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TheCaptain

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ENTER THE NINJA - on Dave
« on: 04 Feb 2009 - 15:14 »

Did anyone record (onto disc) ENTER THE NINJA from the Dave UK TV screening from last night or a couple of weeks ago? I set my DVD recorder for the first showing and that messed the disc up, then last night my Sky box shut down after 45 minutes of recording...
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I'm willing to buy or trade for a copy of it - thanks.
Paul
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Raf A.

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Re: ENTER THE NINJA - on Dave
« Reply #1 on: 04 Feb 2009 - 15:43 »

My friend's made the uncut dvd, using MIA's cut dvd and MGM's uncut vhs.
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TheCaptain

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Re: ENTER THE NINJA - on Dave
« Reply #2 on: 04 Feb 2009 - 17:57 »

My friend's made the uncut dvd, using MIA's cut dvd and MGM's uncut vhs.

As far as I am aware there has never been an uncut VHS (anywhere). The print shown on Dave (also screened on Bravo or Sky Movies a long time ago) was complete...

Any more info?
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Re: ENTER THE NINJA - on Dave
« Reply #3 on: 04 Feb 2009 - 18:00 »

I'll ask around, surely someone we know recorded it!
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Raf A.

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Re: ENTER THE NINJA - on Dave
« Reply #4 on: 04 Feb 2009 - 18:21 »

My friend's made the uncut dvd, using MIA's cut dvd and MGM's uncut vhs.

As far as I am aware there has never been an uncut VHS (anywhere). The print shown on Dave (also screened on Bravo or Sky Movies a long time ago) was complete...

Any more info?
Well, this is his email, he'll answer all your questions menahemgolan@yahoo.com
hope it helps.
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Raf A.

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Re: ENTER THE NINJA - on Dave
« Reply #5 on: 04 Feb 2009 - 18:57 »

Ok, just called my friend. He claims the vhs is uncut for 100%. He'll register here and explain everything.
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TheCaptain

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Re: ENTER THE NINJA - on Dave
« Reply #6 on: 04 Feb 2009 - 19:36 »

I'm pretty sure that the MGM tape is cut - this TV version has numerous extra gore/violence shots, lots of weapon injuries (Throwing Stars, Nunchucks, etc) and a cockfight sequence! Can you get the running time of your friend's tape?
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hakob

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Re: ENTER THE NINJA - on Dave
« Reply #7 on: 04 Feb 2009 - 20:36 »

I'm pretty sure that the MGM tape is cut - this TV version has numerous extra gore/violence shots, lots of weapon injuries (Throwing Stars, Nunchucks, etc) and a cockfight sequence! Can you get the running time of your friend's tape?

Hi. I'm Raf's friend.
I have the MGM tape, and all the violent scenes, gore, Frank's throat-cut, stars, nunchakus, cock-fights is there.
may be there have been different editions, mine is for sure uncut. I reauthored MIA's DVD, added the missing pieces,
it's PAL. Difference makes more than 4 minutes. I'll enumerate.

These are the cuts:
1. There was a cut in main subtitles (just when writing Franco Nero and Susan George). In the UK (MIA DVD) version there's just
a black background and in MGM VHS there's Sho Kosugi with nunchakus.
2. The very first fight scene between Kosugi and Nero is entirely cut in UK version. Kosugi fights with ninchakus, Nero cuts the chain in half, then only Nero runs away from him. And in UK this part is very badly cut.
3. The fight scene in the woods between Nero and two maroon ninjas - after Nero cuts maroon ninja's hand in UK version we see Nero jumping over the camera etc. In MGM VHS after that part another maroon ninja jumps, Nero nails his hand to the tree, then throws a star that gets into ninja's forehead.
4. Then there's a cock-fight, right after that Nero training with nunchakus, Susan stops the car and offers to take him to the town. That's all cut in UK.
5. There's a short cut with slight gore when scums are beating Pee-wee (Frank's worker).
6. Nero fighting in the bar, there's a cut with ear-clap. Nice moment, short but very nice.
7. Another cock-fight before the hook comes with new recruits.
8. When Frank goes to the meeting there are some little cuts when Nero takes care of the guards (repeated punches, neck breaking etc).
9. There's a cut when Kosugi demonstrates his skills to mister Parker (nunchakus is cut)
10. One of the most gory scenes - Kosugi sneaks on the wall and kills the guard by smashing the head. In the UK version he just silently passes by, the guard keeps smoking and then we see Marry Ann pouring wine.
11. In frank's killing scene there were many cuts - after Kosugi cuts Frank's hand he even breaks it, Frank runs away, sees Marry Ann, runs to her, Kosugi throws a star after Frank, first one misses, he throws the second, it gets into Frank's leg, then only he cuts Frank's throat. That throat-cut part is also cut in the UK version.
12. There's a frame showing stars when Nero is prepared to go get Venarius.
13. After Nero kills the guard and then comes upstairs, he throws a star on another one with rifle. Killing with star is cut .
14. There are also many cuts when Nero kills the guards in the end to get to Venarius, three guards' killings are completely cut, I just don't know the weapons to explain how he kills the first, something like nails. The second one he kills with darts. And the third is a gory one - Nero's star gets into the bald guard's forehead standing beside Venarius. In the UK version you just notice that the bald guy somehow disappeared (but he was just standing there) and have to guess that Nero kills the other guard (not bald) beside Venarius with dart as he just falls down.
15. Christopher George's death scene is cut as well, they tried to cut as much as possible not to show the star, and in MGM tape
we even see the star flying and getting into his chest. This one is shot just great.
16. There's also a star cut in the final Nero-Kosugi fight scene.
 I think that's all.


 
   
 
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TheCaptain

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Re: ENTER THE NINJA - on Dave
« Reply #8 on: 04 Feb 2009 - 20:49 »

Thanks for the excellent info Hakob - great work! I guess there must be an uncut MGM tape after all, I stand corrected - which country did this come from?
I've just been on to Dave TV and they are screening it again on the 14th March in the early hours. I will attempt a third recording in the hope that I have no more technical glitches...
If you want to send me a PM re. your version, I'd be more than happy  ;D
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Sundance

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Re: ENTER THE NINJA - on Dave
« Reply #9 on: 05 Feb 2009 - 19:40 »

This was shown in Finnish TV couple of years ago in anamorphic widescreen and unfortunately with burned-in subs and commercial breaks (you can of course edit those out but there are probably some frame losses anyways when the film switches into commercials and back again). The film appears to have been shot soft-matted so fullframe versions show more image.

I think it is uncut but I haven't compared it to the cuts listed here or anywhere else. Total length is something like 95minutes 30 seconds after commercials have been removed.

Here are some screenshots from the four first cuts mentioned by hakob:
http://www.sundances.net/images/entertheninja/ninja3.jpg
http://www.sundances.net/images/entertheninja/ninja7.jpg
http://www.sundances.net/images/entertheninja/ninja2.jpg
http://www.sundances.net/images/entertheninja/ninja6.jpg
http://www.sundances.net/images/entertheninja/ninja5.jpg

And some bonus images :P
http://www.sundances.net/images/entertheninja/ninja1.jpg
http://www.sundances.net/images/entertheninja/ninja4.jpg
http://www.sundances.net/images/entertheninja/ninja9.jpg
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