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[demented_uk]

AssaultSuit is spot on, the Italian Blu-Ray looks shite; excessive noise reduction galore.

[the blob]

Code Red BD... 

Pain in the arse to buy coupled with probably using the same master as the Italian BD and probably not the best encoded, should be a winner all round.

[babybreese]

If they use the Italian master it'll be a trainwreck.  But if it's something better, I'll be very interested, & will wait for reviews to decide what to do.  You never know what CR is gonna do until it's been done.

Word is CR is also eyeballing these 4 titles for possible BD release
Fulci's DEVIL'S HONEY (1986)
Deodato's BODY COUNT (1986)
Deodato's JUNGLE HOLOCAUST (1977)
Frank Agrama's  DAWN OF THE MUMMY (1981)

[Raf A.]

I think Bill has said he will be working with those fucktards from LVR 

[babybreese]

jesus.  worst-news-possible

[CameraObscura]

We have to say a word about this LVR hate. LVR is one of our two preferred labs in Italy since they actually do a really great job. In terms of HD-masters, MARIALÉ and COME CANI ARRABBIATI were done by them, and I guess you can't say these are hack jobs. They will also be doing our upcoming WHAT HAVE THEY DONE TO YOUR DAUGHTERS? as well as many other projects we have in the pipline.

The trick is to be involved in the process right from the start, and tell them exactly what you want them to do. But you have to do that with every other lab, so that's not LVR's fault, but personal preference.

The bad lab in Italy is another one, which we try to avoid, and which continues to do catastrophic work. If tha one's involved, you really have a reason to worry.

[Paul]

Let's face it, Bill doesn't seem to have a good word to say about anyone, anyway.

[Raf A.]

We have to say a word about this LVR hate. LVR is one of our two preferred labs in Italy since they actually do a really great job. In terms of HD-masters, MARIALÉ and COME CANI ARRABBIATI were done by them, and I guess you can't say these are hack jobs. They will also be doing our upcoming WHAT HAVE THEY DONE TO YOUR DAUGHTERS? as well as many other projects we have in the pipline.

The trick is to be involved in the process right from the start, and tell them exactly what you want them to do. But you have to do that with every other lab, so that's not LVR's fault, but personal preference.

The bad lab in Italy is another one, which we try to avoid, and which continues to do catastrophic work. If tha one's involved, you really have a reason to worry.

Well, I really don't get it, some of Raro's releases are made by them and they are just fucking awful, with that terrible scanner noise etc. I didn't notice that noise and fake grain on your blu-rays. So if no one tells them they don't want the scanner noise, the LVR guys will leave it intact, did I get you right?

[CameraObscura]

The Raro releases are from the other lab, at least the really shitty ones.

The problem is the excessive noise reduction which is easier to do than a nuanced cleaning job. We also retouch every transfer we make ourselves by hand since not everything can be done with automatic cleaning if you do it like this.

[JAMIOUSE]

That would explain a lot! It's strange how Fulci's Devils Honey could get a blu releases but its never appeared on US or UK DVD.

[Russell22]

Raro's "Nightmare City" looked like it had been DNR'd to fuck. Very disappointing that one. Their releases do seem to be very hit and miss. "Killer Cop" looked great though imo

[Inspector Tanzi]

It's strange how Fulci's Devils Honey could get a blu releases but its never appeared on US or UK DVD.

Why is it strange? Happens a fair bit with all kinds of films.

[Paul]

With all due respect, Jamiouse, a lot of what you say seems to be derived from guessing, mate.

As Tanzi says, there are stacks of great films that have debuted on Blu-ray.

[JAMIOUSE]

But given the mad rush for Fulci titles back in the day with Blue Underground, Shriek Show etc Devils Honey seemed to get missed. Even EC Entertainment didn't put it out on dvd and they released virtually everything Fulci directed in the 80's and early 90's on disc. Just seems a bit funny to me that Devils Honey could make it's home release debut on blu, I'd always thought the rights must have been silly money or the print was in really bad condition.

But anyway, to pick up from Camera Obscuras post it seems that studios have to basically tell LVR and other labs exactly what they do and don't want ie. DNR and scanner noise. That just sounds crazy, if your paying the labs to produce a HD master for you you'd expect it to be the best the lab can create without adding scanner noise and macro blocking. 

[Raf A.]

Raro's "Nightmare City" looked like it had been DNR'd to fuck. Very disappointing that one. Their releases do seem to be very hit and miss. "Killer Cop" looked great though imo

Also Meet Him And Die and Stunt Squad. Absolutely garbage releases.