Euro Cult Movie Forum => Horror => Topic started by: MarcMorris on 10 Jan 2008 - 00:04

Title: Lady Frankenstein / La figlia di Frankenstein (Mel Welles, 1972)
Post by: MarcMorris on 10 Jan 2008 - 00:04
I read a while ago that the uncut version was coming to DVD - does anybody have any news?
Title: Re: Lady Frankenstein / La figlia di Frankenstein (Mel Welles, 1972)
Post by: CJ on 10 Jan 2008 - 01:57
I wish I did, as this is one movie I'd like to see wrenched from the public domain so that we can finally see a decent, uncut release. Maybe even remastered?
Title: Re: Lady Frankenstein / La figlia di Frankenstein (Mel Welles, 1972)
Post by: fdsmedia on 10 Jan 2008 - 08:00
Was it the special edition from German Anolis which was announced at the DVD Maniacs forum? Apparently the people behind the label asked the moderators to remove the thread because production was in such an early stage.
Title: Re: Lady Frankenstein / La figlia di Frankenstein (Mel Welles, 1972)
Post by: R-T-C Tim on 10 Jan 2008 - 19:44
I have read a few rumours about it, dating back a long time, but no positive news of yet.

I really hope to see it soon, the US print (which I watched through a fog of print damage) makes for a very interesting film, highly reminiscent of a later era Hammer production.
Title: Re: Lady Frankenstein / La figlia di Frankenstein (Mel Welles, 1972)
Post by: Richard C on 11 Jan 2008 - 08:40
I'd like to see an uncut print of this one too but haven't seen it mentioned anywhere that one is due soon.

Anyone spot the gaffe in this film involving one of the crew members? I noticed that it hadn't been picked up by IMBd so I posted the following:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067321/goofs (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067321/goofs)

Think I've got a copy somewhere at home and I'll try and post a pic if I remember....
Title: Re: Lady Frankenstein / La figlia di Frankenstein (Mel Welles, 1972)
Post by: Jonny on 09 Nov 2008 - 11:35
Just received a nice looking widescreen print, recorded from a German language satellite channel. I must confess to not having seen this one for a good few years and that was via a fullscreen print.

Anyone fancy trying to add an English track to this German version - which runs for 89 minutes according to my DVD player.

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(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f22/lovelockandload/Caps/LFrank3.jpg)

I've always liked this poster, the subtle hint that the monster has a massive cock is quality...

(http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/7720/ladyfrco5.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)



Title: Re: Lady Frankenstein / La figlia di Frankenstein (Mel Welles, 1972)
Post by: ecc on 09 Nov 2008 - 11:53
The US English language version is missing several scenes so it would not be a good source (even with subtitles to fill those gaps).  A longer English cut (from Swedish VHS, I think) was making the grey market rounds some time ago (the differences between the US and export versions are detailed in a VW back issue).  That would be the source to track down for a fandub.

Just received a nice looking widescreen print, recorded from a German language satellite channel. I must confess to not having seen this one for a good few years and that was via a fullscreen print.

Anyone fancy trying to add an English track to this German version - which runs for 89 minutes according to my DVD player.
Title: Re: Lady Frankenstein / La figlia di Frankenstein (Mel Welles, 1972)
Post by: Jonny on 09 Nov 2008 - 12:00
A longer English cut (from Swedish VHS, I think) was making the grey market rounds some time ago (the differences between the US and export versions are detailed in a VW back issue).  That would be the source to track down for a fandub.

Marc has a few versions, including the Swedish VHS...

Lady Frankenstein Mel Welles  1972 IT Embassy (USA) 83m44s
Lady Frankenstein Mel Welles  1972 IT Madacy (CAN) 83m33s
Lady Frankenstein Mel Welles  1972 IT Esselte (SWE) 94m04s
Lady Frankenstein (Spanish) Mel Welles 1972 IT Jade (SP)
Title: Re: Lady Frankenstein / La figlia di Frankenstein (Mel Welles, 1972)
Post by: ecc on 09 Nov 2008 - 12:24
The 83m cut is the most widely available and I think the Swedish tape is the only representation of that longer version.  Its amazing that the shorter version runs over eighty minutes since a lot of New World titles were cut to around 75 minutes for double billing (J. L. Merino's SCREAM OF THE DEMON LOVER lost about twenty minutes when New World put it out as a double bill with THE VELVET VAMPIRE).

If the Swedish version does indeed run 5 minutes longer, I'll have to check the German version against that article.

EDIT:

The article actually describes a 94m 40s composite of the Swedish tape and the Embassy US tape which apparently features some footage not in the Swedish release.  If that footage is dialogue-related then the US version is readily available for patching.
Title: Re: Lady Frankenstein / La figlia di Frankenstein (Mel Welles, 1972)
Post by: KommissarX on 09 Nov 2008 - 13:50
In case you didn't know the 3sat broadcast mentioned in this thread was accompanied by a 40 minutes documentary on the making of Lady Frankenstein. It featured Mel Welles, Herbert Fux and Rosalba Neri in onscreen interviews: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1086231/

It was nice to see Rosalba even if she didn't remember that much about the shoot (at least it was not some fake documentary à la "Rosalba Neri: The Italian Sphinx"). Fux had a blast watching the film for the first time in years and offered some funny anecdotes. I assume this documentary will pop up as a featurette on a future dvd release, maybe in an even longer form.
Title: Re: Lady Frankenstein / La figlia di Frankenstein (Mel Welles, 1972)
Post by: Mojo on 21 Nov 2008 - 19:23
A longer English cut (from Swedish VHS, I think) was making the grey market rounds some time ago (the differences between the US and export versions are detailed in a VW back issue).  That would be the source to track down for a fandub.

Marc has a few versions, including the Swedish VHS...

Lady Frankenstein Mel Welles  1972 IT Embassy (USA) 83m44s
Lady Frankenstein Mel Welles  1972 IT Madacy (CAN) 83m33s
Lady Frankenstein Mel Welles  1972 IT Esselte (SWE) 94m04s
Lady Frankenstein (Spanish) Mel Welles 1972 IT Jade (SP)


I've only ever seen the ( crappy quality ) 84m version of this, but would love to see the full edit ( a Shameless Fan Edition, maybe? ).
What's the additional footage on the 94m version?
Title: Re: Lady Frankenstein / La figlia di Frankenstein (Mel Welles, 1972)
Post by: MikeMalloy on 21 Nov 2008 - 22:30
I think Joseph Cotten gives the best "It's alive" delivery in Frankencinema history, saying it with complete cool (and exactly opposite from Colin Clive's screaming [which has its place too]).
Title: Re: Lady Frankenstein / La figlia di Frankenstein (Mel Welles, 1972)
Post by: MarcMorris on 22 Nov 2008 - 14:25
Sadly this film is with a certain Italian rights owner that always wants far too much for their titles.
Title: Re: Lady Frankenstein / La figlia di Frankenstein (Mel Welles, 1972)
Post by: Jonny on 21 Mar 2009 - 11:37
(http://www.kultvideo.com/img/prodotti/s1000i.jpg)

DVD coming April 7th from Sinister Film. Italian and English tracks with optional Italian subtitles.

La figlia di Frankenstein - DVD info (http://www.kultvideo.com/scheda.asp?item=20700&type=DVD)
Title: Re: Lady Frankenstein / La figlia di Frankenstein (Mel Welles, 1972)
Post by: bdc on 21 Mar 2009 - 12:41
As far I can tell it's a dvd of Cunha's Frankenstein's Daughter using Lady Frankenstein artwork...
Sinisterfilm's site confirms this.
Or did someone make a serious mistake?
Title: Re: Lady Frankenstein / La figlia di Frankenstein (Mel Welles, 1972)
Post by: Jonny on 21 Mar 2009 - 12:50
As far I can tell it's a dvd of Cunha's Frankenstein's Daughter using Lady Frankenstein artwork...
Sinisterfilm's site confirms this.
Or did someone make a serious mistake?

Well spotted!

Seems it's not just Kult Video that are confused because Videociak have it listed as well...

Videociak - link (http://www.videociak.net/customer/product.php?productid=22224&cat=&page=)

Conufusing?  :-*
Title: Re: Lady Frankenstein / La figlia di Frankenstein (Mel Welles, 1972)
Post by: Canisius on 21 Mar 2009 - 16:16
Fux had a blast watching the film for the first time in years and offered some funny anecdotes

Yeah, seen this, too...he seemed to be such a friendly and mellow individual, R.I.P. Herbert! ;)
Title: Re: Lady Frankenstein / La figlia di Frankenstein (Mel Welles, 1972)
Post by: fdsmedia on 21 Mar 2009 - 23:26
Yes it's definitely not the Welles film... unfortunately...
Title: Re: Lady Frankenstein / La figlia di Frankenstein (Mel Welles, 1972)
Post by: babybreese on 23 Mar 2009 - 12:54
That link has the cast and credits for the 1958 film but also lists it as color, so there is inconsistancy in the listing itself.
Seems hard to imagine it's the Rosalba Neri / Mel Welles flick at this point.

In regards to the full length version, ZDD put together a ratty comp that mixes the footage from the German TV print, some from the Swedish VHS and a few bits from the New World Corman edit that came out on Embasy.  They 16 x 9 the full screen inserts which squashes them and the image is bad on these brief sections, but it does seem to cobble together the 'director's cut '.
Corman kept all the nudity and gore intact but pruned reems of expository footage ( and character motivation ) and it the process made Welles vision seems choppy and semi incoherent.
The uncut version is a far better film, hands down.
Title: Re: Lady Frankenstein / La figlia di Frankenstein (Mel Welles, 1972)
Post by: loops on 27 Mar 2009 - 12:04
This film was classified by the bbfc a few years ago:

BBFC info (http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classified.nsf/0/AA9E7B59F045CFCC802570BC002100DD?OpenDocument)

Never seen it in the shops.
Title: Re: Lady Frankenstein / La figlia di Frankenstein (Mel Welles, 1972)
Post by: fdsmedia on 17 Aug 2009 - 20:04
It seems like the Anolis special edition release might be imminent...  ;)
Title: Re: Lady Frankenstein / La figlia di Frankenstein (Mel Welles, 1972)
Post by: Stephen Grimes on 17 Aug 2009 - 20:18
It seems like the Anolis special edition release might be imminent...  ;)
Great news,if it's anything like their SE of HUNCHBACK then we're in for a real treat.

Just got sent a lbx Italian tv version which was a bit of letdown with the second half looking like it had been taken from a bad ntsc source.
Title: Re: Lady Frankenstein / La figlia di Frankenstein (Mel Welles, 1972)
Post by: bdc on 17 Aug 2009 - 20:53
Nice one!
I guess that will be the version that aired on German tv?
I noticed a (great sounding) English track was also prepared for that one.
Bits of it pop up in the docu that was also broadcast.
Title: Re: Lady Frankenstein / La figlia di Frankenstein (Mel Welles, 1972)
Post by: fdsmedia on 17 Aug 2009 - 20:57
I think their release will have 3 different versions of the film.
Title: Re: Lady Frankenstein / La figlia di Frankenstein (Mel Welles, 1972)
Post by: g053584398 on 25 Aug 2009 - 22:16
I am just about gagging for an uncut anamorphic DVD of this one.  Rosalba...
Title: Re: Lady Frankenstein / La figlia di Frankenstein (Mel Welles, 1972)
Post by: ecc on 02 Apr 2011 - 11:33
Finally getting the official treatment from Shout Factory (hopefully it will be the uncut version): Cliff MacMillan's reply on the Home Theater Forum (http://www.hometheaterforum.com/forum/thread/305588/shout-factory-s-2011-dvd-line-up-tentative/420#post_3796186)
Title: Re: Lady Frankenstein / La figlia di Frankenstein (Mel Welles, 1972)
Post by: CJ on 02 Apr 2011 - 12:29
Nice. Think I'll be snapping this up when it hits retailers. Any news on whether it will be completely uncut?
Title: Re: Lady Frankenstein / La figlia di Frankenstein (Mel Welles, 1972)
Post by: ecc on 02 Apr 2011 - 13:09
Nice. Think I'll be snapping this up when it hits retailers. Any news on whether it will be completely uncut?

I sent Cliff a message on Facebook.  I'll let you know.
Title: Re: Lady Frankenstein / La figlia di Frankenstein (Mel Welles, 1972)
Post by: CJ on 02 Apr 2011 - 13:42
Thanks for that. Hopefully it will be a fully restored version we see released.
Title: Re: Lady Frankenstein / La figlia di Frankenstein (Mel Welles, 1972)
Post by: bdc on 02 Apr 2011 - 15:18
Great news.
I hope this will be at least as complete as the German tv version...or should we maybe just expect the US version?
Title: Re: Lady Frankenstein / La figlia di Frankenstein (Mel Welles, 1972)
Post by: gnorthcott on 02 Apr 2011 - 20:59
About time,i too hope for a restored release.theres been some cool dvd news this year
Title: Re: Lady Frankenstein / La figlia di Frankenstein (Mel Welles, 1972)
Post by: BodyElectric on 04 Apr 2011 - 01:10
Given that Lady Frankenstein is going to be part of a quadruple feature, it would seem unlikely that it would be a restored version. Still, a decent print would be nice.
Title: Re: Lady Frankenstein / La figlia di Frankenstein (Mel Welles, 1972)
Post by: R-T-C Tim on 04 Apr 2011 - 08:08
Well since they are promoting it as 'Lady Frankenstein' it will doubtless be Corman's re-edited US version (since those are the films that Shout Factory have the rights to). I don't know if the original Italian print was even dubbed into English and it seems unlikely they will go to the trouble of subbing a full print even if they could get one, just for a four-pack release.

On the plus side, the fact it is being mentioned at all suggests it will probably be in a better condition than the PD releases we are used to, even with the missing fifteen minutes the film is still good fun and I would certainly pick up a proper release.
Title: Re: Lady Frankenstein / La figlia di Frankenstein (Mel Welles, 1972)
Post by: ecc on 04 Apr 2011 - 08:37
Well since they are promoting it as 'Lady Frankenstein' it will doubtless be Corman's re-edited US version (since those are the films that Shout Factory have the rights to). I don't know if the original Italian print was even dubbed into English and it seems unlikely they will go to the trouble of subbing a full print even if they could get one, just for a four-pack release.

On the plus side, the fact it is being mentioned at all suggests it will probably be in a better condition than the PD releases we are used to, even with the missing fifteen minutes the film is still good fun and I would certainly pick up a proper release.

The full version was indeed dubbed.  It was only available in dubs of the Swedish VHS release (I think there was a fandub of the German broadcast using this tape as the audio source).  You might have to look back a couple pages in this thread
Title: Re: Lady Frankenstein / La figlia di Frankenstein (Mel Welles, 1972)
Post by: gnorthcott on 04 Apr 2011 - 15:42
I didnt know it was part of a quadruple feature but it will still be nice to have an official release
Title: Re: Lady Frankenstein / La figlia di Frankenstein (Mel Welles, 1972)
Post by: the blob on 07 Apr 2011 - 18:59
I've never actually seen the full cut, only the one that does the PD rounds and it's still an enjoyable film so I'll be grabbing this anyway. I imagine it'll be at least a half decent print.
Title: Re: Lady Frankenstein / La figlia di Frankenstein (Mel Welles, 1972)
Post by: bdc on 08 Apr 2011 - 14:51
Seems Corman will be contacted to check if he has more footage stashed that wasn't in the US version.
Let's hope he has!  :D
Title: Re: Lady Frankenstein / La figlia di Frankenstein (Mel Welles, 1972)
Post by: MarcMorris on 12 Sep 2016 - 14:22
Does anybody have the DVD DRive-In release?
Title: Re: Lady Frankenstein / La figlia di Frankenstein (Mel Welles, 1972)
Post by: MarcMorris on 13 Sep 2016 - 17:22
Does anybody have a copy of this Lady Frankenstein documentary, from German TV?

"Kinomagazin" Die Wahrheit über Lady Frankenstein (2007)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1086231/combined (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1086231/combined)
Title: Re: Lady Frankenstein / La figlia di Frankenstein (Mel Welles, 1972)
Post by: babybreese on 14 Sep 2016 - 14:13
I have it but only as an avi I downloaded somewhere, and I believe the audio slips off sync as it progresses.

Someone's got to have a better copy but I could upload mine for you to download if needed.
Title: Re: Lady Frankenstein / La figlia di Frankenstein (Mel Welles, 1972)
Post by: babybreese on 17 Oct 2016 - 19:23
Wonderful news coming from Nucleus, amazing news  ;)

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