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Title: How legit are the german hartboxes?
Post by: Assault Suit on 03 Jan 2014 - 22:15
I have read somewhere (probably on this board) that most of the german hartbox releases of italian genre films are bootlegs. Anybody know if this is true? Many obscure films from companies like X Rated or '84 feel rather shoddy, often with VHS sourced transfers etc, so I can certainly see that being the case. However companies like NEW and Eyecatcher have a few releases that feel more legit, for instance Rome Armed to the Teeth, Beatrice Cenci and The Bloodstained Butterfly. But maybe these are just rips from italian released DVDs with added english and german language options? Does anybody know for sure? And if they are indeed bootlegs, does Germany have the same copyright laws as the rest of Europe or is it okay to release all these unlicensed films? There seems to be so many german companies specialising in this kind of releases that it just feels odd that they don't get shut down by the rights holder's lawyers.
Title: Re: How legit are the german hartboxes?
Post by: Jonny on 03 Jan 2014 - 22:35
I'm inclined to think they aren't 100% legit
Title: Re: How legit are the german hartboxes?
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 03 Jan 2014 - 23:15
It's a case of some being legit and some not.
Title: Re: How legit are the german hartboxes?
Post by: Luca Canali on 04 Jan 2014 - 07:49
OFDB is best (for me) for checking whether a German release is a boot or not.
Title: Re: How legit are the german hartboxes?
Post by: Assault Suit on 04 Jan 2014 - 12:49
Luca: Can you see this on the site? My german is a bit rusty so I really don't know what to look for.
Title: Re: How legit are the german hartboxes?
Post by: Luca Canali on 05 Jan 2014 - 13:00
Luca: Can you see this on the site? My german is a bit rusty so I really don't know what to look for.


Type the name of the film you want to check in the search field and when it displays the results, if a DVD is a bootleg it will state it in brackets beside the title.


See The Burning as an example:


http://www.ofdb.de/film/928,Brennende-Rache (http://www.ofdb.de/film/928,Brennende-Rache)
Title: Re: How legit are the german hartboxes?
Post by: ecc on 05 Jan 2014 - 14:24
Apparently, the X-Rated hardboxes of EYEBALL and VEIL OF BLOOD are straight ports of the Laser Paradise editions, but I don't know if that means they are not legit or if the company couldn't be bothered to do a new encoding and authoring job.
Title: Re: How legit are the german hartboxes?
Post by: Assault Suit on 05 Jan 2014 - 18:10
Okay, thanks for the info Luca. If this site is indeed correct then all of my hartboxes seem to be licensed. Maybe the reason some of these hardboxes are of such a low quality A/V wise is because the DVD companies just use whatever old analogue transfers are supplied to them from the rights holders, without deeming it financially viable to make new ones (in those cases where good film elements even exist in the first place). The lack of relevant copyright info on most of these boxes is somewhat puzzling though.

Didn't the infamous Bill of Code Red claim that a german company had stolen his transfer for some film?
Title: Re: How legit are the german hartboxes?
Post by: strangedaysindeed on 05 Jan 2014 - 19:03
Wasn't Code Red annoyed about Nightmare in a Damaged Brain being released in Germany? Turns out that the German release didn't have English so may be legit after all.  I don't think CR is very clued up about the rights they have agreed.
Title: Re: How legit are the german hartboxes?
Post by: demented_uk on 05 Jan 2014 - 23:42
Code Red is annoyed about pretty much everything it would seem.
Title: Re: How legit are the german hartboxes?
Post by: Longsden on 06 Jan 2014 - 11:04
Used a friends artwork on the Let Sleeping Corpses Lie release without his permission. Seem like right cheeky cunts
Title: Re: How legit are the german hartboxes?
Post by: Kevin Coed on 06 Jan 2014 - 12:01
What cover was that?
Title: Re: How legit are the german hartboxes?
Post by: Longsden on 06 Jan 2014 - 12:30
https://twitter.com/Slippery_Jack/status/418340588979642368/photo/1
Title: Re: How legit are the german hartboxes?
Post by: Kevin Coed on 06 Jan 2014 - 12:56
Thanks
Title: Re: How legit are the german hartboxes?
Post by: Longsden on 06 Jan 2014 - 13:08
Never seem to get wind of these releases. Seem like a closed circle of collectors?
Title: Re: How legit are the german hartboxes?
Post by: DjangoLi on 06 Jan 2014 - 13:18
Never seem to get wind of these releases. Seem like a closed circle of collectors?

I always found it amusing that some of them had 5 different covers, each limited to some crazy low amount like 22 (and never, ever, a round number...) . In their defence though, they do look good with those weird boxes...I wonder if some hardcore horror fan with a DVD pressing plant accidentally stumbled across a failing plastics company and came up with this genius plan to flood Austria and Germany with their fancy discs.  ::)

If anyone has a complete collection, with all the variants - I'd give them a medal.  :P

Then I'd probably ask them if they've actually watched any of them?
Title: Re: How legit are the german hartboxes?
Post by: broonage on 06 Jan 2014 - 14:45
I hate the large hartboxes, they mess up my shelf-ordering. Also no offense to German speakers, but I also hate how they use the German title on the spines. I have enough of a hard time figuring out the original Italian titles as it is!! lol
Title: Re: How legit are the german hartboxes?
Post by: WayneSmith on 09 Jan 2014 - 19:48
I hate the large hartboxes, they mess up my shelf-ordering. Also no offense to German speakers, but I also hate how they use the German title on the spines. I have enough of a hard time figuring out the original Italian titles as it is!! lol
The german titles could be a bit more understandable, but of course often they are not literal translations of the english one.

About the space issue, I dunno. I really like them, and BD cases are smaller than DVDs too, so doesn´t that kind of mess up the shelf ordening?  :-X