Euro Cult Movie Forum => Horror => Topic started by: Stephen Grimes on 02 Mar 2008 - 17:57

Title: La notte dei dannati / Night of the Damned (Filippo Walter Ratti ,1971)
Post by: Stephen Grimes on 02 Mar 2008 - 17:57
aka Il castello dei Saint Lambert
Anyone seen the English version of this superb Italian gothic horror set in France?

(http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/7144/8182zj2.jpg)
Title: Re: La notte dei dannati/Night of the Damned (Filippo Walter Ratti ,1971)
Post by: MarcMorris on 02 Mar 2008 - 22:42
Is there an English version available anywhere? I have the Italian release.

Perhaps a fan DVD of his I vizi morbosi di una governante should be the next Lovelockandload disc ;)
Title: Re: La notte dei dannati/Night of the Damned (Filippo Walter Ratti ,1971)
Post by: ecc on 02 Mar 2008 - 22:52
I've never heard of an English version either.  The Carlo Savina main title song comes from Armando de Ossorio's MALENKA.

Is there an upcoming DVD of VIZI MORBOSI?  I believe the subtitled UK tape is cut.  I have an Italian unsubbed version somewhere but I don't recall the quality.
Title: Re: La notte dei dannati/Night of the Damned (Filippo Walter Ratti ,1971)
Post by: Stephen Grimes on 03 Mar 2008 - 08:47
Johan saw something about it being on a Butchers Film double-bill in the UK alongside SOMETHING CREEPING IN THE DARK.I'd be very surprised if it was a subtitled print.
Title: Re: La notte dei dannati/Night of the Damned (Filippo Walter Ratti ,1971)
Post by: Jonny on 03 Mar 2008 - 08:50
'Night of the Damned' original BBFC info mentions about it being cut to gain an 'X' cert back in 1972 but doesn't say anything about it being subtitled or dubbed.

BBFC info (http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classified.nsf/0/6C5671E84DE50738802566C800357B09?OpenDocument)
Title: Re: La notte dei dannati/Night of the Damned (Filippo Walter Ratti ,1971)
Post by: ecc on 03 Mar 2008 - 09:17
These films usually turn up somewhere dubbed but then again there are a couple that were dubbed that have never been seen that way since (ANGEL FOR SATAN, THE UNNATURALS, possibly DONNA DEL LAGO under the title THE POSSESSED).
Title: Re: La notte dei dannati/Night of the Damned (Filippo Walter Ratti ,1971)
Post by: Stephen Grimes on 03 Mar 2008 - 10:22
These films usually turn up somewhere dubbed but then again there are a couple that were dubbed that have never been seen that way since (ANGEL FOR SATAN, THE UNNATURALS, possibly DONNA DEL LAGO under the title THE POSSESSED).
Movietime has ANGEL FOR SATAN in their catalogue in Italian,English and French,they also have Margheriti's CONTRONATURA in English as well(someone please release this ;)).Surf Film have LA DONNA DEL LAGO also in English so there may be hope though i'm more than happy with Jonny's subbed version.
Title: Re: La notte dei dannati/Night of the Damned (Filippo Walter Ratti ,1971)
Post by: Johan Melle on 03 Mar 2008 - 11:23
Summing up a bit of what we know about LA NOTTE DEI DANNATI, the distribution rights are owned by Movietime but they only list an Italian version: http://www.movie-time.it/show_movie.php?id=509

But as mentioned, the film did play theatrically in a censored version in the UK as THE NIGHT OF THE DAMNED, and although it hasn't been confirmed it is very likely that this was an English-dubbed version. However, the English version doesn't appear to have surfaced on VHS anywhere. There's an Italian VHS release, and Midnight Video offers a French version that is longer than the Italian cut but still no English.

There's also a photo novel version published in an issue of Bigfilm. Here are a couple of scans that I posted in the cineromanzo thread earlier:


(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/9346/bigfilmcoverhc1.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/554/bigfilmscan1rw9.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/81/bigfilmscan2uc2.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/5871/bigfilmscan3ym6.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/2569/bigfilmscan4fr6.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)


I don't know if some scenes in the photo novel differ from the actual film.

But here's something interesting. European Trash Cinema are offering this film under the title THE NIGHTS OF SEX: http://eurotrashcinema.com/catalogue-new/Genre-OtherPage77.html
It doesn't specify what language it's in but they usually state "in Italian only" if that's the case. That's still no guarantee, though, as I once ordered a copy of TOUCH ME NOT, which turned out to be dubbed in German even though that wasn't advertised on the site. Still, I'm interested in finding out more about the ETC version.
Title: Re: La notte dei dannati/Night of the Damned (Filippo Walter Ratti ,1971)
Post by: Ben Cobb on 03 Mar 2008 - 11:50
These films usually turn up somewhere dubbed but then again there are a couple that were dubbed that have never been seen that way since (ANGEL FOR SATAN, THE UNNATURALS, possibly DONNA DEL LAGO under the title THE POSSESSED).
Movietime has ANGEL FOR SATAN in their catalogue in Italian,English and French,they also have Margheriti's CONTRONATURA in English as well(someone please release this ;)).Surf Film have LA DONNA DEL LAGO also in English so there may be hope though i'm more than happy with Jonny's subbed version.

Yes, I'd love to see Contronatura released in English on DVD. I have a geat looking widescreen tape but it's in Italian.

Back on topic... Great scans Johan.
Title: Re: La notte dei dannati/Night of the Damned (Filippo Walter Ratti ,1971)
Post by: Stephen Grimes on 03 Mar 2008 - 14:34
Speaking of rarities,Leopoldo Savona's gothic horror from 1972 BYLETH IL DEMONE DELL'INCESTO is coming to dvd on the X-Rated label.A post a Gente says it will contain the Italian and German dubs plus English subtitles,release date April 1st(really hope this isn't an April fools joke).



Title: Re: La notte dei dannati/Night of the Damned (Filippo Walter Ratti ,1971)
Post by: Johan Melle on 03 Mar 2008 - 14:42
Wow! That's some of the most exciting news I've heard in ages! I've been really dying to see this rare film! Cool!  ::)

Too bad there isn't an English dub included as I believe one does exist but considering how rare the film is, I am more than satisfied with seeing it subtitled!
Title: Re: La notte dei dannati/Night of the Damned (Filippo Walter Ratti ,1971)
Post by: Stephen Grimes on 03 Mar 2008 - 14:56
Here's the thread about it from DVD-Forum.at which includes pictures of the covers etc though you have to be a member to view.

http://forum.dvd-forum.at/showthread.php?p=1026700 (http://forum.dvd-forum.at/showthread.php?p=1026700)
Title: Re: La notte dei dannati/Night of the Damned (Filippo Walter Ratti ,1971)
Post by: MarcMorris on 03 Mar 2008 - 16:29
The rights owner has only the Italian version of La notte dei dannati

It's entirely possible that an English version does exist, but it's unlikely it will ever show up.
Title: Re: La notte dei dannati/Night of the Damned (Filippo Walter Ratti ,1971)
Post by: Rogerio Ferraz on 04 Mar 2008 - 01:06
Fantastic news!!! Thanks a lot for the heads-up, Stephen!

It's interesting to note that the x-rated DVD cover art is from the Byleth locandina, which was later used for the
Sesso della Strega one!!! The french poster art is like an "unclothed version" variation from the original one! :-*

(http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/7679/bylethdvdjl6.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
(http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/1675/sessojt3.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
(http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/7762/bylethfrenchmp1.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
Title: Re: La notte dei dannati/Night of the Damned (Filippo Walter Ratti ,1971)
Post by: JoseADiego on 04 Mar 2008 - 10:50


Wow!!!!!  Johan and Rogerio beautiful posters and Bigfilm   ;)

I have two versions

*1h,23m (cut)

*1h,35m,25s (uncut)


Captures


(http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/7834/lanottedannating2.jpg)


(http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/8052/lanottedannati2ad5.jpg)


(http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/1038/lanottedannati3ub9.jpg)


(http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/2527/lanottedannati4eb7.jpg)


(http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/5479/lanottedannati5hu1.jpg)



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Title: Re: La notte dei dannati/Night of the Damned (Filippo Walter Ratti ,1971)
Post by: Inspector Tanzi on 04 Mar 2008 - 10:59


(http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/2527/lanottedannati4eb7.jpg)


this pic made me laugh for some reason :-\
Title: Re: La notte dei dannati/Night of the Damned (Filippo Walter Ratti ,1971)
Post by: Johan Melle on 14 Mar 2008 - 17:12
I e-mailed Craig about the version listed at European Trash Cinema to check if it actually is the English version. Unfortunately, it turns out it's the French version but he had forgotten to include that info in the listing. A real pity but I guess it was too good to be true...
Title: Re: La notte dei dannati/Night of the Damned (Filippo Walter Ratti ,1971)
Post by: Johan Melle on 17 Mar 2008 - 17:23
Btw, has anybody noticed that IMDb also lists another Filippo Walter Ratti film called I PREDATORI SI MUOVONO ALL'ALBA (1972) that stars Sylva Koscina, Lou Castel, Barbara Bach, Giacomo Rossi Stuart and Gianni Garko?

With such a fantastic cast, this one sounds really, really interesting but does this film actually exist? I can't find a single Italian movie database that verifies its existance. Is this an unfinished or unreleased film? Or is this simply a case of some idiot having fun by getting a fake movie listed on the IMDb?!?
Title: Re: La notte dei dannati / Night of the Damned (Filippo Walter Ratti ,1971)
Post by: Stephen Grimes on 25 Jul 2008 - 15:54
Clip from the Rete 4 broadcast which looks like it might be from the same master as the Shendene tape,bit of a long shot but does anyone have a copy of this tv showing?

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=mQC9D3-3BQU (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=mQC9D3-3BQU)
Title: Re: La notte dei dannati / Night of the Damned (Filippo Walter Ratti ,1971)
Post by: Johan Melle on 19 Aug 2008 - 15:52
I just looked at the credits for this film as listed on its BFI page: http://ftvdb.bfi.org.uk/sift/title/298607?view=credit

Notice the credit of "additional dialogue" for English dubbing veteran Ted Rusoff. I think that proves once and for all that this film was dubbed into English. I just wonder what the hell happened to this dub and why the English version hasn't had a single video release!
Title: Re: La notte dei dannati / Night of the Damned (Filippo Walter Ratti ,1971)
Post by: ecc on 19 Aug 2008 - 20:49
Movietime owns the English version (along with the unreleased - on video - English versions of ANGEL FOR SATAN and CONTRANATURA).
Title: Re: La notte dei dannati / Night of the Damned (Filippo Walter Ratti ,1971)
Post by: Johan Melle on 19 Aug 2008 - 21:25
Movietime owns the English version (along with the unreleased - on video - English versions of ANGEL FOR SATAN and CONTRANATURA).

Really? Are you sure about that? On their website they only list the Italian version...
Title: Re: La notte dei dannati / Night of the Damned (Filippo Walter Ratti ,1971)
Post by: ecc on 19 Aug 2008 - 21:52
You're right.  Its been a while since I looked at that list.
Title: Re: La notte dei dannati / Night of the Damned (Filippo Walter Ratti ,1971)
Post by: MarcMorris on 19 Aug 2008 - 22:46
Movietime are impossible to deal with. Take it from me!
Title: Re: La notte dei dannati / Night of the Damned (Filippo Walter Ratti ,1971)
Post by: ecc on 19 Aug 2008 - 22:54
So I've heard (from a couple sources).
Title: Re: La notte dei dannati / Night of the Damned (Filippo Walter Ratti ,1971)
Post by: DjangoLi on 20 Aug 2008 - 17:33
The Rete4 broadcast does look the same as the Shendene tape. I watched it a few months ago.

Title: Re: La notte dei dannati / Night of the Damned (Filippo Walter Ratti ,1971)
Post by: DjangoLi on 30 Sep 2008 - 07:39
http://rapidshare.com/files/149598085/La.Notte.Dei.Danatti.1971.VHSRip.XViD-AnF.rar.html

English subtitles for the Shendene tape...

 ;D
Title: Re: La notte dei dannati / Night of the Damned (Filippo Walter Ratti ,1971)
Post by: Ben Cobb on 30 Sep 2008 - 13:34
Movietime owns the English version (along with the unreleased - on video - English versions of ANGEL FOR SATAN and CONTRANATURA).

Do you mean Margheriti's Contronatura? Would love to see an English version of that some day... I have a widescreen Italian tape - beautiful-looking film.
Title: Re: La notte dei dannati / Night of the Damned (Filippo Walter Ratti ,1971)
Post by: bronxwarriors1990 on 30 Sep 2008 - 13:49

Do you mean Margheriti's Contronatura? Would love to see an English version of that some day... I have a widescreen Italian tape - beautiful-looking film.


Does Contronatura star Dominique Boschero? I was contemplating getting the VHS tape from Kult Video.
Title: Re: La notte dei dannati / Night of the Damned (Filippo Walter Ratti ,1971)
Post by: ecc on 02 Oct 2008 - 18:54
I added your subs to my DVDR copy (likely from the Shendene tape) and synched it up with the first lines of dialogue as mine begins earlier than your source (mine starts with the credits, I'm guessing you've got some logos or something before then). 

The sync seems uneven on my copy at least.  Part of that seems to be the Italian dubbing of French actors (especially Brice, who has not aged well since MILL OF STONE WOMEN) and his Italian girlfriend but just when I think the audio is slightly out of sync, it syncs back up dialogue-wise so I think its the fault of the original synchronisation.  When Brice aps the skull twice early on, that effect is out of sync but the dialogue around it seems to be okay.  Same with the subs, some seem to come up a little early but then the next line will be perfectly synchronized with the dialogue so I'm guessing you timed some a few milliseconds earlier so there would be time to read them?

Title: Re: La notte dei dannati / Night of the Damned (Filippo Walter Ratti ,1971)
Post by: DjangoLi on 03 Oct 2008 - 09:00
Hi there,

Can't say I noticed any of the defects you are talking about? Seems like your copy is speeding up/slowing down. Perhaps a bad conversion of some sort?

I'm off to the post office now to send some discs out... If I'd seen this earlier I could've sent you a copy now as well.


My copy (from the Shendene VHS) does have ALL of the logos/copyright warning at the beginning. - this explains why the subs don't synchronise properly to begin with.

If you don't mind waiting - it will be shared in the usual place quite soon. Alternatively, pm an address and I'll get a copy to you.



Title: Re: La notte dei dannati / Night of the Damned (Filippo Walter Ratti ,1971)
Post by: Filmfan on 18 Oct 2008 - 13:46
Hi,

Can you tell me where I can get hold of a version of this film with English subtitles?

Thanks
Title: Re: La notte dei dannati / Night of the Damned (Filippo Walter Ratti ,1971)
Post by: Jonny on 18 Oct 2008 - 13:51
Hi,

Can you tell me where I can get hold of a version of this film with English subtitles?

Thanks

If you have a copy of the Italian VHS you can add the subs yourself quite easily...

http://rapidshare.com/files/149598085/La.Notte.Dei.Danatti.1971.VHSRip.XViD-AnF.rar.html

English subtitles for the Shendene tape...

Title: Re: La notte dei dannati / Night of the Damned (Filippo Walter Ratti ,1971)
Post by: Filmfan on 26 Oct 2008 - 07:40

Hi,

Regarding the subtitles available - can someone let me know which running time of the film this          syncs up to.

Thanks
Title: Re: La notte dei dannati / Night of the Damned (Filippo Walter Ratti ,1971)
Post by: Johan Melle on 31 Oct 2008 - 19:27
From what I gather, the subs match the Italian Shendene tape, which is shorter than the French version, which I believe has more nudity.
Title: Re: La notte dei dannati / Night of the Damned (Filippo Walter Ratti ,1971)
Post by: DjangoLi on 03 Nov 2008 - 13:26
http://www.kultvideo.com/scheda.asp?item=17212&type=VHS&key=1&hsa=

I just stumbled across this now whilst looking for info on another film (Night of the Devils) - Has anyone seen this h/c version from France?
Title: Re: La notte dei dannati / Night of the Damned (Filippo Walter Ratti ,1971)
Post by: ottorivers on 11 Nov 2008 - 14:30
I doubt that it is the true running time, I found the tape at 7€ (4.5$) so I'll probably buy it to be sure, but American Video has never realeased any hardcore film and someone on a french site said it's around 80 min only. It may be some alternate nude takes though. The problem is that many sites list the running time according to what's on the box wich is rarely correct. Most of the time it says 90 min approx, wich means from 80 to 100 min. Plus as the NTSC and PAL tapes speeds are different it also makes things difficult. I'll keep you informed as soon as I receive the tape.
Title: Re: La notte dei dannati / Night of the Damned (Filippo Walter Ratti ,1971)
Post by: JoseADiego on 17 Nov 2008 - 12:52


Just got French version and it doesn't includes hardocore inserts... can't expling myself why they put that... My French contact told me it's totally false, but I want to be prudent and hope people from Kult Video can explain this matter... The version they sent me runs 73 min and they say theirs runs 100?¿¿?¿....

Here is the VHS for 7 euros

http://www.priceminister.com/nav/Video_VHS/kw/Nuit+des+damn%E9s

Regards

Jose



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Title: Re: La notte dei dannati / Night of the Damned (Filippo Walter Ratti ,1971)
Post by: ottorivers on 18 Nov 2008 - 21:34
Yep, that's the one Jose, but the guy still hav'nt answer to my question. So if you confrm that it's no use to buy it I will not. Cinema de bizarre is about to add to it's catalogue a beautiful 2 discs DVD edition of 95 min from an Italian print, I don't if it'll have eng subs though.It will be on the site in a few days, something worth a look. (http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc350/kingarno/NIGHTOFTHESEXUALDEMONSSPECIALEDITIO.jpg)
Title: Re: La notte dei dannati / Night of the Damned (Filippo Walter Ratti ,1971)
Post by: JoseADiego on 20 Nov 2008 - 11:52

If it is this page then the copy they're selling is the one I sent them...

http://www.cinema-de-bizarre.com/index.html


It's a very rare version and I think it is uncut




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Title: Re: La notte dei dannati / Night of the Damned (Filippo Walter Ratti ,1971)
Post by: ottorivers on 20 Nov 2008 - 22:27
I think we'll never find better then your version, if the french tape was the last hope. So thanks for bringing this one up. It's always hard when a long search come to an end. But there's so many good unseen movie's version outhere to find...and


Is it really the end of this one?
Title: Re: La notte dei dannati / Night of the Damned (Filippo Walter Ratti ,1971)
Post by: unclefred on 18 May 2009 - 17:41
Thank You JoseADiego, I enjoyed the film very much. I really appreciate those subs! Mi Italian is quite poor but I enjoy hearing the lingo much more than the usual poor dubbing we often get.  :P
Title: Re: La notte dei dannati / Night of the Damned (Filippo Walter Ratti ,1971)
Post by: Stephen Grimes on 07 Jan 2011 - 12:09
Just got French version and it doesn't includes hardocore inserts... can't expling myself why they put that... My French contact told me it's totally false, but I want to be prudent and hope people from Kult Video can explain this matter... The version they sent me runs 73 min
Exactly the same runtime as the old Italian 8mm print i was sent recently.
Title: Re: La notte dei dannati / Night of the Damned (Filippo Walter Ratti ,1971)
Post by: RLaymon on 02 May 2011 - 02:08
Hi board. Next weekend I'll dig out the Finnish tape under the title FEMALE VAMPIRE (I think), was given to me years ago by tape trader Jan Borgellin along with the Finnish tape of Grau's BLOOD CEREMONY. Both seem pretty hard to find and have no idea/memory of running times. I'l post some pics of them too, along with a photo of this beyond-obscure release of GRAVEYARD OF HORROR I purchased long ago from much beloved, much expensive Video Oyster in NYC (think the label was EE or something and it came in one of those old big box covers and advertised on the back were several other European horrors like NIGHT OF THE BLOOD MONSTER, the cover has to be seen to be believed).
Title: Re: La notte dei dannati / Night of the Damned (Filippo Walter Ratti ,1971)
Post by: gnorthcott on 02 May 2011 - 10:37
please post some pics,would love to see the covers
Title: Re: La notte dei dannati / Night of the Damned (Filippo Walter Ratti ,1971)
Post by: RLaymon on 08 May 2011 - 06:15
Hey there. I tried to insert an image here and all it does is add to the body of the message text stating "[img][img]", there was no option to browse my pc whatsoever. Any idea? The scan is 1.23MB (not sure what the suggested limit is).

For the record,  and sorry for the mix up here (I haven't dug this is up in a dog's age), the tape I was given was actually (IIRC) a Belgian release on the Eagle Video Productions label, copyright 1986. Still, have never seen this particular release greymarketed anywhere before and so it might be of interest here. So, need help here uploading this pic...... just wait till you get a load of that GRAVEYARD OF HORROR big box cover art, just breathless.... Thanks for any help!
Title: Re: La notte dei dannati / Night of the Damned (Filippo Walter Ratti ,1971)
Post by: bdc on 08 May 2011 - 07:39
You have to host the image somewhere (like imageshack),then copy the direct link and paste it inbetween the [img] tags.  :D
Title: Re: La notte dei dannati / Night of the Damned (Filippo Walter Ratti ,1971)
Post by: RLaymon on 09 May 2011 - 00:47
Ah, thanks man. Ok, hope this translates well then. I'll update the threads for BLOOD CEREMONY and GRAVEYARD OF HORROR now. Thanks again!

(http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/250/scan0001ye.jpg)
Title: Re: La notte dei dannati / Night of the Damned (Filippo Walter Ratti ,1971)
Post by: ecc on 09 May 2011 - 01:27
Ah, thanks man. Ok, hope this translates well then. I'll update the threads for BLOOD CEREMONY and GRAVEYARD OF HORROR now. Thanks again!
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/28/scan0001ye.jpg/ (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/28/scan0001ye.jpg/)

paste the image url - the direct link, not the one above - in between the (http://) and it the image will actually show up in the post, rather than a link.

Title: Re: La notte dei dannati / Night of the Damned (Filippo Walter Ratti ,1971)
Post by: Pluto on 13 Aug 2011 - 00:09
I just got an uncut version of this title from Cinema De Bizzare & while it has an English subtitle track, it's missing huge hunks of them throughout. Is there another subtitle track, or complete version in Italian or French with a complete subtitle track? If so, where can I find either of them?

Thanks,

Pluto
Title: Re: La notte dei dannati / Night of the Damned (Filippo Walter Ratti ,1971)
Post by: drbutcherm on 21 Jan 2015 - 16:59
I have the foreign language version with English subtitles, pretty nice print on dvd-r.  mariobavafan@yahoo.com