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Author Topic: The Outside Man/Un homme est mort (Jacques Deray, 1972)  (Read 6880 times)

MikeMalloy

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Most French Eurocrimers don't do it for me. Melville's stuff, for instance, is a little too cold and detached (hope that's not sacrilege on this board).

But Deray's THE OUTSIDE MAN -- even though its hitman protagonist (Jean-Louis Trintignant) is every bit as reserved and taciturn as a Delon hero in a Melville film -- plays a lot warmer to me. It must be the American locations, American-style music and Hollywood supporting cast (Roy Scheider, Angie Dickinson, Ann-Margaret, Jackie Earl Haley).

I really love this movie, and its slow-paced realism (which again, would be a turn-off in the hands of Melville and Delon). The only distraction for me was Trintignant's height (man, that guy is SHORT).

Nonetheless, he makes an exciting hero as the hitman who is himself a target for assassination (a predicament which is nicely complicated by the hitman being on assignment in a foreign country, where he knows nobody).

Anyone else seen/like?

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Re: The Outside Man/Un homme est mort (Jacques Deray, 1972)
« Reply #1 on: 07 Dec 2007 - 17:03 »

Never seen this one and I share your views on French crime films Mike so there'll be no lynching today.  :'(

How'd you see this? DVD? VHS?
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Re: The Outside Man/Un homme est mort (Jacques Deray, 1972)
« Reply #2 on: 07 Dec 2007 - 17:12 »

I got it on a trade.

I was hoping my post would cause someone to let loose with some good news about a release. Anyone know if this will be coming to disc anytime soon?

Here's the only glimmer of hope -- Bill Lustig mentioning THE OUTSIDE MAN in an interview about cool '70s films he loves (in the context of films he'd like to release):

http://twitchfilm.net/site/view/blue-underground-forgotten-70s-cinema-interview-with-bill-lustig/
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Re: The Outside Man/Un homme est mort (Jacques Deray, 1972)
« Reply #3 on: 07 Dec 2007 - 21:36 »

Derray did some of the Belmondo flicks - can't remember which ones, off the top of my head, though I seem to think he did IL PROFESSIONALE...
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Re: The Outside Man/Un homme est mort (Jacques Deray, 1972)
« Reply #4 on: 13 Feb 2008 - 21:28 »


How'd you see this? DVD? VHS?

Someone on the Spaghetti Western Web Board just pointed out that there is a French DVD of this, and I just looked on a couple of French sites, and I found TWO releases:

http://www.amazon.fr/Coffret-Jacques-Deray-DVD-Rififi/dp/B0000AKQJP/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1202940701&sr=1-2

and

http://www.priceminister.com/offer/buy/2549543/Un-Homme-Est-Mort-DVD-Zone-2.html

Anybody able to tell if either of these has "Version English" language?

Oh, and RIP Roy...
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Re: The Outside Man/Un homme est mort (Jacques Deray, 1972)
« Reply #5 on: 13 Feb 2008 - 21:36 »

Only place I could find with any language info was over a fnac and it says French language only...

Fnac link
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Re: The Outside Man/Un homme est mort (Jacques Deray, 1972)
« Reply #6 on: 13 Feb 2008 - 21:42 »

Thanks, Jonny. Anybody know about that other DVD release?
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Re: The Outside Man/Un homme est mort (Jacques Deray, 1972)
« Reply #7 on: 13 Feb 2008 - 21:46 »

From the looks of it the other DVD came free with a magazine called 'Figaro', chances of that having English?
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Re: The Outside Man/Un homme est mort (Jacques Deray, 1972)
« Reply #8 on: 13 Feb 2008 - 22:06 »

Good observation, Mr. R.

(Sheesh, none of the mags I subscribe to insert anything as cool as an OUTSIDE MAN dvd!)
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Re: The Outside Man/Un homme est mort (Jacques Deray, 1972)
« Reply #9 on: 13 Feb 2008 - 22:14 »

From the looks of it the other DVD came free with a magazine called 'Figaro', chances of that having English?
Le Figaro is a big newspaper here in France,i'll have to start buying if they're giving films like this away with it.
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Re: The Outside Man/Un homme est mort (Jacques Deray, 1972)
« Reply #10 on: 17 Mar 2008 - 12:54 »

Just seen this thread. I still have the English dub of 'Outside Man' somewhere, haven't seen the film in years but I remember I taped it off of the UK 'Bravo' channel of all places. Not sure if they censored it but I could transfer it onto DVD-R some time soon if anyone was interested?.

(Being a satelite broadcast, it's most probably not the version with the nudity in it though but I could check...)
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Re: The Outside Man/Un homme est mort (Jacques Deray, 1972)
« Reply #11 on: 17 Mar 2008 - 13:01 »

I'd be interested  :P
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Re: The Outside Man/Un homme est mort (Jacques Deray, 1972)
« Reply #12 on: 17 Mar 2008 - 13:04 »

No problem Jonny. I'll try and check my print this week and report my findings! Fingers crossed it's the uncut version but I think it's more likely to be the Dubbed US PG print.
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Re: The Outside Man/Un homme est mort (Jacques Deray, 1972)
« Reply #13 on: 17 Mar 2008 - 14:29 »

What nudity are you referencing, Luca? On the part of Ann-Margaret or Angie Dickinson? (In the version I have, they're both skimpily dressed but never get outright nude.)

I read somewhere that an X-rated version was shown a few years back in a revival screening, but I assumed it was X-rated due to violence, not nudity/sex.

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Re: The Outside Man/Un homme est mort (Jacques Deray, 1972)
« Reply #14 on: 17 Mar 2008 - 20:47 »

Having not seen the film for quite some years and also not having immediate access to my print, I was going by some info on the web. The info stated that in some US prints, the full frontal nudity (and general nudity) was cut from the scene where Jean-Louis Trintignant meets Ann Margaret at the seedy club.

Now, here is the good news...

I dug out my old tape and have just finished watching 'Un Homme Est Mort/Outside Man' and have also transfered it onto DVD-R.

The copy is excellent. It is English language (the way the film was originally shot) and Full screen.
Here's the real gravy though...it also features the full frontal nudity in the club and clocks in at a PAL running time of 100 mins which when converted to NTSC is 104 mins...the listed uncut running time for this film.

Anyone interested in a copy of this English print, please drop me a PM and we can maybe work something out.

Top film by the way, I forgot just how good it is...that shoot out in the funeral parlour at the end is great stuff!.

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