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Author Topic: Doomsday (Neil Marshall, 2007)  (Read 11847 times)

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Re: Doomsday (Neil Marshall, 2007)
« Reply #15 on: 15 Mar 2008 - 20:40 »

I can't wait to see this either, love a post apocalytic movie! Marshall's first two features were both excellent, anyone listened to the commentary on Dog Soldiers? It's fucking hilarious they're all well oiled. The only thing that worries me about Doomsday is South Africa standing in for the north Of England and Scotland, lets face it the weather is proper shite up here and sunny South Africa is going to be a hard match in anyones book  :-\
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Re: Doomsday (Neil Marshall, 2007)
« Reply #16 on: 17 Mar 2008 - 22:43 »

Doomsday grossed $4,743,000 this passed weekend coming in at number 7. I've read a lot of people getting up and walking out on this one. Most fans seem to have expected something more from Marshall after the excellent THE DESCENT as opposed to a film that lifts wholesale from ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK and the MAD MAX films. Still wanna and plan to see it this week, though.
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Re: Doomsday (Neil Marshall, 2007)
« Reply #17 on: 18 Mar 2008 - 04:28 »

I enjoyed it for what it was...  a few scenes had me cringing, but overall I had fun with it.
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« Reply #18 on: 18 Mar 2008 - 13:45 »

I enjoyed it for what it was...  a few scenes had me cringing, but overall I had fun with it.

That sums up my feelings - I had fun with it. I saw it last night in a mostly empty theater, my friend and 3 others. A fun throwback to all those post-apocalypse classics with a dash of one or two other nods, like Aliens. Rhona Mitra was very good in the lead, and Hoskins brings a welcome touch of gravitas but Sean Pertwee is wasted in a throwaway role, a big disappointment to me as I really like him. My other major gripe is the standard way most action sequences are shot today - lots of quick cutting and shaky camera - there`s a great death match ala Thunderdome that would have benefitted from a steadier approach and the big car chase pales in comparison to Road Warrior. There are some other thrilling chase scenes though, particularly in a train station, and the Carpenteresque score is totally cool, as is hearing Adam and the Ants` 'Dog Eat Dog'! The gore is really plentiful as well, more loose noggins than I`ve seen in a long time. I do wonder how this film will stand up to repeat viewings but I`d give it a recommendation.
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« Reply #19 on: 30 Mar 2008 - 16:14 »

I saw it with a friend the other night, we both got a kick out of it
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Re: Doomsday (Neil Marshall, 2007)
« Reply #20 on: 01 Apr 2008 - 02:52 »

***DOUBT IT, BUT MIGHT BE SOME POSSIBLE SPOILERS AHEAD***

Just got back from seeing DOOMSDAY and while I liked it, the movie unapologetically rips off big time from ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK, MAD MAX, ROAD WARRIOR and a bit from THE WARRIORS but even before the film came out just reading the synopsis gives that much away but not since the Italians raped popular films of their plot lines has there been such blatant plagiarism. The duration of the film I couldn’t get these other movies out of my head. Even certain musical cues are awfully similar to ESCAPE FROM NY. The opening sequence looks almost directly lifted from Carpenter’s film even down to the card displaying the year followed by the word…NOW. There’s even a guy named Carpenter in the film. The lead actress also wears an eye patch for crying out loud (only during the first sequence with her than it’s abandoned). She also has a limited amount of time (48 hours) to get inside the wall and find a cure for the disease before all hell breaks loose.

The characters, the way they look, dress and their actions are all amalgamations of the above mentioned films. The car chase finale rips from Miller’s movies and even manages to recall a bit from ESCAPE in which the remaining heroes traverse an obstacle course of wrecked vehicles (minus the mines). ALIENS is also pilfered with its marines and the vehicles (they look just like the ones seen in the Cameron flick) they travel around in. The virus itself recalls 28 DAYS LATER or even Lenzi’s NIGHTMARE CITY if you want to be more accurate as many of the crazed victims reminded me more of the “zombies” in Lenzi’s classic exploitation opus.

The only thing that comes close to ruining the flick are the action scenes. Numerous times I kept saying to myself, “Please Mr. Cameraman, pull back just a bit so I can see what the hell is going on!” Not only does the camera cling tight to the combatants, but the editing is horrible in these scenes (even the daylight fight scenes) rendering the action mostly incomprehensible.

While a lot of people seemed to complain over the fact that there’s a medieval castle during the second half of the film, considering the film takes place in Europe I don’t see the big deal. The one thing that is odd is that everybody is wearing clothes right out of the ‘Knights of the Round Table’. Who is their tailor? This segment is alluded to earlier in the flick when a tape recorded message from Malcolm McDowall is played. He references Medieval times in his playback. Plus, the medieval social order he and his followers have resorted to is symbolic in a way. He speaks of “shedding their apparel”, starting over so to speak in reference to the state the Reaper Virus has placed mankind or at least Great Britain and portions of Europe.

The only character who gets any real development is Rhona Mitra and even she could be viewed as a rip off because of her similarity to actress Kate Beckinsale whom I initially thought was the star of this movie. She has a cool eyeball that acts as a recorder. She pops it out and tosses it down hallways to see what’s going on. She uses this ability during her first sequence when she has the eye patch. She keeps her orb in her skull the remainder of the picture. It’s a shame the female ROAD WARRIOR cannibal psycho pit fighter didn’t last very long or get more screen time as she was kind of interesting. She does pop up at the end though in some capacity.

There’s lots of gore throughout, too and the cannibalism scene is right extreme and one of the high points. There’s no shortage of the red stuff and I just wish the fights were shot and edited a little better so as to see the movements and who was hitting who. This erratic method of shooting and editing action comes to a head during the final car chase. The main heavy leaps into the car the heroes are driving and you hear all manner of sound effects signaling punches and bones popping but you can’t tell who is hitting who. I couldn’t imagine watching this full screen. There needs to be more HK choreographers on movies like this as they allow scenes to breath and don’t rely on loud sound effects of kicks and punches and rapid fire editing to sell a fight sequence.

DOOMSDAY is generally a fun movie if you don’t mind all the obvious pilfering, ripping off, homage whatever you want to call it. For me this goes a bit beyond homage. Considering what Marshall did before this, it is kind of perplexing that he would do such a movie as his big Hollywood debut and not go for something more original and eye catching. It’s definitely trashy fun that although rips from other more well known movies, the “stink” of more exploitative films from the likes of Lenzi and Mattei seem to be in the air as well. Listening to a Marshall commentary track will be interesting.
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« Reply #21 on: 01 Apr 2008 - 04:40 »

I think the vehicles were also a nod to DAMNATION ALLEY, I hadn't thought of ALIENS but now that you mention it there is a similarity there too.
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« Reply #22 on: 13 Jul 2008 - 18:20 »

Here's the first review - from ign.com - I've seen of the upcoming standard def R1 NTSC unrated DOOMSDAY disc.

Loved DOG SOLDIERS & THE DESCENT, but somehow missed this theatrically (maybe it didn't come to Olympia?).

Anyways, can't wait to pick this up!  Street date is July 29, 2008. 

http://dvd.ign.com/articles/887/887955p1.html
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« Reply #23 on: 15 Jul 2008 - 10:10 »

I'll be getting the Blu-ray, if it's not region coded, that is...
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« Reply #24 on: 15 Jul 2008 - 10:25 »

I'll be getting the Blu-ray, if it's not region coded, that is...

Why? Unless it's free...
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« Reply #25 on: 15 Jul 2008 - 10:50 »

I'll be getting the Blu-ray, if it's not region coded, that is...

Why? Unless it's free...

Didn't you like this then, mate?
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« Reply #26 on: 15 Jul 2008 - 11:02 »

No, it was terrible.

I'm not that big a fan of the post apocalyptic genre stuff really so I guess it's just not for me but I like to think I know a bad film when I see one and this was bad.
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« Reply #27 on: 15 Jul 2008 - 11:10 »

No, it was terrible.

I'm not that big a fan of the post apocalyptic genre stuff really so I guess it's just not for me but I like to think I know a bad film when I see one and this was bad.

I've not seen this, but it certainly seems to polarise people. Those that have seen it either love it or hate it.
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« Reply #28 on: 15 Jul 2008 - 11:26 »

It'll probably be quite entertaining in HD and the surround sound pumped up in your living room mate. A couple of ales and some pizza and you'll be right with it I reckon.
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« Reply #29 on: 15 Jul 2008 - 11:33 »

It'll probably be quite entertaining in HD and the surround sound pumped up in your living room mate. A couple of ales and some pizza and you'll be right with it I reckon.

I might watch it first, before buying it though. I used to buy a lot of new films blind, but have calmed down considerably  :-\
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