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Re: Raro (Italy & USA)
« Reply #330 on: 01 Apr 2015 - 18:43 »

Complained and they promised to send out another package on March 9th but still nothing... have sent numerous emails now and no reply. Terrible service.
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Re: Raro (Italy & USA)
« Reply #331 on: 01 Apr 2015 - 18:58 »

I realise people will have unique problems with any business but my only experience with Raro was extremely positive. I ordered Nightmare City from blowitouttahere on eBay and it came with no slip cover. Blowit wanted me to return it (not going to happen at my expense from the UK to the US!) so I took a punt and emailed Raro to see if they'd let me have one. I made a very nominal payment and I got one mailed to me. I think that's above and beyond to be fair to them.
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« Reply #332 on: 01 Apr 2015 - 20:32 »


Complained and they promised to send out another package on March 9th but still nothing... have sent numerous emails now and no reply. Terrible service.

In a similar boat. My order of KILKER COP was dispatched late February and still hasn't arrived. I introduced a screening of Cavallone's BLUE MOVIE in Italy last week. The organisers said that Raro were a nightmare to deal with, ending up having to screen the DVD. Beginning to be really unimpressed with the company's practices.
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Re: Raro (Italy & USA)
« Reply #333 on: 02 Apr 2015 - 20:27 »


Complained and they promised to send out another package on March 9th but still nothing... have sent numerous emails now and no reply. Terrible service.

In a similar boat. My order of KILKER COP was dispatched late February and still hasn't arrived. I introduced a screening of Cavallone's BLUE MOVIE in Italy last week. The organisers said that Raro were a nightmare to deal with, ending up having to screen the DVD. Beginning to be really unimpressed with the company's practices.

I think any company that puts these films out should be saluted but RARO (and others) have disappointed me advertising their films with "new and improved English subtitles" and then using dubtitles that don't match the Italian dialogue. I've said it before but their release of 'Il Poliziotto e Marcio' is a travesty. Likewise, their release of 'Roma Drogata' does, I believe, contain a bastardised version of my old fansubs. Likewise, the recent release of 'Provincia Violenta' (admittedly not a RARO disc) also contains dubtitles (or possibly translated from the German audio track)

I (and others) have spent many years working hard to give people the chance to watch Italian films in their original language with English subtitles - and then companies like RARO, that have a golden opportunity to give fans the perfect version of a film, try to palm off shoddy work on an unsuspecting public.

It's depressing that a company gives you the impression they care about the art, then they pull a cheap stunt like that.

The only company (I don't work for!) that genuinely cares (imho) is Camera Obscura - the subs I've seen have been excellent - I just wish other companies like RARO could follow their example. If they fixed their subs they'd be doing Italian genre cinema justice. As it stands I can't help but think that they care more about shifting units than taking their time over a release and doing things properly which is a crying shame...

People complain about the grey-market and torrents but right now they're the only places where there's a wealth of Italian genre films with English subs. If you want more 'legit' options then people need to complain and companies need to listen otherwise they'll just keep messing things up.

I would be more than happy to offer my services - either as a subtitler or even as proofreader for free if they'd like to get in contact with me.

(pre-Easter rant over!)



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Re: Raro (Italy & USA)
« Reply #334 on: 02 Apr 2015 - 21:43 »

Nothing wrong with a good rant  ;D. It just pisses me off, "Newly translated Subtitles" my arse, Raro do annoy me sometimes.
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« Reply #335 on: 02 Apr 2015 - 23:25 »

For my money, these labels would be lucky to have someone as thorough as you working for them, Django! Backed 100 percent.
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Re: Raro (Italy & USA)
« Reply #336 on: 03 Apr 2015 - 08:34 »

It could be a business Idea. DVD companies can hire translators for their subtitled projects.
People who actually understand the language, then they can say, "With sub translations by.....". It would show a lot more care on these films, and I know that a lot of people, would really appreciate it.
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Re: Raro (Italy & USA)
« Reply #337 on: 03 Apr 2015 - 08:45 »

from what i know of pro subtitling - which is always going to vary in quality and have flaws - the idea of english matching the original language is something of a red herring. subs are an adaptation of the sentiment, not of the literal dialogue, and seem to be a form of rewriting the film so it all makes sense. all kinds of factors i suspect - ability to read has a different speed limitation to ability to listen to a language if you already speak it and understand it. i'm no translator, but i do have one good friend who professionally subs japanese films, so i've gather a little sense of it from that perspective.

i'd imagine, outside of the field, subbers identities wouldn't register with viewers all too often, even if always named at the end of releases; i've noted lots of mentions that USA companies releasing anime have based their official releases on what they seem to assume are good fansubs done for torrents when a show first airs. there's always a sense, perhaps naive expectation from those of us who are customers more than business operators / self-employed, that if you're paying you'd expect to get perfection - but there's a compromise that's always being balanced out, and it's the ability to make a profit from the slice of time you can afford to allocate to any one job.

i remember watching a lot of the noshame USA releases and being surprised by how much dialogue was on screen - very hard to read, but always felt unusually close to the amount of stuff being spoken. at the other end of the scale, some foreign dramas on TV are subbed very lightly, with bold, simple lines for a much broader audience. most stuff i've seen on DVD has been a middle ground, i'd guess. raro, whose subs i've not experienced much of (because i don't buy into the picture quality when reviews come around, so i often back out of buying their stuff) seem all kinds of unpredictable.
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Re: Raro (Italy & USA)
« Reply #338 on: 07 Dec 2015 - 16:28 »

You love 'em, you hate 'em...but they have just announced a new title


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Re: Raro (Italy & USA)
« Reply #339 on: 07 Dec 2015 - 19:36 »

Good to see that Raro guys love B Steele. However, that's a very bad movie! Hope they release some other good titles from her.
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« Reply #340 on: 07 Dec 2015 - 19:58 »

You love 'em, you hate 'em...but they have just announced a new title

Someone's nicked the e and now they are partying! :P
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« Reply #341 on: 07 Dec 2015 - 21:34 »

Steele gets testy about the missing E during the commentary over the end credits of NIGHTMARE CASTLE, but it seems to happened quite a bit in her Italian films.
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