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Re: Cinekult (Italy)
« Reply #60 on: 01 Jun 2013 - 16:29 »

Are they back?
It's by Mustang Entertainment, a brand new label operating in home video and using the CG Home Video salesmen's network, hence the dvd cover
http://www.hitechweb.info/migliavacca-duradoni-nasce-mustang-entertainment/

Thanks for the info,wondering if they'll release more (and with English subs)... ;)
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Re: Cinekult (Italy)
« Reply #61 on: 01 Jun 2013 - 16:43 »

Yes, more releases (but already issued by other labels) to come next by that label Mustang
Sella d'argento by L. Fulci
Una pistola per Ringo by D. Tessari
Non più di uno by B. Pelosso
Nero veneziano by U. Liberatore
Matalo by C. Canevari
I giorni dell'ira by T. Valerii
and Italian sexy comedies, Italian classics, crime, giallo movies and so on...but nothing unearthed from the hidden gems vaults...
http://www.eprice.it/s/film-e-dvd&zz=/&br=MUSTANG%20ENTERTAINMENT&pp=1
I don't think the dvds are provided by English subs, it's simply a reprint of other catalogues, I guess...
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« Reply #62 on: 04 Jun 2013 - 18:12 »

Yes, they are supposed to reprint OOP DVDs from Medusa catalogue...
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Re: Cinekult (Italy)
« Reply #63 on: 09 Jul 2013 - 21:34 »

Thought I'd share the good news here:

Cinekult appear to be back in action, this quote was from Davide Pulici's FB page on the 8th of July....

"tanto tuonò che non piovve: "ok, riprendiamo con Cinekult. Il primo lotto è Nosferatu a Venezia (Mustang), La moglie più bella e La bocca" D.PULICI su facebook 8/7/2012"

It basically means let's pick up again with Cinekult - Nosferatu.... is a Mustang release (as noted above) but La Moglie Piu Bella... looks like it's a Cinekult release.

Probably not English friendly (as usual) but it's great news all the same.

English subs/dubs can always be patched up later  ::) I did offer my services for free, regarding subs... doubt they'll actually take me up on the offer though.



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Re: Cinekult (Italy)
« Reply #64 on: 09 Jul 2013 - 21:58 »

Great news, thanks for posting, mate. Let's hope we get more unreleased gialli and poliziotteschi.
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Re: Cinekult (Italy)
« Reply #65 on: 10 Jul 2013 - 10:56 »

I did offer my services for free, regarding subs... doubt they'll actually take me up on the offer though.
They won't because these are actual conditions to respect when issuing a movie on a DVD for a market, it's simply a thing determined by commercial and distribution contracts.
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« Reply #66 on: 10 Jul 2013 - 12:05 »

I did offer my services for free, regarding subs... doubt they'll actually take me up on the offer though.
They won't because these are actual conditions to respect when issuing a movie on a DVD for a market, it's simply a thing determined by commercial and distribution contracts.

Yeah, I fully agree - but the fact that anyone can buy a Cinekult DVD, regardless of what country they are in, with just a few mouse clicks makes that point completely redundant in the real world.

Blue Underground, Severin, Cinekult, RARO, FilmArt, Camera Obscura, etc... only have the rights to these films in their respective countries... so anyone (for example) buying a Camera Obscura disc outside of Germany is, in fact, breaking the terms and conditions the rights holders laid out to Camera Obscura. They only have the rights to sell their discs in Germany... and so on.

You are perfectly right Quidtum, hence my comment that they probably won't be contacting me anytime soon... but it's a situation that makes very little sense.

I also wonder what kind of dialogue these people actually have with the rights holders? One universal release would yield them far more cash than six or seven staggered releases that barely sell... The only comments I've heard 'behind the scenes' is that a lot of these companies aren't particularly friendly to each other - and therein lies the problem, it all boils down to cash at the end of the day. The films come in second, hence the endless re-issues of the same films... over and over again.

I don't take much joy in working on the Cinekult customs - I would rather they were English friendly from the start - and the extra money they make would go back into getting more 'new' titles released.  Is there any chance these films would have gotten a release if we hadn't made these customs? Nope, there's fuck all to suggest they would (see my previous point)

Some more food for thought (and completely unrelated to my above points - but it might give some people an idea of the bigger picture)

Interviewing Umberto Lenzi I was surprised to learn that all these films we know and love only had a shelf-life of just 5 years - after that time the prints were destroyed. Bear in mind that right up until the late 70's and early 80's there was no hope of these films being screened on national television because they were (at that time) generally considered too violent, or sexually explicit. It wasn't until the private channels reared their heads that this all changed - the only downside, of course, is that they also played a key part in killing the industry as people could now stay at home and watch these films instead of paying to go to the cinema.... It didn't kill the industry (many of these channels were essentially pirate channels and didn't pay the rights holders anything) but it was a significant factor in the decline and then (almost) demise.

Umberto Lenzi (as an example) hasn't made a penny from any VHS or DVD release, along with all his contemporaries, the only time they see any financial return is when their films are screened on national television here in Italy. There's a law that states that royalties must be paid to the director, composer, and scriptwriter. It's this money that allows a lot of these people to survive.... not from any sale of a DVD or Blu-Ray disc.



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Re: Cinekult (Italy)
« Reply #67 on: 10 Jul 2013 - 13:00 »

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Umberto Lenzi (as an example) hasn't made a penny from any VHS or DVD release, along with all his contemporaries, the only time they see any financial return is when their films are screened on national television here in Italy. There's a law that states that royalties must be paid to the director, composer, and scriptwriter. It's this money that allows a lot of these people to survive.... not from any sale of a DVD or Blu-Ray disc.
This is not entirely correct: directors, writers and composers actually get some royalties from DVDs and blu-rays, but admittedly these fees are very very low. I know this for sure because an Italian friend of mine had a couple of his films released on DVD and he obtained some hundred euros as royalties (the so-called "equo compenso").
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Re: Cinekult (Italy)
« Reply #68 on: 12 Nov 2014 - 12:06 »

I've just ordered some things off of Cinekult, and I got the message to go the "My Kult Video" panel, but when I do, it says I have no orders. Anyone else have this problem?
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