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Author Topic: Savage Three / Fango bollente (Vittorio Salerno, 1975)  (Read 16351 times)

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Re: Savage Three / Fango bollente (Vittorio Salerno, 1975)
« Reply #15 on: 31 Mar 2009 - 23:12 »

Hi Dr!

My wife painstakingly created a composite (I say painstakingly because the Spanish print was 16:9 enhanced while the Italian broadcast wasn't... It took a while but she perservered after I gave up after 5 minutes...I guess women really are the brighter species - or I'm just thick! - probably the latter)

I should add that it was you who sent me the uncut version so it wouldn't have been possible without you! Cheers mate, thoroughly appreciated  ;)

What's cut?

Hmmm.... just about every single scene of violence is missing.

From what I can remember, here are the cuts:

1) Riot at the football stadium > shot of the guy being punched in the face and the shot of him falling to the floor (oddly enough, later in the police station they show a photo of the dead guy... you wouldn't know this watching the Italian print so it's a very silly cut... What is perhaps bewildering is that it's just some bloke being punched - it's not graphic at all. We didn't even notice it at first when we were watching both prints side by side)

2) In the laboratory > shot of rats fighting each other (we didn't notice this till recently, a split second shot of the dead rat is missing and it's also missing from the composite, no big deal to be honest. I assume it's actually a fake dead rat, still not sure, eitherway if it was real then we did our bit for the RSPCA.

3) Long shot of the Joe Dallesandro's character leaving work and getting a lift from his friends.

4) Screwdriver attack > the Italian print cuts out a few seconds before the truck driver is stabbed, and then resumes after the attack is over.

5) Pimp attack > shot of the screwdriver in the nads' is missing.

6) The entire scene in the warehouse where they kill the two women (one with a forklift truck) is completely missing.

7) Aftermath with the bodies hanging from the statues (not sure if this is actually the pimp/prostitute? I could be wrong here... Anyway, there's a shot of the detective looking up at the corpses hanging on the statues - this is completely missing.

I'm missing one shot I think, but these are the main ones.

What gets me is why these scenes were cut in the first place? Italy isn't notorious for its censorship like dear old England - I can only guess that a) it was cut to be shown in the afternoon (unlikely) or b) it was cut at the time of release in the 1970s. I remember in an interview my wife and I conducted with Enzo Castellari that he described a certain period in the seventies when violence (of any kind) was somehow outlawed in films  - this came about when he told me why there aren't any guns used in the Inglorious Bastards (is that true?) I can only guess this period really didn't last long (months? a year?) and so Fango Bollente was caught up in this mess - this might also explain why it has never been released on video/dvd in Italy. I dunno... it's just speculation.

Btw/ Let me know if you want a copy? It came out quite well to be honest - you can also hear it in Italian so you don't have to suffer the terrible English dubbing.

 

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Re: Savage Three / Fango bollente (Vittorio Salerno, 1975)
« Reply #16 on: 01 Apr 2009 - 08:17 »

...there aren't any guns used in the Inglorious Bastards (is that true?)

More or less true yes. This odd rule came to pass halfway through the films shoot and that's why the second half of the film doesn't feature any guns.
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Re: Savage Three / Fango bollente (Vittorio Salerno, 1975)
« Reply #17 on: 01 Apr 2009 - 08:55 »


Hi Djangoli,

I would LOVE a copy! As I've said before, and I'll probably say again, it's one of my all-time favourites. Thank you posting that list of (crazy) cuts, and thank your wife for all the time and energy that she put into creating a composite - it must have been hard for her to watch Joe Dallesandro over and over, for hours and hours  :-\ (It was my girlfriend who got me into watching Joe, and I'm glad she did - I love his films). Thank you!
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Re: Savage Three / Fango bollente (Vittorio Salerno, 1975)
« Reply #18 on: 01 Apr 2009 - 09:37 »

...there aren't any guns used in the Inglorious Bastards (is that true?)

More or less true yes. This odd rule came to pass halfway through the films shoot and that's why the second half of the film doesn't feature any guns.

Cheers Jonny - does anyone have any other info about this?

Drmiaow - send a me a pm... i need to get down the post office in the next couple of days.
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Re: Savage Three / Fango bollente (Vittorio Salerno, 1975)
« Reply #19 on: 01 Apr 2009 - 09:54 »


Cheers Jonny - does anyone have any other info about this?


It's mentioned in the documentary on the Severin DVD
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Re: Savage Three / Fango bollente (Vittorio Salerno, 1975)
« Reply #20 on: 01 Apr 2009 - 18:40 »

I just wanted to chip in and say that Django Li did a wonderful job here. I watched his fan subbed composite a while ago and I have to say that my appreciation for the film went up quite a few notches.
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Re: Savage Three / Fango bollente (Vittorio Salerno, 1975)
« Reply #21 on: 04 Apr 2009 - 22:30 »

I need some help folks... DrMiaow has asked me for a copy of the subbed composite but I can only burn xvid files and he can't play them. Would a kind soul (preferably in the UK) be willing to send him a dvdr of it?

My pc is vintage - re-encoding to dvd would a) take ages and b) probably come out shit.

If I had my modded xbox here in Italy it wouldn't be a problem but it's back in London.  ???

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Re: Savage Three / Fango bollente (Vittorio Salerno, 1975)
« Reply #22 on: 04 Apr 2009 - 22:55 »

could someone please post a link for the english subs?
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Re: Savage Three / Fango bollente (Vittorio Salerno, 1975)
« Reply #24 on: 05 Apr 2009 - 23:09 »

thankyou
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Re: Savage Three / Fango bollente (Vittorio Salerno, 1975)
« Reply #25 on: 06 Apr 2009 - 18:14 »

Thanks for the subs DjangoLi, appreciate it.
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Re: Savage Three / Fango bollente (Vittorio Salerno, 1975)
« Reply #26 on: 06 Apr 2009 - 18:58 »

If nobody has stepped up already, i'm happy to send you a copy of DjangoLi's composite DrMiaow?
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Re: Savage Three / Fango bollente (Vittorio Salerno, 1975)
« Reply #27 on: 06 Apr 2009 - 22:02 »

No one's stepped up yet...  :D I'd love a copy Luca! Thank you!  :P
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Re: Savage Three / Fango bollente (Vittorio Salerno, 1975)
« Reply #28 on: 07 Apr 2009 - 11:19 »

Thanks Luca, I really appreciate you helping out - Jonny offered to help but I would have to send him my xvid file and then he would have to convert it/etc - if you can send him a copy that would be great Luca... I'm sure Jonny would appreciate it too.

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Re: Savage Three / Fango bollente (Vittorio Salerno, 1975)
« Reply #29 on: 07 Apr 2009 - 13:58 »

I've got a Greek video release of SAVAGE THREE.
Run time = 80m 20s
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