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Author Topic: Weapons Of Death / Napoli spara! (Mario Caiano, 1977)  (Read 23477 times)

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Re: Weapons Of Death / Napoli spara! (Mario Caiano, 1977)
« Reply #75 on: 27 Mar 2017 - 10:06 »

Yeah, but is it actually going to fucking happen?

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Re: Weapons Of Death / Napoli spara! (Mario Caiano, 1977)
« Reply #76 on: 27 Mar 2017 - 14:46 »

Yeah, but is it actually going to fucking happen?

it should do. they have the license to lots of italian crime films. personally, i find the price extortionate. the trend for labels trying to sell directly to increase their profit margins with editions slightly different to retail discs is sadly coinciding with a poor exchange rate for those of us importing from the UK. i don't agree with the arguments it's necessary, i currently see it as anti-competitive and centered around collector's, scalpers too. it seem to be about nerves, because although the physical market is shaky, there are companies managing to do various niche genres at prices that are lower, with quality more reliably there. the last dorado disc - the franco obscurities - wasn't received that well, so i'm hesitant to do anything other than wait on reviews and a retail edition that's widely-available. still accept the idea of passing things over if they turn out to be poor discs and atypically-high prices - reluctant, but voting with my money to show i won't put-up with bad presentations of films, however likely (or not) it is for them to appear again elsewhere at some point.
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Weapons Of Death / Napoli spara! (Mario Caiano, 1977)
« Reply #77 on: 28 Mar 2017 - 06:58 »

Yeah, but is it actually going to fucking happen?

it should do. they have the license to lots of italian crime films. personally, i find the price extortionate. the trend for labels trying to sell directly to increase their profit margins with editions slightly different to retail discs is sadly coinciding with a poor exchange rate for those of us importing from the UK. i don't agree with the arguments it's necessary, i currently see it as anti-competitive and centered around collector's, scalpers too. it seem to be about nerves, because although the physical market is shaky, there are companies managing to do various niche genres at prices that are lower, with quality more reliably there. the last dorado disc - the franco obscurities - wasn't received that well, so i'm hesitant to do anything other than wait on reviews and a retail edition that's widely-available. still accept the idea of passing things over if they turn out to be poor discs and atypically-high prices - reluctant, but voting with my money to show i won't put-up with bad presentations of films, however likely (or not) it is for them to appear again elsewhere at some point.

Just happy that someone is showing an interest in releasing Eurocrime on blu Ray as there are very few releases just now. Sure the price is a bit steep for the Dorado set. Hopefully the Arrow release of The Climber will sell well and lead to some further blu rays of films that haven't yet had a blu ray or DVD release.


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Re: Weapons Of Death / Napoli spara! (Mario Caiano, 1977)
« Reply #78 on: 28 Mar 2017 - 10:59 »


Just happy that someone is showing an interest in releasing Eurocrime on blu Ray as there are very few releases just now. Sure the price is a bit steep for the Dorado set. Hopefully the Arrow release of The Climber will sell well and lead to some further blu rays of films that haven't yet had a blu ray or DVD release.


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i would be happy too, but right now my mind is in a place where i've seen far too much pulling apart of presentations of films on BD to be happy with just any presentation. even at a low price. it has to be good, because i fear there's something of a silent crowd out there that's not tied to any interest in labels, styles of cases, or other so-called special editions or spine numbers that are walking away from physical media, people who use discs to watch the films and still remember the search for films in complete and decent forms - leaving it essentially reliant upon what determines itself to be a hardcore crowd (usually willing to overpay and lower expectations of the actual content) and they won't be removed from their position in a manner which is remotely logical or film-centric, and it's done a lot of distortion, if not a lot of damage too.

i can't see 'the climber' doing much for arrow. looks like a second tier, fanbase-only entry for the type of film. not a major hitter in name or reputation, but certainly known of in certain circles.
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Re: Weapons Of Death / Napoli spara! (Mario Caiano, 1977)
« Reply #79 on: 28 Mar 2017 - 12:09 »

I'll not be buying the Dorado blu, too expensive and it's not even a real remaster as far as I know? Just a HD scan of a cinema print, which isn't that much of a step up from the DVD we already have. I've ordered The Climber blu though.
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Re: Weapons Of Death / Napoli spara! (Mario Caiano, 1977)
« Reply #80 on: 02 May 2017 - 11:52 »

I'll not be buying the Dorado blu, too expensive and it's not even a real remaster as far as I know? Just a HD scan of a cinema print, which isn't that much of a step up from the DVD we already have. I've ordered The Climber blu though.

Yeah, I've heard people talking about how it's a 4K remaster, which technically it is, but only from a 35mm print, not the original neg, so the results will be debatable to say the least. I've ordered it, but im not confident it will be up to that much given how the Franco set apparently looked (I've not personally seen it) and "The Night of the Scorpion" blu which looks pretty mediocre from all accounts.
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Re: Weapons Of Death / Napoli spara! (Mario Caiano, 1977)
« Reply #81 on: 03 May 2017 - 09:28 »

I'll not be buying the Dorado blu, too expensive and it's not even a real remaster as far as I know? Just a HD scan of a cinema print, which isn't that much of a step up from the DVD we already have. I've ordered The Climber blu though.

i've tried questioning a couple of companies trying the direct sales route on BD's they're producing, and am not having a lot of luck getting a matter-of-fact response that's detailed and satisfactory with what are being touted (sometimes packaged as) special editions with lavish packaging or simply numbered sleeves and coloured cases. seems to me audio and picture quality are very much lost issues, all too often.

it instinctively makes me unhappy, given that it's apparently anti-competitive and offers cover for poorer work that won't be subjecting itself to such a large audience off the bat. unfortunately, i can see enough people willing to accept sub-par discs at high prices (or little extra beyond a later standard edition) if they're sold initially in expensive limited editions - many presentations look poor in retrospect, but accepting or not arguing for better prior to release of a disc that can still be worked on and is asking a price that would be more than enough for other companies to get surprising spot-on with their restorations.

not following a widely-held model that allows buyers to vote with their wallet and spread their budget amongst various possible releases will surely narrow the range and distort the appreciation or viability of many projects for the sake of foregoing the concern or nervousness of a few who don't mind risking pulling up the ladder behind themselves.

it feeds into attitudes far more negatively than pointing out great examples of very obscure films with superb discs (often made by non-USA companies) that were done with little fanfare and no great issue made of the price or limitation in it's outlets (except in overall numbers maybe) often go relatively under-the-radar with the bigger USA audience for producing, selling and consuming discs.

dorado, for those of us who weren't their output until now, have apparently been around for decades. so far, their discs aren't impressing me. their knowledge of what's achieved and aimed for with very similar films (with arguably very much the same fanbase) being released elsewhere seems patchy at best. the reactions to the BD releases they've so far done make me wish that the films they've managed to license could have been picked up one or more other labels that i think would approach things differently.
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Re: Weapons Of Death / Napoli spara! (Mario Caiano, 1977)
« Reply #82 on: 04 May 2017 - 10:17 »

I'll not be buying the Dorado blu, too expensive and it's not even a real remaster as far as I know? Just a HD scan of a cinema print, which isn't that much of a step up from the DVD we already have. I've ordered The Climber blu though.


Yeah, I've heard people talking about how it's a 4K remaster, which technically it is, but only from a 35mm print, not the original neg, so the results will be debatable to say the least. I've ordered it, but im not confident it will be up to that much given how the Franco set apparently looked (I've not personally seen it) and "The Night of the Scorpion" blu which looks pretty mediocre from all accounts.

Night of the Scorpion is up for about £25 on Strange Vice.

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