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Author Topic: Gangsters '70 (Mino Guerrini, 1968)  (Read 10890 times)

Johan Melle

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Re: Gangsters '70 (Mino Guerrini, 1968)
« Reply #15 on: 09 Oct 2008 - 15:34 »

Interesting comparison, Stephen! Much appreciated.

It take it there's no Linda Sini in your Italian version either then?

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Re: Gangsters '70 (Mino Guerrini, 1968)
« Reply #16 on: 09 Oct 2008 - 17:51 »

It take it there's no Linda Sini in your Italian version either then?
Not that i could see mate,thought she might have been Corazzari's sister but realised i was wrong after having another look at her in DON'T TORTURE A DUCKLING and OPERAZIONE KAPPA.
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Re: Gangsters '70 (Mino Guerrini, 1968)
« Reply #17 on: 19 Dec 2008 - 11:51 »

Some grabs from the Italian language version - cheers to Stephen for the copy!.

How does this compare to the quality of the German DVD?



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Re: Gangsters '70 (Mino Guerrini, 1968)
« Reply #18 on: 22 Dec 2008 - 23:01 »

Screenshots from the German DVD for comparison:





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Re: Gangsters '70 (Mino Guerrini, 1968)
« Reply #19 on: 23 Dec 2008 - 09:25 »

Cheers for the screenshots Johan. The German disc looks great, will definitely pick up a copy now.
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Re: Gangsters '70 (Mino Guerrini, 1968)
« Reply #20 on: 19 Jun 2013 - 21:41 »


This beauty arrived today  ::)


Not yet compared it against the other prints for differences but the running time is:
1:41:19 (NTSC)


Will update if there's any additional footage not in the other prints.


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Re: Gangsters '70 (Mino Guerrini, 1968)
« Reply #21 on: 19 Jun 2013 - 21:51 »

Sweet! Good score mate!
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Re: Gangsters '70 (Mino Guerrini, 1968)
« Reply #22 on: 24 Jun 2013 - 11:34 »

Screenshots from the German DVD for comparison:
Is it possible to have a screenshot of the title Johan?
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Re: Gangsters '70 (Mino Guerrini, 1968)
« Reply #23 on: 01 Jul 2013 - 01:04 »

Screenshots from the German DVD for comparison:
Is it possible to have a screenshot of the title Johan?

Of course! Here you go!

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Re: Gangsters '70 (Mino Guerrini, 1968)
« Reply #24 on: 02 Jul 2013 - 11:03 »

Thank you Johan!
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Re: Gangsters '70 (Mino Guerrini, 1968)
« Reply #25 on: 28 Jul 2013 - 17:04 »

For anyone interested I compared 3 prints of the film today and although the German DVD is much shorter than the Italian TV master, it's surprisingly more complete in terms of violent footage.


MAJOR SPOILERS AHEAD!!!!


Stephen did a brief comparison on the previous page, so I'll try not to repeat those differences here.
Here are some additional differences:




The beating of Giampiero Albertini's character 'Sempresi'


CANADIAN UVI:
Uncut. Goes on for a long time in slo-mo with multiple blows shown.


ITALIAN TV MASTER:
Cut. Shows a few blows and then cuts.


GERMAN CAROL MEDIA DVD:
Cut. Almost the entire beating is missing.








Acid poured over Franco Ressel's character 'The Traveller'



CANADIAN UVI:
Uncut. Although because it's a full screen print, burning to Ressel's face is more or less offscreen.


ITALIAN TV MASTER:
Cut. This scene has been completely removed.


GERMAN CAROL MEDIA DVD:
Uncut.






Sempresi attacks Bruno Corazzari's henchman with shears



CANADIAN UVI:
Uncut. Sempresi hits the henchman over the head with shears and then stabs him twice with the pointed end.


ITALIAN TV MASTER:
Cut. We see the blow to the back of the head but not the stabbing.


GERMAN CAROL MEDIA DVD:
Cut. We see the blow to the back of the head but not the stabbing.








Bruno Corazzari head shot



CANADIAN UVI:
Uncut.


ITALIAN TV MASTER:
Completely removed. We hear a shot but don't see Corazzari struck.


GERMAN CAROL MEDIA DVD:
Cut? We see the head shot but it seems marginally shorter than the Canadian tape.






End of film



CANADIAN UVI:
The sharpshooter's body is discovered by some guards patrolling the area. There is some dialogue, the guards leave and then the film ends.


ITALIAN TV MASTER:
Cut. We see the guards arrive but their most of their dialogue is missing as is the final shot.


GERMAN CAROL MEDIA DVD:
Cut. Missing the ending completely. Ends with sharpshooter lying on the ground.




Verdict



CANADIAN UVI:
Longest and most complete version of the film. Presumably uncut. Marred by it's full screen presentation.


ITALIAN TV MASTER:
Widescreen. Longer than German print but most severely cut for violence.


GERMAN CAROL MEDIA DVD:
Widescreen. Best looking print by miles. Missing some dialogue and non-action scenes as well as trims to some of the more violent scenes.
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Re: Gangsters '70 (Mino Guerrini, 1968)
« Reply #26 on: 04 Aug 2013 - 11:34 »

Thanks a lot, Luca Canali... can you post here durations of all three versions, please?
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Re: Gangsters '70 (Mino Guerrini, 1968)
« Reply #27 on: 04 Aug 2013 - 15:02 »

Thanks a lot, Luca Canali... can you post here durations of all three versions, please?


No problem, Renato.


Canada UVI VHS ------------- 1:41:19 (NTSC)
Italian TV master ------------ 1:34:00 (PAL)
German Carol Media DVD -- 1:29:02 (PAL)

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Re: Gangsters '70 (Mino Guerrini, 1968)
« Reply #28 on: 11 Feb 2021 - 20:50 »

German label Forgotten Film Entertainment will release the film on Blu-Ray next month (March 19).



Sadly, this release will not be English friendly (Italian and German audio, German subtitles), but the screencaps available look rather good. And there's even some special features, including a couple of audio commentaries.

More details (and numerous screencaps) available at their website:

https://www.forgotten-film-entertainment.de/filme/gangster-sterben-zweimal
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Re: Gangsters '70 (Mino Guerrini, 1968)
« Reply #29 on: 09 Jun 2021 - 20:07 »

I picked this up, great release - as well as their Blu release of Escalation, 1968. Pity no English option but grabbed it anyway in case it's the only HD release we will ever see of it.
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