted sending either of them a private message.

Title: Re: Symptoms (Jose Ramon Larraz, 1974)
Post by: Luca Canali on 28 Apr 2013 - 10:33
This is freely available on CG - remastered and filtered by user embersreich  No hard-coded subs


Yes, this version is by far the best to date and I've been through about 4 different copies of the film. Not my favourite Larraz but definitely up there.
Title: Re: Symptoms (Jose Ramon Larraz, 1974)
Post by: MarcMorris on 29 Apr 2013 - 10:46
This is freely available on CG - remastered and filtered by user embersreich  No hard-coded subs (like Jose's print above) and it won't cost you a tenner (if you ask Marc Morris above for a copy)

Best to make that clear before someone gets shafted sending either of them a private message.

Thanks for that.  :)
Title: Re: Symptoms (Jose Ramon Larraz, 1974)
Post by: Jonny on 04 Feb 2016 - 11:38
BFI restoration is coming on Blu...

www.bfi.org.uk/news-opinion/news-bfi/announcements/bfi-dvd-blu-ray-releases-announced-april-june-2016
Title: Re: Symptoms (Jose Ramon Larraz, 1974)
Post by: Ben Cobb on 04 Feb 2016 - 17:21
Amazing news!
Title: Re: Symptoms (Jose Ramon Larraz, 1974)
Post by: Russell22 on 05 Feb 2016 - 11:55
Mondo Macabro also announced it for release in the U.S
Title: Re: Symptoms (Jose Ramon Larraz, 1974)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 05 Feb 2016 - 14:16
I was talking to someone from the BFI Friday night about this, great news.
Title: Re: Symptoms (Jose Ramon Larraz, 1974)
Post by: babybreese on 25 Mar 2016 - 21:23
Mondo's LE will have the uncut interview shot for the old Eurotika special as an extra. 
Most of it's 2 hrs has not been seen by the gen pop. 
Special will not be on the regular BD or the BFI release ( so I guess it's LE for me again, although this time it's worth the cash, unlike LIZARD ).

Meanwhile Pete Tombs is expected to shed some light on why this is listed at 1.33 on Amazon & the BFI site.  ???  We should know soon via company rep Jared over at Bluray.com forum..
Title: Re: Symptoms (Jose Ramon Larraz, 1974)
Post by: Jonny on 26 Mar 2016 - 15:59
I've plumped for the BFI release, it's only £12 which is a steal. Would be nice to have the bonus Larraz interview but I can live without it.
Title: Re: Symptoms (Jose Ramon Larraz, 1974)
Post by: babybreese on 26 Mar 2016 - 20:51
I am uneasy about Pete Tombs revealing that 1.33 is the correct theatrical ratio.\The old TV screening was open matte and looks OK zoomed in to me.  Of course I can zoom in....but this just seems odd.  I asked for any supportive info available, we'll see what is offered.
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Title: Re: Symptoms (Jose Ramon Larraz, 1974)
Post by: fenriz on 27 Mar 2016 - 09:46
I've plumped for the BFI release, it's only £12 which is a steal. Would be nice to have the bonus Larraz interview but I can live without it.

Congrats!

They know how to tease us with exclusive stuff !
Title: Re: Symptoms (Jose Ramon Larraz, 1974)
Post by: the blob on 29 Mar 2016 - 22:44
I am uneasy about Pete Tombs revealing that 1.33 is the correct theatrical ratio.\The old TV screening was open matte and looks OK zoomed in to me.  Of course I can zoom in....but this just seems odd.  I asked for any supportive info available, we'll see what is offered.
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Can't say the answer of the OCN being 1.33:1 is particularly compelling. Surely there has to be more to it than that. I understand wanting to trust the BFI but organisations like that have been wrong plenty of times before.
Title: Re: Symptoms (Jose Ramon Larraz, 1974)
Post by: babybreese on 30 Mar 2016 - 14:04
Latest reply
The camera negative was 1.33:1. Perhaps it was intended for matting, I don't know.

What I do know is that Pete and the people at the BFI have been doing this professionally for many, many years. Personally, I trust their decision to present the film "full frame", and know that it wasn't arrived at without good reason.


I have a bad feeling about this but I get the feeling asking for more info would lead to some testiness.
Title: Re: Symptoms (Jose Ramon Larraz, 1974)
Post by: Paul on 30 Mar 2016 - 21:07
I know the bloke who runs video publishing at BFI - he's one of the biggest advocates of film that I've met - loves EVERYTHING, is incredibly knowledgeable and is very thorough - it's in good hands.

Besides, whatever is issued is going to be leaps and bounds above the off-air recording that's doing the rounds, so there really is no need for any "bad feelings" in advance of the release.
Title: Re: Symptoms (Jose Ramon Larraz, 1974)
Post by: babybreese on 31 Mar 2016 - 16:47
It's nothing to do with bad feeling bad feelings, it's unease that 1.33 is not the intended aspect ratio.
Any film from an established international director in the mid 70's shot full screen is very unusual to say the least.
Title: Re: Symptoms (Jose Ramon Larraz, 1974)
Post by: Kevin Coed on 31 Mar 2016 - 19:09
Shot full screen would be perfectly normal. Projected full screen would, with some exceptions, be odd.

Title: Re: Symptoms (Jose Ramon Larraz, 1974)
Post by: babybreese on 31 Mar 2016 - 19:11
Thanks for articulating my fuzzy thought there. ;D

Check discs are back in Pete's hands, so this is going to be 1.33 on the BD. ( despite my deep reservations )
Title: Re: Symptoms (Jose Ramon Larraz, 1974)
Post by: Paul on 10 Apr 2016 - 08:13
It's nothing to do with bad feeling bad feelings, it's unease that 1.33 is not the intended aspect ratio.
Any film from an established international director in the mid 70's shot full screen is very unusual to say the least.

"I have a bad feeling about this but I get the feeling asking for more info would lead to some testiness"

It was you who said the above, hence my response to you!  :-*  :-\