Euro Cult Movie Forum => Horror => Topic started by: Jonny on 28 Nov 2014 - 14:54

Title: Zombie Holocaust / Dr. Butcher, M.D. (Marino Girolami, 1980)
Post by: Jonny on 28 Nov 2014 - 14:54
88 Films are running an Indiegogo campaign to raise funds to potentially get this film remastered in HD for a Blu-ray release from the original camera negatives.

I'm ready for the usual comments but if anyone fancies chipping in you can do so at the following link...

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/remaster-zombi-holocaust-from-the-camera-negative (https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/remaster-zombi-holocaust-from-the-camera-negative)

I've gone in for the Level 1 package as I think this at least deserves a shot...
Title: Re: Zombie Holocaust / Dr. Butcher, M.D. (Marino Girolami, 1980)
Post by: JAMIOUSE on 03 Dec 2014 - 20:13
Would it help the campaign if a 'splash' was put on the front page or something?
Title: Re: Zombie Holocaust / Dr. Butcher, M.D. (Marino Girolami, 1980)
Post by: the blob on 04 Dec 2014 - 12:29
I'm sure there are a few people who'd love this one:

Everything in perk nine but with the addition of an Associate Producer credit on EATEN ALIVE: THE RISE AND FALL OF THE ITALIAN CANNIBAL FILM (with your own imdb listing)

 :-\

I'm probably going to go for the cheapest towards the end of the campaign as it's pay now and I'd rather have a decent release. I'm a bit wary about crowd funding for this type of thing though. Small company, yes but should they be looking at other means and accepting the risk as in the end, it's a business for profit. I'm skint but I've got to shell out £800 to manufacture my next release. I'm only one person and wouldn't make anywhere near the return they potentially may.
Title: Re: Zombie Holocaust / Dr. Butcher, M.D. (Marino Girolami, 1980)
Post by: Kevin Coed on 04 Dec 2014 - 13:17
I'm sure there are a few people who'd love this one:

Everything in perk nine but with the addition of an Associate Producer credit on EATEN ALIVE: THE RISE AND FALL OF THE ITALIAN CANNIBAL FILM (with your own imdb listing)

 :-



That would be funny as fuck.
Title: Re: Zombie Holocaust / Dr. Butcher, M.D. (Marino Girolami, 1980)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 04 Dec 2014 - 13:47
I'm a bit wary about crowd funding for this type of thing though. Small company, yes but should they be looking at other means and accepting the risk as in the end, it's a business for profit.
Indeed, they've already got enough Arrow style followers who buy whatever they put out, indegogo, kickstarter etc should be used for new companies to break into the market, not because they don't want to take the risk, all business is a risk, try it or don't try it, but don't expect others to send cash by the bucketload, like you said, it's a company for profit, just taking advantage of their brainwashed cult (and I don't mean that as in "cult films") follower fans.
Title: Re: Zombie Holocaust / Dr. Butcher, M.D. (Marino Girolami, 1980)
Post by: DjangoLi on 04 Dec 2014 - 21:29
I hope it works out, Zombie Holocaust is great fun.  :P
Title: Re: Zombie Holocaust / Dr. Butcher, M.D. (Marino Girolami, 1980)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 04 Dec 2014 - 21:57
Before I proceed I'd like to say I support ANY project to get these films out there - including this one.... but....

Why do we never see a 'detailed' list of the costs/profit involved in these projects? And I do mean detailed, from the cost of licensing, to disc replication, sleeve/booklet printing, manual work involved. We're only talking about a small paragraph (list, even) and then donators know where their hard-earned money is actually going. Funny, but I don't think I've ever seen anything remotely like a breakdown of costs on any fundraiser I've stumbled on. You?

I think fundraisers in general should be completely transparent - and they should also stop when they reach their goal. I was looking at one yesterday (boozestones, iirc) and the dude wanted $1000 ... it's currently at $16,000+ and there's no indication of where that extra money is going to end up.

Likewise, the recent Argento fundraiser (Sandman) Buried deep in the text was the disclaimer  (which went roughly along the lines of..." "It doesn't matter if we reach our goal, we'll take whatever money is there at the end." Which.... I could be wrong here.... kind of implies they've already got the money but they wouldn't mind someone else (that's you) chucking some more their way all the same. (or did I misread that part?)

Fundraisers are a wonderful idea - but things need to be a lot more transparent before I take the plunge. Case in point, the recent (actually ongoing) LLL fundraiser - at every step of the way I made it very clear the cash went/is going to the lab - there's nothing in it for me - in fact I'm down a fair chunk of cash if we want to start doing the accounts... There was/is one person to pay - and that's where it's all going. Now why can't we see the same elsewhere?

Remember, none of these companies are registered charities - they're business ventures designed to make someone/some people some sort of profit. (Unless of course they're doing it out of the kindness of their heart?)
Well said.

I'm all up for fledgling companies who wouldn't have been able to get off the ground for ventures like this but established companies doing it takes the fucking piss in my book.

I've not much money myself and if I feel like it's worthwhile I'll do it (like your ones so far).
Title: Re: Zombie Holocaust / Dr. Butcher, M.D. (Marino Girolami, 1980)
Post by: DjangoLi on 04 Dec 2014 - 22:00
LOL!

Faster than a bullet Inspector  ::)

Thought I'd 'water down' my original post but no worries, it is what I'm thinking.

My breakdown of costs (I'm just guessing here...)

£ 2 - 3000 for the HD transfer from the negative

£1000 Mastering

£1500 discs/boxes/sleeves

....already puts it up to around £5500 - but, in this case, it seems a large chunk is going into the documentary as well.

All added up this one actually makes a lot of sense - the target seems justified to me.
Title: Re: Zombie Holocaust / Dr. Butcher, M.D. (Marino Girolami, 1980)
Post by: the blob on 04 Dec 2014 - 22:55

£1000 Mastering

£1500 discs/boxes/sleeves


I would actually expect and hope that these two weren't included. They would be paying that out whether they used a sub standard master or not. Bring those two into the equation and we may as well all start a company because there's no need to put up anything yourself other than a licence fee.
Title: Re: Zombie Holocaust / Dr. Butcher, M.D. (Marino Girolami, 1980)
Post by: DjangoLi on 04 Dec 2014 - 23:07
I guess the difference could be used on that small tiny detail like licensing  :P (I totally forgot about that...) Yeah, all told, even if the figures are generous it can't be far off the mark.

I suspect nobody at 84 films will be retiring to the Bahamas off the back of this release  ::)

...unless of course they sell each disc for £100! (it might get them a small shack, not sure about a deckchair, though)
Title: Re: Zombie Holocaust / Dr. Butcher, M.D. (Marino Girolami, 1980)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 05 Dec 2014 - 00:17
but, in this case, it seems a large chunk is going into the documentary as well.
Another Waddell documentary, if ever there was a case not to check some money in I can't think of a better one lol ;D
Title: Re: Zombie Holocaust / Dr. Butcher, M.D. (Marino Girolami, 1980)
Post by: Jonny on 09 Dec 2014 - 11:41
Just under £500 to go before reaching the target and 16 days to do it in. Should easily smash it.
Title: Re: Zombie Holocaust / Dr. Butcher, M.D. (Marino Girolami, 1980)
Post by: Farmer_J on 09 Dec 2014 - 14:33
Donated a couple days ago. Looks promising with only £377 to go.
Title: Re: Zombie Holocaust / Dr. Butcher, M.D. (Marino Girolami, 1980)
Post by: Jonny on 11 Dec 2014 - 15:19
Target achieved and surpassed...
Title: Re: Zombie Holocaust / Dr. Butcher, M.D. (Marino Girolami, 1980)
Post by: JAMIOUSE on 11 Dec 2014 - 20:45
For those who don't know 88 Films have also found a new inter positive for Burial Ground, the extra funds will be put into creating a new HD master. Theres also a new perk on the indiegogo page - 1.5 for £20 you get Burial Ground in an exclusive slipcase and you obviously get to help in the restoration.

Just think we could have two Zombie trash masterpieces on Blu in 2015!
Title: Re: Zombie Holocaust / Dr. Butcher, M.D. (Marino Girolami, 1980)
Post by: Russell22 on 12 Dec 2014 - 09:44
I'm not giving em my money till I know what the Transfer is like
Title: Re: Zombie Holocaust / Dr. Butcher, M.D. (Marino Girolami, 1980)
Post by: JAMIOUSE on 12 Dec 2014 - 10:03
That defeats the object Russell, the idea is to raise funds to make a brand new HD transfer without the campaign there wouldn't be a new transfer.
Title: Re: Zombie Holocaust / Dr. Butcher, M.D. (Marino Girolami, 1980)
Post by: Kevin Coed on 12 Dec 2014 - 10:33
I bet a pound to a pinch of shit they're going to do a new transfer anyway. The current one is somewhat problematic.

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Title: Re: Zombie Holocaust / Dr. Butcher, M.D. (Marino Girolami, 1980)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 12 Dec 2014 - 16:49
That defeats the object Russell
No it doesn't, he's said it after the target has been reached.
Title: Re: Zombie Holocaust / Dr. Butcher, M.D. (Marino Girolami, 1980)
Post by: DjangoLi on 13 Dec 2014 - 12:40
Caught this post over at the Latarnia forums:

"Now I noticed this on the kickstarter page ( & got confused as to what they are saying here )
IF WE CAN'T DELIVER OUR STATED GOAL OF REMASTERING ZOMBI HOLOCAUST FROM THE IN-CAM NEG AND HAVE TO USE THE EXISTING HD SOURCE THEN YOU WILL BE REFUNDED.
OUR FULL INTENTION, HOWEVER, IS TO GO AHEAD WITH THIS NEW SCAN. SO WE DO NOT EXPECT IT TO COME TO THIS!
This conflicts with setting up a no refund 'flexible' donation route unless what they mean is if they can't get the negative you will be refunded. Conversely if they get the negative but do not meet their goal, it's flexible & no refunds? "

http://thelatarniaforums.yuku.com/topic/12914/ZOMBI-HOLOCAUST-kickstarter-new-neg-transfer-BD#.VIw_X3vrPK8 (http://thelatarniaforums.yuku.com/topic/12914/ZOMBI-HOLOCAUST-kickstarter-new-neg-transfer-BD#.VIw_X3vrPK8)

I don't want to be negative here (no pun intended!) but surely they should have looked into the possibility of actually getting a new transfer done before attempting a fundraiser like this?

I mean, all they have to do is email/call the lab and say "Hey, can we do this?"

I hope it goes ahead - the target looks justified - but what happens if they say no? What happens if they do go ahead with a new scan and it sucks? Whatever lab they choose to use could have supplied them with a 10 second clip to give them an idea of what they're getting.

The problem right now is that this new transfer is going to have to look incredibly good or you're going to see the usual fan backlash over this release - which is something I don't think anyone wants to see.

Let's hope this pans out well, that's all I can say.
Title: Re: Zombie Holocaust / Dr. Butcher, M.D. (Marino Girolami, 1980)
Post by: the blob on 13 Dec 2014 - 12:58
I fairness to them, that's been there from the beginning and judging by what they've said I think they really weren't overly confident at getting near the target, and that statement was more based on having the funds than getting access.

So they're aiming at Burial Ground now. Fair enough but I hope they put the same effort into Bloodstained Shadow if it needs it rather than a bottom of the barrel fan fave. I'd be pissed off if we get a superb looking Burial Ground and and a shite Bloodstained Shadow.
Title: Re: Zombie Holocaust / Dr. Butcher, M.D. (Marino Girolami, 1980)
Post by: DjangoLi on 13 Dec 2014 - 17:49
I fairness to them, that's been there from the beginning and judging by what they've said I think they really weren't overly confident at getting near the target, and that statement was more based on having the funds than getting access.

So they're aiming at Burial Ground now. Fair enough but I hope they put the same effort into Bloodstained Shadow if it needs it rather than a bottom of the barrel fan fave. I'd be pissed off if we get a superb looking Burial Ground and and a shite Bloodstained Shadow.

I haven't looked at the page but I think they're still going ahead with Zombie Holocaust, right?
Title: Re: Zombie Holocaust / Dr. Butcher, M.D. (Marino Girolami, 1980)
Post by: the blob on 13 Dec 2014 - 19:00

I fairness to them, that's been there from the beginning and judging by what they've said I think they really weren't overly confident at getting near the target, and that statement was more based on having the funds than getting access.

So they're aiming at Burial Ground now. Fair enough but I hope they put the same effort into Bloodstained Shadow if it needs it rather than a bottom of the barrel fan fave. I'd be pissed off if we get a superb looking Burial Ground and and a shite Bloodstained Shadow.

I haven't looked at the page but I think they're still going ahead with Zombie Holocaust, right?

Yep but now they've reached the target and found a new source for Burial Ground they're putting any extra money towards that as well.
Title: Re: Zombie Holocaust / Dr. Butcher, M.D. (Marino Girolami, 1980)
Post by: broonage on 16 Dec 2014 - 11:05
I'm staying clear for now, terrible time to launch a campaign when pressies have to be bought!! If cash wasn't tight I would have been all over this (although kind of against these things in the first place without guarantees!!).

But still amazing response for the campaign and we should all be incredibly happy that these films (once notorious in the UK) are getting the worship and attention they deserve...fingers crossed for the getting the best possible image!
Title: Re: Zombie Holocaust / Dr. Butcher, M.D. (Marino Girolami, 1980)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 01 Jun 2016 - 17:10
Good things come to those who wait  ::)

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Disc One:

DOCTOR BUTCHER MD

Officially, for the first time ever on disc, DOCTOR BUTCHER MD will be released UNCUT. Transferred in 2k and restored from negative elements from the Aquarius Releasing vaults and from the original negative of ZOMBIE HOLOCAUST in Rome. DOCTOR BUTCHER MD is the official US release version, with extra footage and a unique soundtrack, which was a massive hit on 42nd Street and birthed a generation of gore hounds in the early VHS era.

Bonus Features:

Featurette: BUTCHERY & BALLYHOO: Interview with Aquarius Releasing’s Terry Levene. A brand new half-hour plus career interview with the mastermind behind DOCTOR BUTCHER MD, the notorious Aquarius Releasing and their network of east coast cinemas. The 86 year old legendary showman regales us with tales of the making and marketing of movies to satiate the rabid appetites of the gore, action and sleaze crowds of the 70s and 80s.

Featurette: DOWN ON THE DEUCE: Nostalgic Tour Of 42nd Street With Temple Of Shock’s Chris Pogialli and Filmmaker Roy Frumkes. Frumkes was the producer and star of the unfinished zombie short which features in DOCTOR BUTCHER MD. He and 42nd Street theater and cult movie historian Chris Poggialli took a recent stroll along what used to be the street which housed the world’s most disreputable cinemas, pointing out each location and its lurid details. Original footage and stills from that bygone era are contrasted to the Disneyfied corporate hub it has become.

Roy Frumkes’ Segment Of Unfinished Anthology Film ‘TALES THAT WILL TEAR YOUR HEART OUT’. Frumkes’ full cut of his episode of the doomed anthology film, accompanied by his audio commentary.

Featurette: THE BUTCHER MOBILE: Interview with Gore Gazette Editor & Butcher Mobile Barker Rick Sullivan. A rare on-camera interview with the reclusive Sullivan about the rise and fall of his infamous ‘zine and the outrageous story behind the New York street marketing of DOCTOR BUTCHER MD.

Featurette: CUTTING DOCTOR BUTCHER: Interview with Editor Jim Markovic. The former Aquarius Releasing employee (then soon-to-be filmmaker) reminisces about his days working for the one and only Terry Levene and his assembling of the DOCTOR BUTCHER MD cut.

Illustrated Essay: “Experiments With A Male Caucasian Brain (…and other memories of 42nd Street)” By Gary Hertz. The Doctor from the Butcher Mobile recalls his days on the Deuce.

Trailers: One Theatrical and two Video Release Trailers for DOCTOR BUTCHER MD.

Disc Two:

ZOMBIE HOLOCAUST

For the first time ever the UNCUT VERSION of ZOMBIE HOLOCAUST in HD. Previous releases of ZOMBIE HOLOCAUST have excised a 5 minute sequence from the middle of the movie and only included it as an inferior quality deleted scene. This sequence has now been restored into the movie, transferred from the original 16mm negative, as it was originally released. In addition, previous disc releases have used video generated titles which have now been restored from the original film source. Also a new color correction pass and further restoration have been undertaken, making this the definitive release to date of ZOMBIE HOLOCAUST.

Bonus Features:

Featurette: VOODOO MAN: Interview With Star Ian McCulloch. The ZOMBIE, CONTAMINATION, ZOMBIE HOLOCAUST actor discusses his career in an interview conducted by Shocktillyoudrop.com’s Editor-in-Chief Chris Alexander.

Featurette: BLOOD OF THE ZOMBIES: Interview With FX Master Rosario Prestopino. The FX wizard behind the carnage in DEMONS, CITY OF THE LIVING DEAD and BURIAL GROUND sadly passed away in 2008. Fortunately for fans, Freak-O-Rama Productions shot this previously unseen interview with the man about his work on ZOMBIE HOLOCAUST in 2007.

Featurette: FILMMAKER ENZO G. CASTELLARI REMEMBERS HIS FATHER DIRECTOR MARINO GIROLAMI: It’s not a well known fact that ZOMBIE HOLOCAUST helmer “Frank Martin”, aka veteran director Marino Girolami, is the father of 70s/80s action maestro Enzo G. Castellari of INGLORIOUS BASTARDS, HIGH CRIME, BRONX WARRIORS and KEOMA fame. Castellari recently took the time to reminisce about his father via skype and supplied rare stills from his personal archive with which to illustrate the chat.

Featurette: SHERRY HOLOCAUST: Interview With Actress Sherryl Buchanan. The famed Italian genre publication Nocturno Magazine shot a rare on-camera interview with Ms. Buchanan recalling ZOMBIE HOLOCAUST and her days in Italian exploitation movies.

Featurette: NEUROSURGERY ITALIAN STYLE: Interview with FX Artist Maurizio Trani.

Featurette: New York Filming Locations Then Vs. Now. A look at the Big Apple locales as they are today.

Audio Bonus: Ian McCulloch Sings “Down By The River”. Back in 1964 McCulloch cut a folk music single early in his career. It’s included here visually enhanced by stills from his personal archive.

Trailers: The International and German Trailers for ZOMBIE HOLOCAUST.
Title: Re: Zombie Holocaust / Dr. Butcher, M.D. (Marino Girolami, 1980)
Post by: babybreese on 01 Jun 2016 - 18:00
Looks very special and extra loaded.
Got an email from Severin that adds....

The first 5000 copies of this double disc release come with an official
DOCTOR BUTCHER Barf Bag!
Title: Re: Zombie Holocaust / Dr. Butcher, M.D. (Marino Girolami, 1980)
Post by: Jonny on 02 Jun 2016 - 07:04
Only 5,000 copies? Better get my order in before they all get snapped up!
Title: Re: Zombie Holocaust / Dr. Butcher, M.D. (Marino Girolami, 1980)
Post by: Farmer_J on 02 Jun 2016 - 08:37
Looks quality  ::).  I'm surprised they didn't track down O'Brien, seeing as he is "Doctor Butcher", for an interview. Mind you some websites say he died years ago, and someone on IMDB once said he's alive and living in France.  Still, I'll definitely be picking this up.
Title: Re: Zombie Holocaust / Dr. Butcher, M.D. (Marino Girolami, 1980)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 02 Jun 2016 - 10:42
Only 5,000 copies? Better get my order in before they all get snapped up!
Hahaha  :-\
Title: Re: Zombie Holocaust / Dr. Butcher, M.D. (Marino Girolami, 1980)
Post by: Russell22 on 02 Jun 2016 - 12:00
Is this the same 2k scan 88 did though? Have Severin just licensed it from 88?
Title: Re: Zombie Holocaust / Dr. Butcher, M.D. (Marino Girolami, 1980)
Post by: JAMIOUSE on 02 Jun 2016 - 13:02
No it's a completely new HD scan that Severin have had done themselves. There's no mention of any region coding on the promo materials, I know Severin discs are usually Region 0 but it would be nice to know.
Title: Re: Zombie Holocaust / Dr. Butcher, M.D. (Marino Girolami, 1980)
Post by: Commissario Walter Grandi on 03 Jun 2016 - 19:25
Apologies if this has been covered before but is the Shreik Show release cut?
Title: Re: Zombie Holocaust / Dr. Butcher, M.D. (Marino Girolami, 1980)
Post by: JAMIOUSE on 05 Jun 2016 - 21:46
No it was Shreik Shows editions of Burial Ground and Beyond the Darkness that were cut. Mostly around the reel changes I think.