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Title: Tales From The Crypt (Freddie Francis, 1972)
Post by: Paul on 05 Sep 2007 - 10:38
I'm a huge lover of Amicus' anthology films and this is one of the better entries in the series. I'd had a DVD--acquired from eBay—for sometime and was only able to watch up to the beginning of the third story before the disc froze. Infuriating to say the least, but a year down the line, I'm now the proud owner of the newly-released disc from 20th Century Fox on a double bill with its companion piece, VAULT OF HORROR.

As Amicus anthologies go, they can sometimes be a hit-and-miss affair, though hitting more often than they miss. TALES FROM THE CRYPT comprises five wonderful shorts, each a worth entry, rather than filler. The opening tale of Joan Collins being stalked by a maniacal Santa Claus is a great pull into a hugely entertaining film. The other stories included here are all good, with Peter Cushing's centre piece being my favourite due to his heart-felt (and heart-breaking performance).

The DVD has no extras (at least not on the TALES disc. The VAULT platter has yet to see the inside of my player) but is presented in anamorphic widescreen and in what appears to be the original ratio. With the release of this double bill and Warner's forthcoming FROM BEYOND THE GRAVE due at the end of the month, it's a great time for Amicus completists.
Title: Re: Tales From The Crypt (Freddie Francis, 1972)
Post by: MarcMorris on 05 Sep 2007 - 12:27
Sadly VAULT OF HORROR is the censored American PG rated version.
Title: Re: Tales From The Crypt (Freddie Francis, 1972)
Post by: Paul on 05 Sep 2007 - 12:54
Sadly VAULT OF HORROR is the censored American PG rated version.

Marc, which version did Vipco release here? I still have mine, if it's longer, I shall keep hold of it.
Title: Re: Tales From The Crypt (Freddie Francis, 1972)
Post by: MarcMorris on 05 Sep 2007 - 12:58
VIPCOs release was uncut, but a bootleg. Drop it over to me and I'll make an uncut composite disc.
Title: Re: Tales From The Crypt (Freddie Francis, 1972)
Post by: IL COMMISSARIO on 05 Sep 2007 - 18:47
What?! Are you kidding me?! How could they do that?! So this VAULT is the same one with the freeze frames? I thought this disc didn't street until the 11th? VAULT was one of my most anticipated releases because of its cuts.
Title: Re: Tales From The Crypt (Freddie Francis, 1972)
Post by: Paul on 05 Sep 2007 - 19:14
I thought this disc didn't street until the 11th?

My UK-based supplier gets R1 DVD's anything up to htree weeks before the street date.

I'm hoping Marc can shed some light on what's cut and whether or not the old Vipco release is intact.

Watch this space.
Title: Re: Tales From The Crypt (Freddie Francis, 1972)
Post by: IL COMMISSARIO on 05 Sep 2007 - 19:17
I'll still buy it for TALES alone, but I've been antsy for years to get ahold of a complete version of this movie. Another thing, TALES played on Cinemax a few years back with extra gore footage missing from all its previous US releases.
Title: Re: Tales From The Crypt (Freddie Francis, 1972)
Post by: Paul on 05 Sep 2007 - 19:18
I'll still buy it for TALES alone, but I've been antsy for years to get ahold of a complete version of this movie. Another thing, TALES played on Cinemax a few years back with extra gore footage missing from all its previous US releases.

Can you specify what extra footage was shown on Cinemax, and I'll check the DVD. Seemed a little dodgy for a PG, but then again...  :-\
Title: Re: Tales From The Crypt (Freddie Francis, 1972)
Post by: IL COMMISSARIO on 05 Sep 2007 - 19:23
There was more of the guy being hacked up in the coffin. A couple of quick shots of body parts and maybe even a brief bit of an intestine. In the "Poetic Justice" segment, there's a longer bit involving the bloody ending of the episode. This was quite a few years ago but this extra footage was written about on various sites.
Title: Re: Tales From The Crypt (Freddie Francis, 1972)
Post by: IL COMMISSARIO on 05 Sep 2007 - 19:27
This site confirms the intestine scene playing on cable...

http://www.cosmos.net.au/~hologram/chopping/titles_t.html

I'd have to find the Fangoria magazine the article was in and that's hopeless considering how many of those magazines I have.
Title: Re: Tales From The Crypt (Freddie Francis, 1972)
Post by: Paul on 05 Sep 2007 - 20:35
I'm happy to confirm that the intestine scene is present in the new DVD  ::)
Title: Re: Tales From The Crypt (Freddie Francis, 1972)
Post by: IL COMMISSARIO on 05 Sep 2007 - 20:41
Cool! Can you tell me if VAULT truly is censored? The Nostalgia Merchant tape I had froze during the first segment when the vamps were draining the guy of his blood. All you see is a still frame and nothing else. Also, the "Neat Job" episode was cut during the finale where you see body parts in jars.
Title: Re: Tales From The Crypt (Freddie Francis, 1972)
Post by: The Hunchback on 05 Sep 2007 - 20:43
I used to catch this on American television (cut) quite often as a kid.

My favorite was the re-telling of "the monkey's paw" and "the valentine's day"

Most segments were remade on the television series, of the same, that lasted from the late 80's to the mid 90's.

I think I remember THE VAULT OF HORROR, doesn't that have a segment that takes place in Cairo and center around a snake charmer?
Title: Re: Tales From The Crypt (Freddie Francis, 1972)
Post by: IL COMMISSARIO on 05 Sep 2007 - 20:47
Yes, but the filmed version is a bit different from the comic version. I have dozens of the EC reprints. They're probably the only comics I have besides my JADEMAN comics that I frequently revisit.
Title: Re: Tales From The Crypt (Freddie Francis, 1972)
Post by: The Hunchback on 05 Sep 2007 - 20:49
Yes, but the filmed version is a bit different from the comic version.

I was talking about the movie anyway.
Title: Re: Tales From The Crypt (Freddie Francis, 1972)
Post by: IL COMMISSARIO on 05 Sep 2007 - 20:56
I know. I was just adding to it. In the comic, after the two faux magicians kill the female snake charmer, they try the trick rope out for themselves. As the wife ascends the rope she disappears only for her body parts to rain down on her husband who is hanged by the supernatural rope. He is found dangling from the rope which is not tied to anything. The filmed version is only slightly different during the end.
Title: Re: Tales From The Crypt (Freddie Francis, 1972)
Post by: Paul on 05 Sep 2007 - 22:03
Cool! Can you tell me if VAULT truly is censored? The Nostalgia Merchant tape I had froze during the first segment when the vamps were draining the guy of his blood. All you see is a still frame and nothing else. Also, the "Neat Job" episode was cut during the finale where you see body parts in jars.

I'll give it a watch next week and post my findings.  :D
Title: Re: Tales From The Crypt (Freddie Francis, 1972)
Post by: IL COMMISSARIO on 05 Sep 2007 - 22:08
Thanks Paul. xploited is already selling it as well as a handful of other midnite movies. I put in an order from deepdiscountDVD for these but they won't come out until the 11th. Strangely, DD doesn't have FOOD OF THE GODS so I ordered that one from xlpoited along with a couple other titles.
Title: Re: Tales From The Crypt (Freddie Francis, 1972)
Post by: Paul on 05 Sep 2007 - 22:21
You're welcome, mate but it doesn't look good, I'm affraid. Just come across some info on the ABUK forums. Look here (http://www.anchorbay.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=4239&page=12) - there's quite a bit of info on there, but well worth a read. Only pages 12 and 13 are relevant.
Title: Re: Tales From The Crypt (Freddie Francis, 1972)
Post by: IL COMMISSARIO on 05 Sep 2007 - 22:32
DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-[

I, too was awaiting this release most of all. I do not think that this was intentional, though. MGM has more often than not released alternate versions of movies since they started the midnite movies line as well as other releases such as SWAMP THING which was pulled because it sported a PG rating on the box although the film itself was the international cut. Their COUNT YORGA contained more footage than any previous release as well. However, I don't know if AIP ever distributed TALES and VAULT in America or not. If not, than the print used was from somewhere else. Possibly, they didn't know what they had. That has happened on several occasions, most famously with Paramounts continued screw up on ONCE UPON A TIME IN THE WEST during the end credits sequence.
Title: Re: Tales From The Crypt (Freddie Francis, 1972)
Post by: Paul on 05 Sep 2007 - 23:03
This double bill is a Fox release, mate. Since Fox re-established distribution of MGM titles (after a period of 18 months when they were handled by Sony), the Midnite Movies range has been revived but curiously, this is a 20th Century Fox Midnite Movies release, so hopefully, there'll be some more unreleased TCF horror goodies on the way! Check out the cover art:

(http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/5574/zzzztalesln3.jpg)
Title: Re: Tales From The Crypt (Freddie Francis, 1972)
Post by: IL COMMISSARIO on 13 Sep 2007 - 09:10
Well it's confirmed for the North American release of the MGM/Fox Midnite Movies release that VAULT is the PG cut version albeit anamophic widescreen. Either they didn't care or didn't know what to look for or simply could not obtain proper elements. Oh, well. At least the longest cut ever of TALES is on here. Mine should be arriving any day now.

http://www.dvddrive-in.com/reviews/t-z/talesfromcryptvaulthorr7273.htm
Title: Re: Tales From The Crypt (Freddie Francis, 1972)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 13 Sep 2007 - 09:32

([url]http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/5574/zzzztalesln3.jpg[/url])


i swear that skull picture was on the front of some pan horror book i has as a kid.
Title: Re: Tales From The Crypt (Freddie Francis, 1972)
Post by: Jonny on 13 Sep 2007 - 09:39

i swear that skull picture was on the front of some pan horror book i has as a kid.


It's also on the cover of FAB Press' 'Ten Years of Terror' book... except the eyeball is in a different socket  :D

(http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/617EFQZ1G1L._AA240_.jpg)
Title: Re: Tales From The Crypt (Freddie Francis, 1972)
Post by: IL COMMISSARIO on 13 Sep 2007 - 09:41
It was also on the cover of the paperback release I believe as well as early press material for VAULT as TALES FROM THE CRYPT 2.
Title: Re: Tales From The Crypt (Freddie Francis, 1972)
Post by: IL COMMISSARIO on 18 Sep 2007 - 22:15
Just got the Fox release of TALES/VAULT today. Strangely, this one as well as GORILLA AT LARGE/MYSTERY ON MONSTER ISLAND is a 2 disc set while the MGM/Fox releases are flippers. They also fumbled the ball on the RETURN OF THE LIVING DEAD re-issue. Some nice features but still no original theatrical soundtrack.
Title: Re: Tales From The Crypt (Freddie Francis, 1972)
Post by: R-T-C Tim on 19 Sep 2007 - 06:27
It seems that Fox MM titles have 2 discs, and the MGM ones have a flipper.

As for 'Vault of Horror', a lot of people are moaning, but I think the disc is fine, much better to watch 99% of a film in a good looking widescreen, than watch the pan-and-scanned Vipco release, just for 10 seconds of extra footage.
Title: Re: Tales From The Crypt (Freddie Francis, 1972)
Post by: WilsonBros on 20 Sep 2007 - 14:22
Personally speaking, I'm seriously fucked off about the fact that The Vault of Horror is the butchererd PG rated version.

When it eventually gets a release over here, do you honestly think that Fox are going to go to all the expense of striking up a new, uncensored print?   Thought not...

Fuckers.  :-[

(BTW - sorry to come across as an inarticulate wanker, but this sort of thing really gets on my tits)

Kev W
Title: Re: Tales From The Crypt (Freddie Francis, 1972)
Post by: IL COMMISSARIO on 20 Sep 2007 - 18:25
Me too, but at least TALES is more complete than ever.
Title: Re: Tales From The Crypt (Freddie Francis, 1972)
Post by: Paul on 20 Sep 2007 - 22:11
It's just carelessness on their part. I've still got the vipco disc, so I'm not frothing too much about it.
Title: Re: Tales From The Crypt (Freddie Francis, 1972)
Post by: IL COMMISSARIO on 20 Sep 2007 - 22:12
It only amounts to around 10 seconds anyways, yes?
Title: Re: Tales From The Crypt (Freddie Francis, 1972)
Post by: grantwal on 26 Sep 2007 - 21:28
Its not only cut its got a scene thats masked! A complete fuck up.
Title: Re: Tales From The Crypt (Freddie Francis, 1972)
Post by: bigandya on 15 Jul 2008 - 20:54
TALES FROM THE CRYPT was shown uncut on BBC1 around Christmas 2006, the first time it had been screened uncut on television, with all the extra intestine footage intact. I had to pause my recording and check it against the old Fox double bill pre cert just to make sure I wasn't imagining things. Lovely to see it, totally unannounced and unexpected, and then of course the DVD followed several months later. ::)
Title: Re: Tales From The Crypt (Freddie Francis, 1972)
Post by: MarcMorris on 15 Jul 2008 - 21:33
I made my own uncut composite fan DVD of this one - and it comes with a colour trailer too ;)
Title: Re: Tales From The Crypt (Freddie Francis, 1972)
Post by: Sharkey on 17 Jul 2008 - 01:24
TALES FROM THE CRYPT was shown uncut on BBC1 around Christmas 2006, the first time it had been screened uncut on television, with all the extra intestine footage intact.

Sadly the BBC1 showed it in fullscreen though and it was CH4 that showed it in widescreen.
Title: Re: Tales From The Crypt (Freddie Francis, 1972)
Post by: 13-13 on 20 Jul 2008 - 20:14
TALES FROM THE CRYPT was shown uncut on BBC1 around Christmas 2006, the first time it had been screened uncut on television, with all the extra intestine footage intact. I had to pause my recording and check it against the old Fox double bill pre cert just to make sure I wasn't imagining things. Lovely to see it, totally unannounced and unexpected, and then of course the DVD followed several months later. ::)
new years day 2007 infact. and it turned up again on the bbc earlier this year.
so the video is cut then? bah bloody humbug. and hello anya! :p


and re the skull- it is indeed on the book cover

tales book scan (bit ropey)
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/8968/ebay002cj9.jpg

and one for vault of horror
http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/3038/vaultdj2.jpg


anyone know if any of the others in the amicus series were made into paperbacks other than these two?
Title: Re: Tales From The Crypt (Freddie Francis, 1972)
Post by: Sadako on 10 Aug 2008 - 09:22
DR TERROR'S HOUSE OF HORRORS was definitely a paperback as well as THE UNCANNY. THE MONSTER CLUB book was republished version of R Chetwynd Hayes original short stories.
Title: Re: Tales From The Crypt (Freddie Francis, 1972)
Post by: 13-13 on 13 Aug 2008 - 20:37
DR TERROR'S HOUSE OF HORRORS was definitely a paperback as well as THE UNCANNY. THE MONSTER CLUB book was republished version of R Chetwynd Hayes original short stories.

ah! i shall have to look out for thoes!

excellent.
Title: Re: Tales From The Crypt (Freddie Francis, 1972)
Post by: bigandya on 17 Aug 2008 - 19:49

so the video is cut then? bah bloody humbug. and hello anya! :p


Hi Amy

Yeah the old VHS was cut, but only marginally - nothing too drastic, I was watching that version for 30 years before I even knew it was cut  ;D
Title: Re: Tales From The Crypt (Freddie Francis, 1972)
Post by: juppers2 on 05 Apr 2013 - 11:19
I've just written a little something on this for MovieMail:
The first half-hour of Amicus’s Tales from the Crypt (1972) — based on stories derived from Bill Gaines’ legendary 1950s EC Comics series — is surely up there with the best of that classic, 1957-to-1974 cycle of colour British horror cinema.
An efficient and suitably ominous prologue is swiftly followed by two lively stories that illustrate just how much fun the ostensibly straight-laced and undemanding British horror film could be in the hands of a skilled journeyman director (in this case Freddie Francis) and solid, unpretentious performers.

Read more here: http://bit.ly/11vNEkc (http://bit.ly/11vNEkc)
Title: Re: Tales From The Crypt (Freddie Francis, 1972)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 29 Jul 2014 - 13:44
TALES FROM THE CRYPT / VAULT OF HORROR out in October.

I wonder if Vault will be uncut this time? Not holding my breathe.

(http://i437.photobucket.com/albums/qq98/spara73/91UJzIOzI4L_SL1500_.jpg)