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Title: And God Said to Cain (Antonio Margheriti, 1969)
Post by: The Hunchback on 07 Jul 2007 - 07:59
"E Dio disse a Caino"

Review for
And God said to Cain

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After enduring ten years of hard labor for a crime he did not commit, Gary Hamilton (Klaus Kinski) is given a a presidential pardon (preposterous, but who cares?) and is let out of prison. After ten years of shoveling and smashing rocks in the hot sun there is only one thing on his mind, revenge. Revenge on Acombar, the man who framed him. Gary soon finds out that this same man is now the wealthiest land baron in the territory and is also sleeping with his wife. Gary purchases a rifle and (with what seems to be a never ending supply of bullets) sets out to extract his revenge on Acombar. But before Gary can get to him he must face 30 of Acombar's bodyguards during a conveinantly well timed tornado at night.


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Antonio Margheriti (better known as Anthony Dawson or Anthony S. Dawson) returns to his horror roots to direct this suspenseful revenge story.
The movie has some fabulous atmosphere. The character of Gary Hamilton is treated as a supernatural by the villains. Wind picks up whenever he appears, animals make strange noises when his name is uttered and his arrival is signified by a threatening Tornando. This all adds to the horror element of the movie (also the fact that a large portion of the film takes place at night).

It's a good little western with a few atypical twists. However it doesn't all go off without a hitch. There is a very nasty pacing problem during the 45 minute storm segment where Hamilton hunts down each and every one of the villain's gunmen. Hamilton does this by firing from windows then ducking before the return fire reaches him and by firing his rifle from holes on the ground when down in a tunnel system under the town's buildings.
This goes on for quite awhile. I'm sure you can agree with me when I say there is nothing more dull than some prick hiding behind a barrel and randomly picking off people every now and again. I Hate to see that in westerns.
It's alright if it's used once or twice but when several action scenes are devoted to it for long periods of time something is certainly wrong.


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In it's defense there are some really creative death scenes, an interesting use of a church bell as a weapon is of particular mention, however there is a severe lack of them overall. Too bad.
I also thought that the virtually non-existant tornado should have played a larger role in the film as opposed to making a few cameo appearences as a gust of wind every now and again (they had a nice dust devil effect in "Matalo!". Why not here?). Perhaps the twister could have taken out a few baddies? mmm? Just a thought.

The cast is a good one. Kinski stars as the anti-hero Hamilton. It's almost a sick joke casting Klaus Kinski as a hero. The famous actor played mostly villains throughout his entire career and I have yet to see him playing a good guy in a spaghetti western. I suppose he liked the role because he would usually snag a part where he was on set for as little time as possible for as much money as possible.

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Peter Carsten as the greedy Acombar does his job as a slimy no good and the pretty Marcella Michelangeli is unforgivable as Hamilton's cheating wife.

Composer Carlo Savina makes a good soundtrack here. I really like the title theme.

Despite it's faults And God Said To Cain is a welcome addition to any spaghetti western library and worth picking up.
Title: Re: And God Said to Cain (Antonio Margheriti, 1969)
Post by: LANZETTA on 07 Jul 2007 - 13:34
I only watched this once about a year ago so i can't really comment too much on the faults which Hunchback draws our attention to,but i do remember the movie having a great horror look and atmosphere,full of tension suspense and some great acting for a sw.
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Post by: kurug3n on 17 Apr 2008 - 23:53
Besides the pacing problems and not having a real stand off scene until the end (which is great ::)) I liked it so from me its a 7/10.
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Post by: zykl0nb on 18 Apr 2008 - 06:07
I couldn't really get into this one because of the pacing problem when I watched it recently.
Title: Re: And God Said to Cain (Antonio Margheriti, 1969)
Post by: paperbag on 25 Jul 2008 - 05:33
I don't think the pacing is bad at all, I was worried about how they were going to keep it interesting for an hour when Klaus Kinski arrives at the town 25 minutes into the movie.. but they did, surprisingly great.
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Post by: Gary B. on 18 Feb 2009 - 15:56
I finally watched this, and found virtually none of the faults with it as others have previously mentioned.  Definitely one of the best of all time spaghetti westerns in my book.  Superb and stylish direction from Margheriti as well as a great, unique soundtrack by Carlo Savina that really enhances the experience. 

The whole film had a dark, horror movie vibe to it, similar to Django il bastardo and I actually questioned a few times if Hamilton was actually a ghost myself!  Really, this was the most memorable SW I've seen in a LONG TIME...  I hope it gets released as a proper DVD eventually, as I've only seen the Franco Cleef version which, while great, still leaves some room for improvement as far as video quality.
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Post by: Ben Cobb on 18 Feb 2009 - 17:28
Totally agree Gary. I'm a big fan of this one too. Margheriti gives this SW and Vengeance a real Gothic twist.
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Post by: Gary B. on 18 Feb 2009 - 17:37
Totally agree Gary. I'm a big fan of this one too. Margheriti gives this SW and Vengeance a real Gothic twist.
Would love to see Vengeance in English...  The German DVD is all I've seen, and I love the theme song!
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Post by: Ben Cobb on 18 Feb 2009 - 18:15
The amazing Image disc is for sale at http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000055ZB1 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000055ZB1) but bit pricey
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Post by: paperbag on 19 Feb 2009 - 02:26
I got the x-rated dvd with english audio here http://www.hkflix.com/xq/asp/filmID.533526/qx/details.htm

Vengeance one of my all time favourites, And God Said to Cain follows closely behind it.
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Post by: Gary B. on 19 Feb 2009 - 02:41
I got the x-rated dvd with english audio here http://www.hkflix.com/xq/asp/filmID.533526/qx/details.htm

Vengeance one of my all time favourites, And God Said to Cain follows closely behind it.
thanks for that link, I may just have to buy this.  I only have the Simple Movie version that came with the Spaghetti-Heroes book and even though it says it has English audio, it doesn't!
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Post by: Canisius on 19 Feb 2009 - 21:23
Like this one, very good Spaghetti with a solid Kinski as hero and Peter Carsten (TKKG anyone?) :-\ as capitalistic villain, overall dark atmosphere, the end is a tad cheesy though...
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Post by: prospero on 20 Feb 2009 - 10:05
Definitely one of the best of all time spaghetti westerns in my book.  Superb and stylish direction from Margheriti. 
The whole film had a dark, horror movie vibe to it, similar to Django il bastardo I hope it gets released as a proper DVD eventually, as I've only seen the Franco Cleef version which, while great, still leaves some room for improvement as far as video quality.
totally agreed! It's one of my favourites, too! Basically, it's a gothic horror movie in a western setting - perhaps this is the reason some find it too slow. I didn't find the pacing problematic at all, to me it all seemed rather hypnotic, like a spiral. Margehriti did the gothic stuff so well, and I personally think this is one of his best movies. got the e-m-s DVD which is perfect, it even comes in a nice slipcase and is dead cheap (at least it was when I bought it).
Love the bell scene!
"Vengeance" is also on my list of favourites - guess I'm a Margheriti fan! Love the bizarre climax in the sulphur mine (or what was it exactly?)!
Got the film as a bonus on the x-rated dvd of Lenzi's "Gun for a hundred graves" (which I haven't watched as yet). image quality is fine, but no English language option if I'm not mistaken.
btw, does anyone have the "Franco Cleef Reconstruction" DVD of "And God said to Cain" (it was sold at xploited)? is it any different from the German disc?
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Post by: Ben Cobb on 20 Feb 2009 - 13:04
btw, does anyone have the "Franco Cleef Reconstruction" DVD of "And God said to Cain" (it was sold at xploited)? is it any different from the German disc?

Yes, I have the Franco Cleef reconstruction of AGSTC. But haven't seen the German disc so can't help I'm afraid. Would love this to get a legit English-language release.
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Post by: prospero on 20 Feb 2009 - 13:10
btw, does anyone have the "Franco Cleef Reconstruction" DVD of "And God said to Cain" (it was sold at xploited)? is it any different from the German disc?

Yes, I have the Franco Cleef reconstruction of AGSTC. But haven't seen the German disc so can't help I'm afraid. Would love this to get a legit English-language release.
what's the running time?
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Post by: Gary B. on 20 Feb 2009 - 15:12
The Franco Cleef version is 96 minutes.
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Post by: prospero on 20 Feb 2009 - 15:24
ok thanks. I'll check the e-m-s disc if it's different.
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Post by: Gary B. on 20 Feb 2009 - 15:32
In all probability, he used the German DVD as the source and converted it to NTSC (there is mild motion-blur).  Not sure, but the titles are in Italian, so perhaps he used multiple sources.
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Post by: prospero on 22 Feb 2009 - 13:27
you're probably right. the running time of the German dvd is also 96 mins.
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Post by: Garbage Can on 16 Jan 2011 - 20:53
I saw this via that 44-movie SW pack from Mill Creek. It was a full screen version that was obviously dubbed from a VHS. For a low-budget movie, I was surprised how much of an emotional investment I had in the characters. That said, the production values and the dark, full screen print took a lot out of my enjoyment of this. The Genesis quote was a good choice for an closer.
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Post by: Loukol on 18 Jun 2012 - 19:18
This is one of my favorite non-Leone Westerns.

I have the Cleef boot but recently discovered a better looking print at CG.
(Am I allowed to say that here?)

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Post by: Ben Cobb on 14 Jun 2013 - 07:53
Finally! http://www.wildeast.net/and-god-said-to-cain-twice-a-judas-p-207.html (http://www.wildeast.net/and-god-said-to-cain-twice-a-judas-p-207.html)
Title: Re: And God Said to Cain (Antonio Margheriti, 1969)
Post by: Luca Canali on 15 Jun 2013 - 11:46
Excellent. This may be the first Wild East that I'll actually pick up. I quite like Twice A Judas too, so it's perfect.
One question, presumably these Wild East double bills are just one single DVD9 disc and not 2 discs? Forgive the ignorance, I never usually go for double bills!
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Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 15 Jun 2013 - 12:12
Yeah, they are single discs.
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Post by: Collins on 01 Sep 2013 - 14:31
Wild East disc just came yesterday and its very decent. Cain is a very good film and its the first time ive seen Kinski as a sort of hero .
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Post by: Scyther on 03 Sep 2013 - 23:03
Mine arrived today; probably give it a watch later on tonight!
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Post by: Funktion on 03 May 2021 - 11:17
Arrow will release the film on Blu-Ray (UK and US) in July, as part of a boxset called Vengeance Trails: Four Classic Westerns.

The boxset includes:

-Massacre Time / Tempo di massacro (Lucio Fulci, 1966)
-My Name Is Pecos / Il mio nome รจ Pecos (Maurizio Lucidi, 1967)
-Bandidos (Massimo Dallamano, 1967)
-And God Said to Cain / E Dio disse a Caino... (Antonio Margheriti, 1969)

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