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« Reply #105 on: 02 Feb 2014 - 13:24 »

Hmmm.... His prices are s bit steep. Thanks for that though.
Proper steep. I wonder why amazon.de doesn't have it?
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« Reply #106 on: 02 Feb 2014 - 13:26 »

German Index title, it's hardcore.
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« Reply #107 on: 02 Feb 2014 - 14:13 »

For Franco collectors, I'm not sure if everyone is aware, but there's a Spanish BD of Al Pereira Vs. The Alligator Ladies, with English subtitles.
http://www.amazon.es/gp/product/B00DCNMNAM
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Re: Jess 'Jesus' Franco
« Reply #109 on: 25 Aug 2014 - 15:32 »

Coming in November.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1907222316/ref=redir_mdp_mobile?keywords=stephen%20thrower&qid=1408904145&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1



Looking forward to this, I'm not a big fan of Jess Franco but I do like Stephen Thrower so I'm thinking his writing may help me appreciate the films more.
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« Reply #110 on: 25 Aug 2014 - 15:42 »

I wasn't too fussed on his Fulci book but Nightmare USA was an absolute delight to read. His giddy enthusiasm really came through in that one.
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« Reply #111 on: 25 Aug 2014 - 20:07 »

Understanding Jess Franco, lesson 1:

Jess Franco - good filmmaker up until the late 1960's, films are well produced, well acted, have decent budgets, industry is doing well.

His career after this period is made up of one utterly shit film after the next. The only thing funnier than laughing at how inept his films are is the plethora of pseudo-intellectual bullshit written about them by academics. I suspect it's mostly an excuse to watch some saggy tits and shaggy beavers in front of the wife with the excuse that it's "art"

To quote producer Harry Alan Towers "Jess Franco shouldn't be allowed to direct traffic."

Lesson 2, see lesson 1.

I'm sure this book will sell well - and, if it's a more down-to-earth appraisal of his films I'd be interested. If it's a Freudian analysis of what colour socks he was wearing on the second day of the Devil Hunter shoot and how it affects the neo-Marxist ideology imbued in the film, then I'll pass.  :P

 

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« Reply #112 on: 26 Aug 2014 - 07:57 »

WRONG!
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« Reply #113 on: 26 Aug 2014 - 10:38 »

Ill pick this one up for sure. I havent seen much of earlier work apart from Orloff but have a genuine appreciation for some of his 80s output. Dont understand why he gets such a bad rep really, theres far worse directors making bad films and wasting more money than Franco ever had at his disposal.
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« Reply #114 on: 26 Aug 2014 - 21:47 »

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« Reply #115 on: 26 Aug 2014 - 22:03 »

Ill pick this one up for sure. I havent seen much of earlier work apart from Orloff but have a genuine appreciation for some of his 80s output. Dont understand why he gets such a bad rep really, theres far worse directors making bad films and wasting more money than Franco ever had at his disposal.

Had a quick look at his filmography over on IMBD

It's a tough one, the only film of his from the 1980's that sticks out like a sore thumb is Faceless - that's not a bad film, great cast, well shot - but I can't say it was something that left any kind of impression on me. It's just another horror film... certainly not the best the 1980's had to offer by a wide margin.

What else is there? Looking at his 1980's films that I've seen...

I fell asleep through Fall of the Eagles (1989) not that long ago.

La Sombra del Judoka Contra el Doctor Wong (1985) is a bizarre anomaly, a Bruce Lee exploitation flick 10 years after the fad had worn off, here's a clip - complete with shaky zooms and some of the worst hand-held camera work this side of an alcoholics convention:

La sombra del judoka contra el doctor Wong - Clip

Then there's Devil Hunter:

Sexo Canibal (Devil Hunter) (性感食人族)) (Jess Franco, 1980)

Dude with ping-pong balls strapped to eyeballs = devil.

Cannibals (White Cannibal Queen)

Mondo Cannibale (White Cannibal Queen) (Jess Franco, Francia, España, 1979) - Official Trailer

Notable for Al Cliver's arm being strapped to his back to show that it's been dismembered - saw this one years ago, I remember absolutely nothing about it.

Then there's a stack of cheap porn made around these films and throughout the decade - most (sorry, all) of them on a budget of about £2.

Come on guys, tell me what I'm missing here? Apart from Faceless (a fluke by all accounts) where are the diamonds in the rough that I'm not seeing?

No, don't mention Bloody Moon - that's another one that got turned off about 30 minutes into viewing, mostly because it was boring as fuck. This user comment from IMDB sums up how I feel about it:

"This movie is basically the infamous Jess Franco having a go at the American-style slasher films that were big in the early 80's, and what's most remarkable about it is how unremarkable it is."
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« Reply #116 on: 26 Aug 2014 - 23:35 »

Understanding Jess Franco, lesson 1:
Jess Franco - good filmmaker up until the late 1960's, films are well produced, well acted, have decent budgets, industry is doing well.  His career after this period is made up of one utterly shit film after the next.

For me the late 60's is where Franco starts peaking.  The Towers produced films, then into the Soledad Miranda period, the horror / monster fling in 1972 onto the Lina Romay phase.  I love the next 3-4 years but by 1976 I start to lose interest am done around 1980 or so.  Starting with SUCCUBUS in 1967 he started moving away from the convention language of film, more and more depending on who was producing.  By the time he hooked up with Lina, this got looser & less conventional.  By the end of 1973 he's shot his first hardcore film & the next couple years are tremendously packed with greatness, but by 75/76 things ( for me ) start getting repetitive , less innovative & overly indulgent.  Plus Lina Romay starts beefing up, despite only being in her early 20's. ???  So after 1976 or so I'm pretty much with you on this.


Thrower is very engaging & interesting / entertaining on the Franco segments he's done for the Video Nasty releases.
I am very much looking forward to his book, wish it were a tiny bit less expensive.

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« Reply #117 on: 27 Aug 2014 - 00:32 »

I've liked most of the ones I've seen that were in the 60's and 70's, some of the 80's stuff is alright but post Faceless I find most of them quite hard to sit through.
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« Reply #118 on: 27 Aug 2014 - 23:23 »

Understanding Jess Franco, lesson 1:
Jess Franco - good filmmaker up until the late 1960's, films are well produced, well acted, have decent budgets, industry is doing well.  His career after this period is made up of one utterly shit film after the next.

You know, I'm with you - I'll bump up my break-off point to around the same time (around the mid-1970's)


For me the late 60's is where Franco starts peaking.  The Towers produced films, then into the Soledad Miranda period, the horror / monster fling in 1972 onto the Lina Romay phase.  I love the next 3-4 years but by 1976 I start to lose interest am done around 1980 or so.  Starting with SUCCUBUS in 1967 he started moving away from the convention language of film, more and more depending on who was producing.  By the time he hooked up with Lina, this got looser & less conventional.  By the end of 1973 he's shot his first hardcore film & the next couple years are tremendously packed with greatness, but by 75/76 things ( for me ) start getting repetitive , less innovative & overly indulgent.  Plus Lina Romay starts beefing up, despite only being in her early 20's. ???  So after 1976 or so I'm pretty much with you on this.


Thrower is very engaging & interesting / entertaining on the Franco segments he's done for the Video Nasty releases.
I am very much looking forward to his book, wish it were a tiny bit less expensive.


Which now makes Stephen Thrower's book suddenly very appealing to me. I've been a humble fan of his writing since Eyeball issue 2 way back when. He is a great writer, I just hope he doesn't go all academic on us and keeps it more like Nightmare USA and less like his Fulci tome.

As for the price, I assume it's because these books are of such marginal interest.

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Re: Jess 'Jesus' Franco
« Reply #119 on: 28 Aug 2014 - 07:36 »

Franco is a very sporadic director for me. Whilst I largely agree his best films were from the 60's and early 70's, I do have a soft spot for some of his later work. "Faceless" is probably the best of his 80's output, though i do love "Oasis of the zombies" too - even though i realise it's not a very well made film. I can't say I've seen much of his stuff post 80's tbh.
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