Trading Zone => Wanted => Topic started by: DjangoLi on 18 Jan 2014 - 09:37

Title: Un Urlo dalle Tenebre/Cries and Shadows/Exorcist 3
Post by: DjangoLi on 18 Jan 2014 - 09:37
I'm looking to see what copies of this film people have to create a custom DVDR project with DarioArgento.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073847/reference (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073847/reference)

So far we have a (now English subbed) poor quality rip of the Italian VHS - but doing a search, there are quite a few releases of this film. Ideally we're looking for the best of what's available.

Any help would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Un Urlo dalle Tenebre/Cries and Shadows/Exorcist 3
Post by: Luca Canali on 18 Jan 2014 - 09:45
I have the widescreen Japan Sony Exciting tape but unfortunately I don't have the means to be able to record NTSC to DVDR.


I can however provide you with a running time and/or high res scan of the cover for the custom menu?
Title: Re: Un Urlo dalle Tenebre/Cries and Shadows/Exorcist 3
Post by: DjangoLi on 18 Jan 2014 - 11:11
Thanks for the offer Luca, unfortunately I'm in the same boat, I used to able to convert NTSC>PAL VHS but no longer have the player.

Doing some looking around, there's a (still sealed!) VHS on an Italian site, but it's 60 euros. There's also a Spanish release and a south American tape (I can't remember from where exactly) - Also, an American release as 'The Possessor' and the old UK release (as Exorcist 3)

The Italian audio track is fine, I think it's just the video side of things that could do with upgrading - Can anyone post some caps of the UK release? This would be ideal because it's a PAL master, and no on-screen subs.

Does anyone really know which one offers up the best print?
Title: Re: Un Urlo dalle Tenebre/Cries and Shadows/Exorcist 3
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 18 Jan 2014 - 12:09
and the old UK release (as Exorcist 3)
There's also a U.K. pre-cert under the title Naked Exorcism, not sure if it's the same print as the Exorcist III release or not though.

(http://i437.photobucket.com/albums/qq98/spara73/spara2/NakedExorcism.png)
Title: Re: Un Urlo dalle Tenebre/Cries and Shadows/Exorcist 3
Post by: fenriz on 18 Jan 2014 - 12:25
Only the Japanese tape is uncut, precert is cut as stated on the pre cert forum! Japanese tape has japan subs as usual so i think it can only be used to add the cut footage to a better video source! Btw good luck with this one guys! ;)
Title: Re: Un Urlo dalle Tenebre/Cries and Shadows/Exorcist 3
Post by: daraioargento on 18 Jan 2014 - 12:56
just found i had a french lbx version as well, unfortunely due to damage only just under an hour is usable

(http://i.imgur.com/DtZXNb6.png)

so not a good start, as already stated the italian print is missing loads, mostly orgy related scenes. Definetely looking at laying the italian track over another video source, the Italian avi we have is not an option.

luca a scan of the cover would be awesome - thanks
Title: Re: Un Urlo dalle Tenebre/Cries and Shadows/Exorcist 3
Post by: Scyther on 18 Jan 2014 - 22:40
I have the US Wizard Video VHS under the title "Possessor," but I'm assuming it's cut? Not sure. I only recently acquired it and watched it late one night.  ???
Title: Re: Un Urlo dalle Tenebre/Cries and Shadows/Exorcist 3
Post by: MarcMorris on 20 Jan 2014 - 13:05
I've got the UK pre-cert, run time is 84m 52s (PAL).
Title: Re: Un Urlo dalle Tenebre/Cries and Shadows/Exorcist 3
Post by: Hellochas on 20 Jan 2014 - 21:09
I have the Sony Exciting release.


How does this one compare?


http://www.pre-cert.co.uk/display.php?vId=UK10875 (http://www.pre-cert.co.uk/display.php?vId=UK10875)
Title: Re: Un Urlo dalle Tenebre/Cries and Shadows/Exorcist 3
Post by: daraioargento on 21 Jan 2014 - 08:27
so can anyone furnish me with dvdr copies of the french lbx print and the jap print for the inserts ?

Intention - Italian/english with English subtitles

Test composite using the french, uk and italian versions , new runtime is 1hr 25mins 22 seconds @ PAL [1hr 29mins @NTSC]
Title: Re: Un Urlo dalle Tenebre/Cries and Shadows/Exorcist 3
Post by: DjangoLi on 24 Jan 2014 - 22:19
I have the Sony Exciting release.


How does this one compare?


[url]http://www.pre-cert.co.uk/display.php?vId=UK10875[/url] ([url]http://www.pre-cert.co.uk/display.php?vId=UK10875[/url])


Hellochas, could you send me a DVDR of the Jap release which I can pass on to Dario?
Title: Re: Un Urlo dalle Tenebre/Cries and Shadows/Exorcist 3
Post by: Hellochas on 30 Jan 2014 - 05:18
Sorry for the tardiness chaps, I'm run off my feet at work at the moment and just keep forgetting to do things (like this for instance, ask Tanzi!) when I get home. Anyway, regardless of that, what you really want to read is that I posted the DVD-R to Jonny 5 minutes ago.


Which I did!  :) >:( :(
Title: Re: Un Urlo dalle Tenebre/Cries and Shadows/Exorcist 3
Post by: DjangoLi on 30 Jan 2014 - 10:00
Sorry for the tardiness chaps, I'm run off my feet at work at the moment and just keep forgetting to do things (like this for instance, ask Tanzi!) when I get home. Anyway, regardless of that, what you really want to read is that I posted the DVD-R to Jonny 5 minutes ago.


Which I did!  :) >:( :(

Cheers Hellochas, I know Dario has a copy of the French tape on the way so we should now be in possession of all the materials we need.

Massive thanks for this - expect the deluxe custom DVDR as soon as the materials are all in.

Title: Re: Un Urlo dalle Tenebre/Cries and Shadows/Exorcist 3
Post by: Jonny on 01 Feb 2014 - 11:46
Sony Exciting VHS...

(http://imageshack.com/a/img855/7793/ex7a.png)

(http://imageshack.com/a/img202/9431/c25h.png)

(http://imageshack.com/a/img841/3446/9hi8.png)

(http://imageshack.com/a/img823/8176/2nfy.png)

(http://imageshack.com/a/img547/9425/k9y2.png)

(http://imageshack.com/a/img706/6558/21tu.png)
Title: Re: Un Urlo dalle Tenebre/Cries and Shadows/Exorcist 3
Post by: DjangoLi on 01 Feb 2014 - 21:41
Nice one Jonny and Hellochas, someone also uploaded the US Wizard release on CG yesterday so that makes three DVDR sources for Dario to work from  ::)

I'll shoot you a pm in a second Jonny.

Title: Re: Un Urlo dalle Tenebre/Cries and Shadows/Exorcist 3
Post by: Luca Canali on 02 Feb 2014 - 11:27

luca a scan of the cover would be awesome - thanks


Sorry for the delay mate, here's the Japan VHS cover in 600dpi


https://mega.co.nz/#!9l1HiSSS!5YbwUH1-C9MeMknNCZyEsPaKt1Bq6NmRai2xAaVYaPA

Title: Re: Un Urlo dalle Tenebre/Cries and Shadows/Exorcist 3
Post by: Jonny on 02 Feb 2014 - 14:23
Nice one Jonny and Hellochas, someone also uploaded the US Wizard release on CG yesterday so that makes three DVDR sources for Dario to work from  ::)

I'll shoot you a pm in a second Jonny.

Nice one, I'll send the disc over to Rob this week.
Title: Re: Un Urlo dalle Tenebre/Cries and Shadows/Exorcist 3
Post by: DjangoLi on 02 Feb 2014 - 16:09
(http://thumbnails110.imagebam.com/30556/f5e84e305553851.jpg) (http://www.imagebam.com/image/f5e84e305553851)
Title: Re: Un Urlo dalle Tenebre/Cries and Shadows/Exorcist 3
Post by: Hellochas on 06 Feb 2014 - 04:30
Just compared the old UK HBL version with the Japanese SONY Exciting version.

Ostensibly these are the same except for in two sequences: The SE version has more "writhing" footage in the big orgy sequence in the middle of the film, whereas the HBL version features extended green vomiting in the exorcism.

The SE version is letterboxed, but has washed out colours and way too dark, with all the pixilization, floating white blobs and forced subtitles you'd expect from Japan. The HBL version is pan and scanned, has much better colours, but a shade too bright for my liking...

Edit : I can put up the exact times of where this footage occurs if that helps with the project.

There are two more UK releases which run around 5 mins shorter. Not sure if these are cut versions or alternative edits. I'll see if I can hold of one of them.
Title: Re: Un Urlo dalle Tenebre/Cries and Shadows/Exorcist 3
Post by: Luca Canali on 06 Feb 2014 - 17:38
Just compared the old UK HBL version with the Japanese SONY Exciting version.

The SE version is letterboxed, but has washed out colours and way too dark....


There's a day for night scene that's really dark where Peter/Piero follows a female figure through the winding alleys and streets. If you or anyone else gets time to confirm, I'd quite like to know if this scene is brighter in any other print. The contrast is a bit too dark in the Japanese print (which is otherwise perfectly fine for me)
Title: Re: Un Urlo dalle Tenebre/Cries and Shadows/Exorcist 3
Post by: Hellochas on 06 Feb 2014 - 21:02
It's much brighter in the HBL print. In fact this scene is supposed to be set in daytime. The SE version is way too dark; so dark in fact that it's hard to tell if succubus' hair is ginger:

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b381/hellochas/hellochas007/creis_zps93963b3f.jpg~original)
Title: Re: Un Urlo dalle Tenebre/Cries and Shadows/Exorcist 3
Post by: Luca Canali on 07 Feb 2014 - 17:40
It's much brighter in the HBL print. In fact this scene is supposed to be set in daytime. The SE version is way too dark; so dark in fact that it's hard to tell if succubus' hair is ginger:

([url]http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b381/hellochas/hellochas007/creis_zps93963b3f.jpg~original[/url])



Thanks Hellochas. She's a right dirty old slapper in the film...think I prefer her with red hair ..
Title: Re: Un Urlo dalle Tenebre/Cries and Shadows/Exorcist 3
Post by: daraioargento on 19 Feb 2014 - 18:54
update after my full house rewire, still unboxing... but online at least

a good mate sent me a dvdr of the  french tape, it's the canadian release in ntsc format so any composite with the jap tape is going to that much easier.  canadian version is french audio only so it will need redubbing. dvdr is much better than what i had before.

Full intention now is:

french video souce with added scenes from the jap vhs in ntsc format, french audio version has no hardcoded subtitles or optical censorship

looking at triple audio with the English subtitles that Djangli made.

Thanks luca for the cover mate :)

not sure if you've sent the dvdr yet jonny either that my thieving postman is back.

screenshots french [simular to the jap vhs with regard to the night/day scenes

(http://i.imgur.com/gJZoZfg.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/sDLL9w0.png)
Title: Re: Un Urlo dalle Tenebre/Cries and Shadows/Exorcist 3
Post by: Jonny on 19 Feb 2014 - 20:27
"Il tuo vizio รจ una stanza chiusa e solo io ne ho la chiave"
directed by Sergio Martino

[url]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt00[/url] 69421/

The title has little to do with the plot, in fact it is a re-telling of Edgar Allan Poe's short story "The Black Cat" with a Giallo touch (gore, lesbian sex, nudity,suspense, traveling).

Luigi Pistilli stars as an abusive and psychotic husband constantly tormenting his wife and having incestous thoughts of his dead mother. A lover of Pistilli's is brutally murdered and the authorities want to pin the homicide on him, things get interesting when his neice (played by Edwige Fenech) comes to visit and the bodies begin to pile up in Pistilli's own household!!! The totally innocent (as far as the murders go) Pistilli must now hide the bodies in a wall in his wine cellar.

Not at all impressive but entertaining Giallo flick.

Sergio Martino often complained that he stood in the shadow of Dario Argento when it came to Giallo, I can see why this is. Martino's Giallo's are not as fun or inventive as Argento's.


A fun film for the month of october, next I'll be watching Emilio Miraglia's "The red queen kills seven times" (La dama rossa uccide sette volte) and I'll report back on it. In the mean time discuss this one if you have seen it.


Mate, I've not managed to get it sent yet. Apologies! It might be quicker if I rip it and upload it for you  working all week means my only window for the post office is Saturday and I've been busy every weekend and it slipped my mind. I'll get it uploaded and send you the link asap.
Title: Re: Un Urlo dalle Tenebre/Cries and Shadows/Exorcist 3
Post by: quidtum on 19 Feb 2014 - 22:55
Will come also a very good (I hope) Italian print enough soon, dario  :-*
Title: Re: Un Urlo dalle Tenebre/Cries and Shadows/Exorcist 3
Post by: daraioargento on 20 Feb 2014 - 17:07
thanks jonny and quidtum,  cant wait to get started
Title: Re: Un Urlo dalle Tenebre/Cries and Shadows/Exorcist 3
Post by: Dr Walpurgis on 16 Aug 2015 - 19:16
Did anything ever come of this project?

In the absence of anything else, I picked up the current cheap US DVD under the title The Possessor, but it's little better than I remember the old UK Exorcist III VHS being.

I have a weird fetish for these catchpenny pasta possession pics like this one and L'Ossessa. I'd love to see a label like Shameless, 88 Films or Arrow take an interest in them.
Title: Re: Un Urlo dalle Tenebre/Cries and Shadows/Exorcist 3
Post by: ecc on 30 Apr 2017 - 10:34
Soundtrack from Digitmovies (http://www.digitsoundtracks.com/site/en/products/CDDM280/)
Title: Re: Un Urlo dalle Tenebre/Cries and Shadows/Exorcist 3
Post by: horrorC.K. on 11 Nov 2017 - 18:19
A CRY IN THE DARK on Dutch Sunrise Tapes is out there too.