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Title: Anthropophagus and Liverpool trading standards
Post by: herman on 31 Oct 2007 - 20:13
Hi all,

I think I read somewhere about a raid in the 80s where copies of Anthropophagus were seized (liverpool I think it was) as it was believed to be a snuff film.

I am trying to find out as much as possible about this with the view to putting together an article about the video nasty era.  So any info will be gratefully received.  Particularly interested in dates, so I can track down copies of newspaper coverage of this, any scans of newpaper articles regarding the raid, cover scans from the offending vhs, oh and any books that refer to this, preferably ones in print so I can order from powells, amazon or wherever sells them.

I am not the worlds greatest googler but so far the internet has turned up nothing at all. 

My other related challenge is to find out as much as possible about the cannibal holocaust court case where it was alleged that CH was a snuff film- but thats for another day :)

I am hoping to put out a one off paper (fanzine/magazine) covering this as a spin off from the bloody italiana blog selling at production cost price plus postage, but first its info gathering time and this forum is probably the best starting point.

so any help would be appreicated my email contact details are linked to my profile on http://bloodyitaliana.blogspot.com/

I hope to tie this lot in with an article my brother wrote some time ago regarding the snuff scare and get the lot off to a printers for a small run to sell, maybe 100 copies.

I am only doing all this as it seemed to big a subject to cover in blog posting though if printing proves too costly I might just create a small webpage where it can be read. (maybe in pdf).

though I kind of like the idea of a magazine format as it is something to keep,

anyhow thanks for taking time to read this :)

regards,
herman.



Title: Re: Anthropophagus and Liverpool trading standards
Post by: Jonny on 31 Oct 2007 - 20:16
Nice one herman, if I find anything out that I think you might be interested in I'll be sure to let you know sir.  :'(
Title: Re: Anthropophagus and Liverpool trading standards
Post by: Stephen Grimes on 31 Oct 2007 - 20:23

I am trying to find out as much as possible about this with the view to putting together an article about the video nasty era. 
Have you read the 400 page SEE NO EVIL(Headpress) book which covers all this subject including the court cases?
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Title: Re: Anthropophagus and Liverpool trading standards
Post by: Jonny on 31 Oct 2007 - 20:24
Not read that book, is it worth a purchase Stephen?
Title: Re: Anthropophagus and Liverpool trading standards
Post by: herman on 31 Oct 2007 - 20:28
stephen thank you thank you,   ::)

I will track this down straight away.  With a tightish budget I had to make sure I get the right books, this seems to be a great start.  At some stage I m going to have to get off to libraries to get newspaper articles on this but I am sure the book will point me in the right direction. 

thanks again, I had a feeling you would come up with something as your occasional comments on our blog are always insightful and point me in the right direction regarding films to track down, without you I would not have got around to ordering new godfathers from trash-online,  ::)

anyhow, off to find that book....
Title: Re: Anthropophagus and Liverpool trading standards
Post by: Stephen Grimes on 31 Oct 2007 - 20:29
Not read that book, is it worth a purchase Stephen?
Defo,it's the last word on the subject.An amazing book that delves deep into the whole nasties/pre-cert era and interviews label bosses,people involved in court cases etc,it also covers some of the black market/bootleg video scene some of us were involved with back in the 90's.
Title: Re: Anthropophagus and Liverpool trading standards
Post by: Stephen Grimes on 31 Oct 2007 - 20:30

thanks again, I had a feeling you would come up with something as your occasional comments on our blog are always insightful and point me in the right direction regarding films to track down, without you I would not have got around to ordering new godfathers from trash-online,  ::)
No problem mate,thanks for the kind comments :P
Title: Re: Anthropophagus and Liverpool trading standards
Post by: Jonny on 31 Oct 2007 - 20:33
Sounds like a must buy from some of the comments I've just been reading.

Best price I can find so far is £21 in the used & new section of Amazon.uk
Title: Re: Anthropophagus and Liverpool trading standards
Post by: herman on 31 Oct 2007 - 20:36
Sounds like a must buy from some of the comments I've just been reading.

Best price I can find so far is £21 in the used & new section of Amazon.uk

darn! I bet you get that one before me.  :-\ The US site puts it at $130 dollars.

I also found one on there called-

Seduction of the Gullible: The Truth Behind the Video Nasty Scandal


Title: Re: Anthropophagus and Liverpool trading standards
Post by: Jonny on 31 Oct 2007 - 20:39
I'm skint at the moment mate! Just spent all my money on the kids Christmas presents!

Seduction of the Gullible is a great book, I'd recommend buying the new colour edition from 'The Darkside' link here (http://www.darksidemagazine.com/BOOKS/books.htm)
Title: Re: Anthropophagus and Liverpool trading standards
Post by: Stephen Grimes on 31 Oct 2007 - 20:47
Herman it might be worth checking out the pre-cert forum as well,one of the regular posters over there,Bigandya,was involved in a court case over nasties/tape trading in the 90's.Great bloke who i'm sure will only be too willing to help you out,i think his case was also covered in the See No Evil book .
Btw you have to register as a member before you can view the forum
www.pre-cert.co.uk (http://www.pre-cert.co.uk)
Title: Re: Anthropophagus and Liverpool trading standards
Post by: herman on 01 Nov 2007 - 05:19
okay just got in from night shift at work. will do that stephen but will get some shuteye first for a few hours.
Title: Re: Anthropophagus and Liverpool trading standards
Post by: demented_uk on 02 Nov 2007 - 09:51
Not sure what the updated version of Seduction of the Gullible is like but the Procrustes Press version from the mid-nineties has a chronological history of the nasties moral panic and provides key dates.  There are also a number of newspaper clippings contained. 

See No Evil is also a must own and for £21 it is a steal.  I have seen copies of this book go for around £50.  Kerekes and Slater are (were?) one hell of a writing team, this really is the final word on the subject of video controversy.  I wrote a paper on the panic a few years back and found this book to be essential.

You will also find some odd newspaper clippings reproduced in issues of The Dark Side who built its name of the video nasties moral panic.

Below are some newspaper clippings that I used in my paper, not sure if they will be useful.  Just look at the use of rhetoric "Tragic young victims of evil"  ;D

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The above one is actually on a Birmingham film fair raid and identifies ANTHROPOPHAGUS explicitly.

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Title: Re: Anthropophagus and Liverpool trading standards
Post by: herman on 03 Nov 2007 - 02:03
thanks for all the help guys, I ve got plenty now to be getting on with.  :P
Title: Re: Anthropophagus and Liverpool trading standards
Post by: Jay on 03 Nov 2007 - 10:45
The tapes that the tradings standards officer belonged to a pal of mine. He got fined over 4000UK. I was never surpised he got raided after advertising his wares in horror magazines.
Title: Re: Anthropophagus and Liverpool trading standards
Post by: Jay on 04 Nov 2007 - 11:33
Hey Herman,

Just got your mail. I can certainly help for your research as I done a piece on my pal and the background of his case for Rue Morgue magazine some years ago. I am more than happy to post the article here if it´s okay with the others.

Just saw Jack Brook´s Monster Slayer. What an odd movie.

Jay
Title: Re: Anthropophagus and Liverpool trading standards
Post by: Jonny on 04 Nov 2007 - 12:00
I am more than happy to post the article here if it´s okay with the others.

Fine by me mate, I'd love to read it.
Title: Re: Anthropophagus and Liverpool trading standards
Post by: herman on 04 Nov 2007 - 14:57
Jay,

appreciated mate,  :P