Jay Slater: As director, were you pleased with Monster Shark?
Lamberto Bava: The script had already been written and delivered, written by my good friend Luigi Cozzi. Using the same film crew as Blastfighter, Luciano Martino said that he had another movie that he would like me to direct. I have to say that I didn’t like the script, and out of respect to Cozzi, I asked Martino if it would be possible for me to rewrite parts of the script. When I was doing my research, I asked Martino if we could not see the monster for the first half of the movie as it would be seen as the killer, as it’s not a good idea to show the villain too early in a thriller. And then I saw the creature creation that was designed by the special effects team (led by Ovidio Taito) which had already been bought by the producers – it was horrible as it looked fake! It was too big and had no movement to it whatsoever, so I asked the effects team if they could make some much necessary adjustments. The main change was about its conception, because in the original screenplay, we see the monster shark in the first shot; personally, if that happened, the film would have been finished. In my version, the monster had to only appear at the very end, and till then, the audience must have a mental picture of what the creature looked like. I have to say that out of all my films, Monster Shark is my least favourite but I had such a great time making it in Florida and the Miami sea aquarium. It really wasn’t about making a movie but enjoying a great holiday! (laughs). I found it to be a very friendly film to work on, even in the secret American navy base in Key West: the government officials even gave us the passwords to enter the base. We could shoot scenes next to their top-secret equipment and they didn’t care – it was incredible! I did have a falling out with the director of photography (Giancarlo Ferrando) when we shooting in the aquarium, a wonderful place to shoot as it were full of fish and amazing colours. Ferrando refused to use special lamps for the background shots so that all the fish could not be seen when the film was processed; the footage would have looked wonderful! I wasn’t too happy with him.
Jay Slater: With regards to Dèmoni/Demons and the scene where a helicopter crashes through the ceiling of the cinema, what is your interpretation of what happened?
Lamberto Bava: Why? I liked the idea. It was also a good excuse to implement an expensive special effect of the helicopter crashing to the ground as well as a social metaphor in that complex technical machines mean nothing in a world gone back to its primitive roots, hence the invasion of the demons.
Jay Slater: That’s interesting as I have interviewed the lovely black actress Geretta Geretta who played “Rosemary†in the movie. She claimed that the scene is a homage to George Romero’s Dawn of the Dead and its final scene where Ken Foree and Gaylen Ross escape from the zombies in a helicopter, but run out of fuel, hence crashing into the cinema as seen in Demons.
Lamberto Bava: Falso, falso, falso! I really don’t think so. We needed a solution to make the film end with a strong finale. For me, it was God who sent the helicopter to help our hero and heroine when they are surrounded by demons. We worked on the script for a long time: four months with four screenwriters. Everything that happened in the movie was precise and well thought-out and researched. When it came to the monsters, Dario Argento gave me maximum liberty to go as far I wanted to with their appearance and actions. Dario expects a lot from everyone but he also gives a lot, too. When you work with Dario you have to sweat blood and tears (laughs).
Jay Slater: With regards to Dèmoni 2/Demons 2, it would appear that both films are barely related to each other: was this an intentional decision on your part?
Lamberto Bava: Producers Dario Argento and Ferdinando Caputo were far more relaxed with the second movie due to the first doing so well and we had a lot more money to play with. Compared to the first, Demons 2 is a totally different film. Demons was very theatrical in content with its actors screaming all the time. I was way too brutal to them during the making of the movie; on set, I would send them running up and down a staircase to have them breathless before shooting. So when we shot an energetic scene and I wanted them to look exhausted, they were actually panting and out of breath! Both movies are like video clips and music is very important. And I refused to do static camera shots: I always went for dolly shots where possible… I wanted Demons to move fast! Also, Demons was the first ever film in Italy to be processed in Dolby Stereo. For the first time, when the music was not screaming, there would be brief interludes of silence, but in the background, there would were sounds of dripping water and other ambience to create atmosphere and anxiety. And I am also proud to have extended the plot from Demons from where the cinema was the birthplace of evil, to the sequel where the monsters used the medium of television as their portal to invade our world.
Jay Slater: I very much enjoyed your “Middle Earth†Fantaghirò adventures that interestingly predate the Peter Jackson The Lord of the Ring movies. Fantaghirò/Cave of the Golden Rose with the beautiful Alessandra Martines is great fun as is Desideria e l’anello del drago/The Dragon Ring. With regards to the latter, what was it like to work with Franco Nero?
Lamberto Bava: Nero is a BIG actor: one of the most important Italian film actors ever. When I first met Franco for coffee, he told me that he had read the script and loved it. However, he didn’t want to play the small part of a father, he must be the lead, the Dragon King. Franco Nero is someone who loves and lives cinema. When he wasn’t acting in front of the camera, he would sit back and watch the film crew go to work. Franco lives and breathes cinema. He loves it!
Jay Slater: It has to be said, your films often star very attractive young women such as Anna Falchi in The Dragon Ring and Nicoletta Elmi in Demons as the red-haired usherette, a pencil-figured Siren that oozes sex appeal. Is this a conscious decision? A perk of the job to be the man who decides as to what lovely woman will star in your movie?
Lamberto Bava: Yes, yes, of course! (laughs). But seriously, not really. Elmi was a bambino when she first appeared in Italian horror movies – from Argento’s Profondo rosso/Deep Red to my father’s Reazione a catena/A Bay of Blood where she played the part of a very naughty girl! (Lamberto enjoys a generous sip of Guinness)
Jay Slater: One of your most recent horror films is The Torturer. Judging by the opening credits where naked women are subjected to physical degradation and mutilation, would this be your answer to Eli Roth’s Hostel?
Lamberto Bava: No, not all; it’s all my idea. I really wanted to get to grips with the way to shoot movies digitally. For me, The Torturer is a return to the Italian horror films of the early 1980s where there were a lot of emphasis on extreme violence and splatter such as the movies by Lucio Fulci. I see the film as a remake of all those films of the period. That said, perhaps it’s too much…
Jay Slater: So you think you can go too far with the portrayal of explicit violence?
Lamberto Bava: No, no, no, no! You can’t go too far. But for me, the kind of film that I would like to make is Ghost Son: a suspense and thriller movie. It’s a new way of making horror films without giving up the traditional genre elements. It’s a love story that goes on after life and features an international cast. But it’s not a naughty horror. For me, personally, the horror genre had been transformed after I saw The Sixth Sense: it’s a good film. Also, it’s not a naughty film – it doesn’t scare people but is atmospheric, fantastic and gives people hope that there is life after death. I like to think that Ghost Son is like this. But you need a good cast to pull it off. I did have a great cast such as John Hannah, Pete Postlethwaite, Laura Harring and Coralina Cataldi-Tassoni. They’re very good actors. (Lamberto beams with pride, like the cat that got its cream)
Jay Slater: A little birdie tells me that, after the success of the Master of Horror series, we can expect an Italian Masters of Horror.
Lamberto Bava: I am supposed to make one in early 2007. Do you remember my film, La casa con la scala nel buio/A Blade in the Dark? It’s pretty much a remake but set in today’s setting. I am not too sure who are making other episodes, but I have been told that mine is the first in the Italian Masters of Horror series.
Jay Slater: Lamberto Bava is incarcerated on a desert island: rescue is not an option. With only one of his movies for company to watch over and over again till the end of days, what would it be?
Lamberto Bava: No! Never! I never watch my movies again. I never go back to them. All the filmmakers I know would remake the films they made as they are never happy with the results. Giuseppe Tornatore, director of Nuovo cinema Paradiso/Cinema Paradiso, said the same thing. If I were to remake a film of mine six months after it were completed, it would be very different; for instance, just to change a main lead can make such a difference to the overall picture.
Jay Slater: Fair point. But this leaves you with no movies to watch. I shall grant you any three movies to take with you. What will they be?
Lamberto Bava: One would be Blade Runner – for sure, one of the three. When I think about it, that’ll be the only one I’d take!
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Jay Slater: As director, were you pleased with Monster Shark?
Lamberto Bava: The script had already been written and delivered, written by my good friend Luigi Cozzi. Using the same film crew as Blastfighter, Luciano Martino said that he had another movie that he would like me to direct. I have to say that I didn’t like the script, and out of respect to Cozzi, I asked Martino if it would be possible for me to rewrite parts of the script. When I was doing my research, I asked Martino if we could not see the monster for the first half of the movie as it would be seen as the killer, as it’s not a good idea to show the villain too early in a thriller. And then I saw the creature creation that was designed by the special effects team (led by Ovidio Taito) which had already been bought by the producers – it was horrible as it looked fake! It was too big and had no movement to it whatsoever, so I asked the effects team if they could make some much necessary adjustments. The main change was about its conception, because in the original screenplay, we see the monster shark in the first shot; personally, if that happened, the film would have been finished. In my version, the monster had to only appear at the very end, and till then, the audience must have a mental picture of what the creature looked like. I have to say that out of all my films, Monster Shark is my least favourite but I had such a great time making it in Florida and the Miami sea aquarium. It really wasn’t about making a movie but enjoying a great holiday! (laughs). I found it to be a very friendly film to work on, even in the secret American navy base in Key West: the government officials even gave us the passwords to enter the base. We could shoot scenes next to their top-secret equipment and they didn’t care – it was incredible! I did have a falling out with the director of photography (Giancarlo Ferrando) when we shooting in the aquarium, a wonderful place to shoot as it were full of fish and amazing colours. Ferrando refused to use special lamps for the background shots so that all the fish could not be seen when the film was processed; the footage would have looked wonderful! I wasn’t too happy with him.
Jay Slater: With regards to Dèmoni/Demons and the scene where a helicopter crashes through the ceiling of the cinema, what is your interpretation of what happened?
Lamberto Bava: Why? I liked the idea. It was also a good excuse to implement an expensive special effect of the helicopter crashing to the ground as well as a social metaphor in that complex technical machines mean nothing in a world gone back to its primitive roots, hence the invasion of the demons.
Jay Slater: That’s interesting as I have interviewed the lovely black actress Geretta Geretta who played “Rosemary†in the movie. She claimed that the scene is a homage to George Romero’s Dawn of the Dead and its final scene where Ken Foree and Gaylen Ross escape from the zombies in a helicopter, but run out of fuel, hence crashing into the cinema as seen in Demons.
Lamberto Bava: Falso, falso, falso! I really don’t think so. We needed a solution to make the film end with a strong finale. For me, it was God who sent the helicopter to help our hero and heroine when they are surrounded by demons. We worked on the script for a long time: four months with four screenwriters. Everything that happened in the movie was precise and well thought-out and researched. When it came to the monsters, Dario Argento gave me maximum liberty to go as far I wanted to with their appearance and actions. Dario expects a lot from everyone but he also gives a lot, too. When you work with Dario you have to sweat blood and tears (laughs).
Jay Slater: With regards to Dèmoni 2/Demons 2, it would appear that both films are barely related to each other: was this an intentional decision on your part?
Lamberto Bava: Producers Dario Argento and Ferdinando Caputo were far more relaxed with the second movie due to the first doing so well and we had a lot more money to play with. Compared to the first, Demons 2 is a totally different film. Demons was very theatrical in content with its actors screaming all the time. I was way too brutal to them during the making of the movie; on set, I would send them running up and down a staircase to have them breathless before shooting. So when we shot an energetic scene and I wanted them to look exhausted, they were actually panting and out of breath! Both movies are like video clips and music is very important. And I refused to do static camera shots: I always went for dolly shots where possible… I wanted Demons to move fast! Also, Demons was the first ever film in Italy to be processed in Dolby Stereo. For the first time, when the music was not screaming, there would be brief interludes of silence, but in the background, there would were sounds of dripping water and other ambience to create atmosphere and anxiety. And I am also proud to have extended the plot from Demons from where the cinema was the birthplace of evil, to the sequel where the monsters used the medium of television as their portal to invade our world.
Jay Slater: I very much enjoyed your “Middle Earth†Fantaghirò adventures that interestingly predate the Peter Jackson The Lord of the Ring movies. Fantaghirò/Cave of the Golden Rose with the beautiful Alessandra Martines is great fun as is Desideria e l’anello del drago/The Dragon Ring. With regards to the latter, what was it like to work with Franco Nero?
Lamberto Bava: Nero is a BIG actor: one of the most important Italian film actors ever. When I first met Franco for coffee, he told me that he had read the script and loved it. However, he didn’t want to play the small part of a father, he must be the lead, the Dragon King. Franco Nero is someone who loves and lives cinema. When he wasn’t acting in front of the camera, he would sit back and watch the film crew go to work. Franco lives and breathes cinema. He loves it!